Starting with HoT [my feedback]

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Posted by: twopointzero.8761

twopointzero.8761

Hello everyone,

I started playing with GW2: HoT, it feels for me like I missed the entire previous story.
Well I like the HoT story, but I don’t wanna miss out the main. Besides the lv80 character, I started with an alternative character just for the story.
When I started I had a little problem what to do in Shiverpeaks. It toke me a while, before I knew that I had to follow the HoT storyline, to gain mastery points(“My bad ofc.”). When I gain stuff and materials, I hit another problem. There are no Crafting places and it is also a problem that you miss the first crafting lvls to craft with these materials. When my bags are getting full and I got to know the “Deposit crafting materials into bank” option. I still had the problem where to bank the stuff and I have to much crafting materials with a to high crafting lvl, so I have to store those in the bank aswell.

I do like the game and well, maybe a tip for the next update, considering that there are coming new players. Maybe I will start a small guide"what to do with HoT, if your new."
Well I can’t imagine that I’m the only one who had such a problems. I felt a bit of stupid. Thanks to the Guild[NLT] I joined, I got to know more of the game. They are a huge help and still are.

Greetings,
2.0

P.S. Sorry if I made a mistake in spelling, your welcome to correct me…
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Server: EU – Far Shiverpeaks / “Blacktide”
Warrior: Oak Of Hearts (lv80 ~mastery 6)
Revenant: Demon Of Thorns (lv ~12)
Date: 12/09/2016

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Posted by: LouWolfskin.3492

LouWolfskin.3492

Crafting Stations can be found in any of the major cities and quite a few outposts.

Also you should get a basic tutorial with pretty much every levelup informing you about Hearts, basic combat, skill point challenges and so on.

(edited by LouWolfskin.3492)

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

If you used the L80 Boost and went directly to Heart of Thorns maps, it is not surprising you would be confused on how to play. Doing so skips the entire tutorial which gives much needed information about the game.

You might find it more informative, and less confusing, to level up your other character(s) naturally in Core Tyria. Also, the Wiki (accessed via the link above, or in-game by typing /Wiki [topic of choice] in chat) is a great resource for all things Guild Wars 2.

Welcome to Tyria, and good luck.

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Posted by: Vayne.8563

Vayne.8563

As with all MMO expansions, the new content is an expansion, that is an extension of what has already come before. Jumping into the new stuff without going through the old stuff is a bit like studying algebra without having learned mathematics.

The idea of a level 80 boost is not meant for a new player, so much as an old player who has already been through the process.

No one should be playing HoT content without first having learned how to play core content.

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Posted by: twopointzero.8761

twopointzero.8761

Crafting Stations can be found in any of the major cities and quite a few outposts. Also you should get a basic tutorial with pretty much every levelup informing you about Hearts, basic combat, skill point challenges and so on.

For HoT maps I didn’t find any and I didn’t have the waypoints yet. You recommend any of these Guides your talking about for new-HoT-players.

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Posted by: twopointzero.8761

twopointzero.8761

If you used the L80 Boost and went directly to Heart of Thorns maps, it is not surprising you would be confused on how to play. Doing so skips the entire tutorial which gives much needed information about the game.

You might find it more informative, and less confusing, to level up your other character(s) naturally in Core Tyria. Also, the Wiki (accessed via the link above, or in-game by typing /Wiki [topic of choice] in chat) is a great resource for all things Guild Wars 2.

Welcome to Tyria, and good luck.

I mainly started this topic, as a warning to new players. That they don’t make the same mistake as I did.

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Posted by: twopointzero.8761

twopointzero.8761

As with all MMO expansions, the new content is an expansion, that is an extension of what has already come before. Jumping into the new stuff without going through the old stuff is a bit like studying algebra without having learned mathematics.

The idea of a level 80 boost is not meant for a new player, so much as an old player who has already been through the process.

No one should be playing HoT content without first having learned how to play core content.

Hmmm, I partially agree with you. I think the lvl80 boost is meant for new players who want to experience more content, then just the free-to-play content. Otherwise people wouldn’t buy HoT, only if they had all the other expansions. So a lvl80-boots would be otherwise just be ridiculous wich is probably your entire opinion.

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Posted by: LouWolfskin.3492

LouWolfskin.3492

Crafting Stations can be found in any of the major cities and quite a few outposts. Also you should get a basic tutorial with pretty much every levelup informing you about Hearts, basic combat, skill point challenges and so on.

For HoT maps I didn’t find any and I didn’t have the waypoints yet. You recommend any of these Guides your talking about for new-HoT-players.

Not talking about specific guides.
When you start a new character you get a step-by-step tutorial from the game.

Every level up gets you new Information and from what i remember really everything is talked about.

The HoT-Maps themselves, as in Verdant Brink, Auric Basin, Tangled Depths and Dragon stand don’t have crafting stations, because it wouldn’t make sense lorewise to put them in a newly discovered warzone.

But Divinity’s Reach, Rata Sum, The Grove, Hoelbrak as well as Lion’s Arch and the Black Citadel are all major cities with their own crafting areas.

Every starter area: Wayfarers Rest, Metrica Province, Queensdale and so on has a crafting area as well.
Also some higher areas in the core game have These.

At almost all of them NPC’s try to talk to you about the benefits of crafting and so on, waving at you, hollering…
It should be hard to miss once you reach them.

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Posted by: twopointzero.8761

twopointzero.8761

Crafting Stations can be found in any of the major cities and quite a few outposts. Also you should get a basic tutorial with pretty much every levelup informing you about Hearts, basic combat, skill point challenges and so on.

For HoT maps I didn’t find any and I didn’t have the waypoints yet. You recommend any of these Guides your talking about for new-HoT-players.

The HoT-Maps themselves, as in Verdant Brink, Auric Basin, Tangled Depths and Dragon stand don’t have crafting stations, because it wouldn’t make sense lorewise to put them in a newly discovered warzone.

But Divinity’s Reach, Rata Sum, The Grove, Hoelbrak as well as Lion’s Arch and the Black Citadel are all major cities with their own crafting areas.

Every starter area: Wayfarers Rest, Metrica Province, Queensdale and so on has a crafting area as well.
Also some higher areas in the core game have These.

At almost all of them NPC’s try to talk to you about the benefits of crafting and so on, waving at you, hollering…
It should be hard to miss once you reach them.

You missed my point, I made the mistake to lvl80-boost right away… But then I would be missing the masterys…..

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Posted by: LouWolfskin.3492

LouWolfskin.3492

Crafting Stations can be found in any of the major cities and quite a few outposts. Also you should get a basic tutorial with pretty much every levelup informing you about Hearts, basic combat, skill point challenges and so on.

For HoT maps I didn’t find any and I didn’t have the waypoints yet. You recommend any of these Guides your talking about for new-HoT-players.

The HoT-Maps themselves, as in Verdant Brink, Auric Basin, Tangled Depths and Dragon stand don’t have crafting stations, because it wouldn’t make sense lorewise to put them in a newly discovered warzone.

But Divinity’s Reach, Rata Sum, The Grