Guild Wars 2

I know there is a lot of Trahearne hate out there, but In memory of his heroic deeds and ultimate sacrafice, I want to take a moment to remember our great sylvari for what he was; a hero, a leader, mentor, comrade, and friend.

• was there for us from the moment our mentors died, helping us get back on our feet and pick up the pieces.
• showed us a broader world as we became more than just order members, but leaders of an organization bigger than any one nation or order alone, unifying the world against the dragons.
• co-founder and primary leader of the pact
• strategically led the battle of claw island from his vantage point over the gate.
• consulted in our advice, as to which of his strategies would best help lay Zhaitain low
• trusted in our combat and leadership abilities to lead the pact deeper into orr.
• complemented, thanked, and rewarded us for our efforts and achievements, always letting us know how much he appreciated our friendship and battle prowless.
• in the background of personal story (off-stage if you will) he was responsible for the strategic and tactal advancement of the pact, doing all the planning and nogotiating while leaving the task to pull off his plans up to us.
• cleansed orr
• believed in us without hesitation or second thought, when we revealed the dangers of mordremoth, and immediately gave our campaign into the maguuma jungle full support.
• until the very end, even as lesser sylvari faltered, even as his body was merged with the elder dragon mordremoth itself, kept fighting for us and the pact.
• gave his life to end mordremoth.

Please no negative replies, this forum is filled with endless post bashing Trehearn, let those of us who liked him honour his memory in peace

I think people hate Trahearn due to how he smile at cutscene 24/7.

Point of order, when you specify the thing that you’ll be spoiling in the title, it serves no purpose to add spoiler.

Yeah, thanks a lot for the awesome well-thought-out spoiler title…

the title lol

How can someone be so dense to put the very thing they don’t want to spoil in the title?
Or maybe he’s doing it on purpose?
I mean, seriously..

Thanks for putting the spoiler in the title itself. I haven’t finished the story and you’ve spoiled a pretty big twist for me. Please change your title so that others do not get the spoiled for them.

Thank you.

ill just say thank you for the thread since ive done the story

o7 Marshal Traehearn, it was a fun three years and i hope we get to give you a proper send off in time.

Dude, please change the title. Fortunately I finished the story an hour ago, or else I’d be really angry. Please be considerate to other players.

I love trahearne , but please don’t make your title (Spoiler)and then spoil it ! Make is something suggestive.

Oh yea, I forgot he was in HoT.

The intention was to create an emotional impact, but so few like him that I think it failed entirely, he is no John Snow. If they killed off Taimi, Rytlock or even Canach, that would have been much more effective in provoking the emotional response they obviously desired.

Scarlet down, Thrahearne down, which character the community hates is going to die next?

Thank you for changing the title, OP!

They also put down one of fan favourites Eir Stegalkin. You just dont dispose of character that so many people love. I strongly hope for her come back. There are many ways to do that.

Zabiyaka.2567:

You just dont dispose of character that so many people love.

A good story has emotional impact, a beloved character had to die.

Would Game of Thrones been any good if they never killed off characters people liked?

I would pay gems (like, real money) for the opportunity to help Trahearne on his way toward the ultimate sacrifice. Call me Judas. I’m being positive here, because I really like the way this turned out.

Aedelric.1287:

Zabiyaka.2567:

You just dont dispose of character that so many people love.

A good story has emotional impact, a beloved character had to die.

Would Game of Thrones been any good if they never killed off characters people liked?

I dont know, i stopped reading it after they killed off my favorite character in the first book.

Seera.5916:

Thank you for changing the title, OP!

My apologies to everyone who I’ve spoiled the ending for, that was not my intent. I admit it was a bad choice of words that I should have put more thought into.

However, one does not have to die nessisarily to leave a legacy. They merely have to dissapear, and thus leave things behind; these things becomes their legacy. This could mean anything; from him retiring from the pact, to his falling comatose to the point that even if he survives he won’t be able to return to duty; and thus does not directly mean he dies by any means, even if that is how -in truth- it turns out. As such I viewed my title as a teaser that indicates something happened to trehearn, rather than spoiling the ‘what’. This was my train of thought.

Furthermore, I belive the title should indicate the subject mater as to draw in the interested parties. It’s impossible to write a tittle indicating a character dissapearing without hinting that they dissapear… though once again, I could have used better words to accomplish this.

Dante.1763:

ill just say thank you for the thread since ive done the story

o7 Marshal Traehearn, it was a fun three years and i hope we get to give you a proper send off in time.

I too hope he receives a hero’s send off, a splended ceremony with all the honours befitting the leader of the pact.

It was the only well developed NPC character in the entire game, and it felt like they killed him off because a certain crowd didn’t like him.

GW2 already lacks NPC character depth, it needed more story and character development, not less.

I think the writers succeeded in making him a likable character (a real one with flaws and also a lot of positive traits), so in the end i felt bad for not being able to save him.

That he ordered an airstrike on the jungle seemed odd at first, but if you know that the whole jungle IS Mordremoth then it suddenly makes a lot more sense.

That he “stole your spotlight” as leader of the pact? Nobody would have accepted us players as leader because a) we were a subordinate in one of the orders and b) the other two orders would not accept a member of the third one as leader anyway.

I guess if the trend continues we will really see more characters killed off by a perceived “community hate”. Whatever.

I liked Trahearne from the first moment on. In fact, he’s been my favorite character, and still is. What ANet did to him made me cry. I’m not playing this story ever again.
From the first BWE on I was eager to save him. But in the end, we never had a chance. That’s quite bitter.
Having to finish him myself was even worse than anything had expected.

And talking to the others (Marjory, Rytlock etc) after that scene made me feel even worse. Everyone was like: Yeah we did it! Mordremoth is dead, let’s just be happy and throw a big party. No one lost a singel word about Trahearne and his sacrifice. That’s not fair. :C

I liked him, and yet I expected this to be how it ended to an extent, sacrificing himself to protect everyone.
I really hope the next living story starts with a memorial for all that were lost.

Also, at least Canach mentioned him, growing a newfound respect for Trahearne, realizing now how strong Trahearne’s will was.

Lastly, I don’t think Anet killed him off due to community hate, is was merely coincidence imo, it just makes more sense story-wise, and it just so happened that not everyone liked him.

I would like for our characters to have an epilogue where we get to honor him in-game, along with Eir and all the Pact soldiers who were killed fighting Mordremoth.

My first character was human and I didn’t mind Trehearne but I never got buddy buddy with him like the story suggests. Trehearne is no Tybolt and never will be. That said I still liked him. I thought he was fair and amiable enough.

Then I played a Sylvari and I got to spend a lot more time with Trehearne. I got to learn more about him and I ended up liking him a lot more. My first Sylvari went Priory, so I was companioning with Sylvari after Sylvari which I actually found to be a lot of fun.

I knew this was how it was going to go down the moment he wasn’t right there. I was personally most worried that he’d get Foalained, which I’m not entirely sure would have been worse now. I’m disappointed with how it all went down. He was a nice guy, and he deserved better.

Raap.9065:

It was the only well developed NPC character in the entire game, and it felt like they killed him off because a certain crowd didn’t like him.

GW2 already lacks NPC character depth, it needed more story and character development, not less.

I wouldnt call over 50% of an entire player base “A certain crowd”. You say that in the tone of trying to delegitamize their feelings as a minority, when in fact the opposite is true. Whether or not it is coincidental to how they planned the story out is debatable.. but the fact that alot of people hated him, is not. Also, he was not the only character in the game to be developed. All 3 of the orders had a mentor that was well loved and didnt deserve to die by your standards. all of destinys edge has a good developement compared to trahearne.

I think we should continue his work, and destroy the pale tree!

There’s just no way he wasn’t killed as fan service. That death was completely and utterly unnecessary for the story. Completely.

I would have liked to have seen Trahearne be our ‘best friend’ that accompanies us through the future living world/expansions. The other characters mostly feel distant or like subordinates (ie I’m somewhat friends with Rytlock, but I don’t feel like we’re bros, just two folks with a common goal, or with Marjory we may be friends but first and foremost she’s my subordinate, she talks up to me, calls me boss/commander). Did anyone ever notice that Trahearne is the only character to regularly say “my friend” in reference to you? When the personal story happened, the later steps were essentially you and Trahearne making it up as you go, learning to get through the tough situation, and evolving into a world leader and one of the most famous combatants/commanders in Tyria.

As bad as the personal story was in many ways, I still get chills down my spine hearing this line at the very end of the source of Orr:

“Trahearne: Here, at the end, I am glad that it’s just you and me. We will cleanse Orr together—as we were meant to do.”

Say they do 4-5 expansions, if they had let him live through 4 or so of them and then killed him (after developing his character further, perhaps redeeming him in the eyes of this somewhat jaded community) his death would have been so much more meaningful/impactful. Instead they basically offed him first chance they got with some weird explanation like “lolz mordy corrupted me gotta kill me or he’ll respawn in me, forget the thousands of other corrupt sylvari, minions, or the fact that is in fact the jungle, if you kill me he dies if you don’t he lives lololol”.

Arius.7031:

That death was completely and utterly unnecessary for the story. Completely.

It had a story impact, though. Judging by the community reaction, the death seems to have packed an emotional punch for a lot of people. For many it made the victory bittersweet, which I think was intentional.

Anakita Snakecharm.4360:

Arius.7031:

That death was completely and utterly unnecessary for the story. Completely.

It had a story impact, though. Judging by the community reaction, the death seems to have packed an emotional punch for a lot of people. For many it made the victory bittersweet, which I think was intentional.

And for many it was a “DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD” Kinda moment to…

“Trahearne: Here, at the end, I am glad that it’s just you and me. We will cleanse Orr together—as we were meant to do.”

but funny how the Player ends up doing this solo… trehearne and his cronies do nothing to help that fight other then hemhaw around and let the player make all the decisions…

CorrynnStarr.7942:

“Trahearne: Here, at the end, I am glad that it’s just you and me. We will cleanse Orr together—as we were meant to do.”

but funny how the Player ends up doing this solo… trehearne and his cronies do nothing to help that fight other then hemhaw around and let the player make all the decisions…

I do remember him doing the cleansing ritual while you defend him, if thats nothing then so be it, i call that doing his job.

And after that missions he basically tells you that his mission is done, orr has been cleansed thanks to your help, its up to you to kill Zhaitan.

Also, stay on topic, this is a topic for those of us who wanted to give a send off to Traehearne, not bash him.

CorrynnStarr.7942:

“Trahearne: Here, at the end, I am glad that it’s just you and me. We will cleanse Orr together—as we were meant to do.”

but funny how the Player ends up doing this solo… trehearne and his cronies do nothing to help that fight other then hemhaw around and let the player make all the decisions…

Right, as long as you ignore the part where he is doing the ritual that you don’t know how to do. You’re a glorified body guard. You keep him alive while he does the actual heavy lifting.

You consider him to not be doing anything because he’s not fighting random mobs, but in the context of the story he’s doing something far more important than you are. What you are doing is only important in that it’s allowing him to do the real work.

Dante.1763:

CorrynnStarr.7942:

“Trahearne: Here, at the end, I am glad that it’s just you and me. We will cleanse Orr together—as we were meant to do.”

but funny how the Player ends up doing this solo… trehearne and his cronies do nothing to help that fight other then hemhaw around and let the player make all the decisions…

I do remember him doing the cleansing ritual while you defend him, if thats nothing then so be it, i call that doing his job.

And after that missions he basically tells you that his mission is done, orr has been cleansed thanks to your help, its up to you to kill Zhaitan.

Also, stay on topic, this is a topic for those of us who wanted to give a send off to Traehearne, not bash him.

95% of the responses in this thread are off topic… including yours, you should head your own advice. If you dont like what i said, fine rebutt with your opinion and leave it at that. Or just ignore it and put your praises down into words and move on.

Even during the cleansing ritual, there was no defending him… everything aggros the player and you end up just killing things yourself anyways(which is my point, he doesnt do anything beneficial for you or your party). But to be honest, my comment was meant for a more broad sense of the situation(as in the ENTIRE time he features in YOUR storyline).

Next fact… “his mission was done when orr was cleansed…” Why is he the pact commander if he is gonna stop leading the pact when his personal mission was done? No general in history ever told his subordinates he wasnt going to finish the fight all the way through to the end!! This makes no sense to me logically, why would he stop fighting before the end?

CorrynnStarr.7942:

Dante.1763:

CorrynnStarr.7942:

“Trahearne: Here, at the end, I am glad that it’s just you and me. We will cleanse Orr together—as we were meant to do.”

but funny how the Player ends up doing this solo… trehearne and his cronies do nothing to help that fight other then hemhaw around and let the player make all the decisions…

I do remember him doing the cleansing ritual while you defend him, if thats nothing then so be it, i call that doing his job.

And after that missions he basically tells you that his mission is done, orr has been cleansed thanks to your help, its up to you to kill Zhaitan.

Also, stay on topic, this is a topic for those of us who wanted to give a send off to Traehearne, not bash him.

95% of the responses in this thread are off topic… including yours, you should head your own advice. If you dont like what i said, fine rebutt with your opinion and leave it at that. Or just ignore it and put your praises down into words and move on.

Even during the cleansing ritual, there was no defending him… everything aggros the player and you end up just killing things yourself anyways(which is my point, he doesnt do anything beneficial for you or your party). But to be honest, my comment was meant for a more broad sense of the situation(as in the ENTIRE time he features in YOUR storyline).

Next fact… “his mission was done when orr was cleansed…” Why is he the pact commander if he is gonna stop leading the pact when his personal mission was done? No general in history ever told his subordinates he wasnt going to finish the fight all the way through to the end!! This makes no sense to me logically, why would he stop fighting before the end?

…no actually, in my original post I wrote that this thread was for those of us who wanted to remember the good things about trehearn, why we like him. And requested rather politely that if you do not like him, to simply skip over this thread, there are thousands of other bash treads out there, and what’s more, you can always make a new one. Please don’t come to our funeral gathering and spit on the coffen…

And no, Dante isn’t off topic, the topic is the great things trehearn has done, what we like about him, and our hopes for an in-game funeral, Dante just stated that trehearn did the cleansing while we defended him, a cleansing is a feat, and as listing his feats is part of the topic, he is on topic. …and yes, the mobs attack player character mechanically, but story wise they were after treahearn. Game play mechanics and story arnt the same thing, don’t confuse them.

Also, it has been noted from the very first time that we met trehearn, that he is more a scholar than a warrior, so yes, he follows us quite often on our forlays, but always he plays the strategic/scientific/special magic rolls while leaving the brute of combat to us. This is hard to portray properly in a combat video game, as it’s hard to depict him leading/strategising while we are fighting, and were this a novel instead, I feel trehearns character would stand out a lot better.

I think one of the best examples of his leadership was claw island, where he chose the highest vantage point to strategically lead the battle. Together we won it, through his words and our steel.

You also need to note that a lot of what he does is done off stage, as it would be boring, and would slow the story to a grueling pace if we had to sit in strategy meeting after meeting. However we do know they happen, as our character often arrives in Fort trenity to speak with trehearn right after he finished a meeting.

Furthermore, you’re taking trehearn words out of context, he means the killing is up to you, as you are the warrior, and the killing of zhaitain in itself was your main goal as cleansing orr was his. That in no way means he’s stepping down, or isn’t going to help. But a general really shouldn’t be on the battlefield in the first place, he played his roll, now it’s your turn. That does not however mean that he doesn’t help direct the pact fleet back from Fort trenity.

CorrynnStarr.7942:

Raap.9065:

It was the only well developed NPC character in the entire game, and it felt like they killed him off because a certain crowd didn’t like him.

GW2 already lacks NPC character depth, it needed more story and character development, not less.

I wouldnt call over 50% of an entire player base “A certain crowd”. You say that in the tone of trying to delegitamize their feelings as a minority, when in fact the opposite is true. Whether or not it is coincidental to how they planned the story out is debatable.. but the fact that alot of people hated him, is not. Also, he was not the only character in the game to be developed. All 3 of the orders had a mentor that was well loved and didnt deserve to die by your standards. all of destinys edge has a good developement compared to trahearne.

50%… nice, where did you get that from, a poll, a study, ANet… I admit there is a lot of players that hate treahearn, but there’s also a lot that were okay with him, liked him, or even loved him. And others still who couldn’t care less either way. However I don’t attempt to make up my own baseless statistics… the majority on the forums appears to be negative against trehearn, but is that a true majority, or just a very vocal minority? There’s no real way to know.

CorrynnStarr.7942:

Raap.9065:

It was the only well developed NPC character in the entire game, and it felt like they killed him off because a certain crowd didn’t like him.

GW2 already lacks NPC character depth, it needed more story and character development, not less.

I wouldnt call over 50% of an entire player base “A certain crowd”. You say that in the tone of trying to delegitamize their feelings as a minority, when in fact the opposite is true. Whether or not it is coincidental to how they planned the story out is debatable.. but the fact that alot of people hated him, is not. Also, he was not the only character in the game to be developed. All 3 of the orders had a mentor that was well loved and didnt deserve to die by your standards. all of destinys edge has a good developement compared to trahearne.

I would absolutely “delegitimize” their feelings, because not a single Trehearne hater has ever had a legitimate claim as to why they hate him. They all hate him for the same handful of reasons, all of which are completely false. The only half way true reason is because of poor voice acting, which is a valid reason not to like a character but not to actively dislike one, and certainly not to hate one. Also they rerecorded those lines, significantly improving them.

CorrynnStarr.7942:

Even during the cleansing ritual, there was no defending him… everything aggros the player and you end up just killing things yourself anyways(which is my point, he doesnt do anything beneficial for you or your party). But to be honest, my comment was meant for a more broad sense of the situation(as in the ENTIRE time he features in YOUR storyline).

Next fact… “his mission was done when orr was cleansed…” Why is he the pact commander if he is gonna stop leading the pact when his personal mission was done? No general in history ever told his subordinates he wasnt going to finish the fight all the way through to the end!! This makes no sense to me logically, why would he stop fighting before the end?

hey guy!
I’ve found someone who skipped all dialogues in storyline thinking he knows what happened///

1. from the very begginning its said that Trehearn’s Wild Hunt was to cleanse the Orr of dragon corruption – as for example Caithes was to kill Zhaitan

2. he becomes pact commander only because PC suggests so as he was not member of any order “yet respected by them all”

3. cleansing of Orr during Source of Orr personal instance – of course he is not “helpfull” to the fight because if you haven’t noticed (yeah you did not) he was performing cleansing rituals while it was up to you to keep enemies busy
suuuure every scholar out there can in same very moment do some bashing and perform complicated magical rituals….

4. he did not backed up “jus tbefore the end” he finished his wyld hunt, he was drained out of energy after ritual – so he entrusted leading last atack against a dragon to his most trusted commander – tell me – if you’d just finished performing very difficult and energy draining magical ritual – would it be so logical for you to try to lead atack in exhausted state, or loose invasion momentum by waiting for you to come back to the state of being able to command or maybe you’d have chosen your best warrior to lead your armies into the last atack in the moment as you are regaining your strenght?

OtakuModeEngage.8679:

However I don’t attempt to make up my own baseless statistics… the majority on the forums appears to be negative against trehearn, but is that a true majority, or just a very vocal minority? There’s no real way to know.

If people like him, they are keeping well quiet about it. The only thing I can tell from in game and the forums is that a lot of people hate him.

He was the main protagonist of my `personal story´, he took credit for my hard work and presumptuously acted like we were friends when I considered him irritating at best. I had no reason to like him, he was such a boring character too.

Edit – Anyway, Arena Net know people did not like him, which is why he got killed off. The character became a running joke since release.

Aedelric.1287:

OtakuModeEngage.8679:

However I don’t attempt to make up my own baseless statistics… the majority on the forums appears to be negative against trehearn, but is that a true majority, or just a very vocal minority? There’s no real way to know.

If people like him, they are keeping well quiet about it. The only thing I can tell from in game and the forums is that a lot of people hate him.

He was the main protagonist of my `personal story´, he took credit for my hard work and presumptuously acted like we were friends when I considered him irritating at best. I had no reason to like him, he was such a boring character too.

Edit – Anyway, Arena Net know people did not like him, which is why he got killed off. The character became a running joke since release.

Every thread about him has people specifically claiming to like him and even love him. They also have people making the same unfounded claims you are and debunking them, like I will here.

To start, at most only one time in your entire “personal story” are you actually in charge. The first part of your story you’re working for your Destiny’s Edge mentor. In the second part you’re doing something relevant to you. From then on you’re working for someone else.

At no point during the entirety of the Personal Story does he steal credit for anything you did. Nor does anyone else give him credit for anything you did. All credit for your work goes to you, the second in command. It is even Trehearne who places you up that high, since you were ready to be somewhere deep down under your Order leader.

idk why people disliked Trehearne. He did a lot of things you as the MC couldn’t and didn’t just force takeover and steal all the credit like people think. He’s the one who studied Orr his whole life while you knew nothing about it. He’s the one who knew how to use the sword to weaken Zhaitan. And he shared this Info with you and built you an army to back you up, since you were the strongest fighter that could lead it. He makes it very clear that he isn’t a fighter and needs your help and it should be obvious that you need his.

He was the typical JRPG Zhuge Liang strategist who helps you through the game and does all the planning and organization for everything behind the scenes and brings the important decisions to you, and of course lets you lead all the fights as the commander of the army.

In the end he showed how much of a natural he was at slaying Dragons by revealing Mordremoth’s weakness. Sad that he couldn’t be saved. :[

Now they just need to add a similar face to his to makeover kit like they did with Tybalt, cuz that’s another awesome thing about him. :s

I’m rather glad stick-boy bought the farm. That monotone posh English accent was like nails on a chalkboard. What an annoying character!

Aedelric.1287:

OtakuModeEngage.8679:

However I don’t attempt to make up my own baseless statistics… the majority on the forums appears to be negative against trehearn, but is that a true majority, or just a very vocal minority? There’s no real way to know.

If people like him, they are keeping well quiet about it. The only thing I can tell from in game and the forums is that a lot of people hate him.

He was the main protagonist of my `personal story´, he took credit for my hard work and presumptuously acted like we were friends when I considered him irritating at best. I had no reason to like him, he was such a boring character too.

Edit – Anyway, Arena Net know people did not like him, which is why he got killed off. The character became a running joke since release.

first, every thread I’ve ever seen where players were bashing treahearn, I’ve stood up for him, and I’m far from the only one.

Second, he has never taken credit for our actions and achievdments, far from, I can’t count how many times he’s said things like ‘I couldn’t have done it without you’, ’I’m glad we’re here together at the end,’ ’you’ve proven yourself an invaluable asset’, and ‘thanks friend’… the list goes on. He even names you second in command… as far as honours and recognition go, it doesn’t get much better than that.

Cuchullain.3104:

I’m rather glad stick-boy bought the farm. That monotone posh English accent was like nails on a chalkboard. What an annoying character!

Voice acting isn’t a character trait, it’s a character portrayal… therefor what you hate is how treahearn was portrayed by ANet, not Treahearn himself. Thats a horrible thing to hold against a character as its not his fualt. Furthermore, if you meet someone in real life with a bad accent, will you hate them for that alone??? That’s horribly shallow. His personality and deeds are what we like him for, and that has nothing to do with his voice. At any rate, replay personal story, his lines were vastly improved and as such, are much more likable now.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MarySue

^Covers the Veggie wrap in question.

I liked the way he said Clawr Island.

I also realised just now that he’s the first ever Reaper. I keep forgetting he was a necromancer but Caladbolg was a greatsword after all.

Lord Trejgon.2809:

CorrynnStarr.7942:

Even during the cleansing ritual, there was no defending him… everything aggros the player and you end up just killing things yourself anyways(which is my point, he doesnt do anything beneficial for you or your party). But to be honest, my comment was meant for a more broad sense of the situation(as in the ENTIRE time he features in YOUR storyline).

Next fact… “his mission was done when orr was cleansed…” Why is he the pact commander if he is gonna stop leading the pact when his personal mission was done? No general in history ever told his subordinates he wasnt going to finish the fight all the way through to the end!! This makes no sense to me logically, why would he stop fighting before the end?

hey guy!
I’ve found someone who skipped all dialogues in storyline thinking he knows what happened///

1. from the very begginning its said that Trehearn’s Wild Hunt was to cleanse the Orr of dragon corruption – as for example Caithes was to kill Zhaitan

2. he becomes pact commander only because PC suggests so as he was not member of any order “yet respected by them all”

3. cleansing of Orr during Source of Orr personal instance – of course he is not “helpfull” to the fight because if you haven’t noticed (yeah you did not) he was performing cleansing rituals while it was up to you to keep enemies busy
suuuure every scholar out there can in same very moment do some bashing and perform complicated magical rituals….

4. he did not backed up “jus tbefore the end” he finished his wyld hunt, he was drained out of energy after ritual – so he entrusted leading last atack against a dragon to his most trusted commander – tell me – if you’d just finished performing very difficult and energy draining magical ritual – would it be so logical for you to try to lead atack in exhausted state, or loose invasion momentum by waiting for you to come back to the state of being able to command or maybe you’d have chosen your best warrior to lead your armies into the last atack in the moment as you are regaining your strenght?

yet another person making assumptions about me… I do know the story Guy!

here goes:

1. from the very beggining trehearne replaced a dear NPC character to me, That had just died, my mentor and I was thrust into HIS story of a wyld hunt, which i deduced from the conversation from the pale tree the first time we met…

2. I had no choice in naming him as the pact commander (and I surely wouldnt have given an ACTUAL choice about it) It was hardscripted for me to do so thus taking away any choices I had in the matter entirely.

3. you are partially right, I didnt notice him doing anything because I was too busy killing things that were attacking me… (even if its scripted for him to do the cleansing, it is still another instance in which he provides no physical help in the fight at hand. had Anet simply said kill the mobs or protect him from the mobs is irrelevant. he still did nothing in the fight, and even in previous instances his “fighting” role was more like me running back and forth either rezzing him or unsticking him from the surrounding twigs he couldnt seem to walk over.) Also I think mesmers necros and eles can perform things and fight as well.. scholar has nothing to do with it.

4. i understand your view here, but my comment on that was a rebuttal of the other guys statement that made it look like he was only there to cleanse orr, and that was as far as he was gonna go with it.

Actually my whole point was:

We get it, you dont like Traehearne(you’ve made this very clear in the other thread), You do not however have to repeatedly come into a thread created for the sole purpose of stating a farewell to a character that we enjoyed, and stating what we enjoyed about him. Especially to bash on that character, its rude.

It be like me going into a thread created to express peoples sadness over and to wish Tybalt a farewell , and me bashing on Tybalt(i dont like Tybalt at all, so this is a very valid comparison.), i wouldnt do that because its rude and off topic and contributes nothing but trolling people to get them upset, and the topic locked.

Edit: it also be like going into this thread https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/Eir-s-Story-Spoilers/first#post5729337 And saying “Good, shes dead, i didnt like her and she was useless”. Again, not needed at all and rude.

His story was basically over already.

Sylvari are dragon minions who basically prepare the world for the awakening of Mordremoth. Although part of a collective, They have individual jobs to do, individual programming called a dream. Trahearne’s job was to take out Zhaitan.

Once Zhaitan is gone, what’s the point of Trahearne? He did his job, he fufilled his reason for existence. All that was left for him to do was to retire.

Mackanstein.2503:

I liked the way he said Clawr Island.

I also realised just now that he’s the first ever Reaper. I keep forgetting he was a necromancer but Caladbolg was a greatsword after all.

Caladbolg isn’t a greatsword, it’s a bundle like the Ice bow or Fiery Greatsword.

In the early personal story, any sylvari is capable of using it regardless of class during the personal story steps in which they have possession of it.

Eponet.4829:

Mackanstein.2503:

I liked the way he said Clawr Island.

I also realised just now that he’s the first ever Reaper. I keep forgetting he was a necromancer but Caladbolg was a greatsword after all.

Caladbolg isn’t a greatsword, it’s a bundle like the Ice bow or Fiery Greatsword.

In the early personal story, any sylvari is capable of using it regardless of class during the personal story steps in which they have possession of it.

No… given gw2 terms/lore, it’s shape and size makes it a greatsword, even if it was temporarily available for use as a bundel, it was a ‘greatsword bundel’. Ever since players first met treahearn and saw him, a necro, using a greatsword, players have begged for necro to be able to weird greatswords, and thats why when they made the first elite specialization for necros, it featured greatswords as the new weapon…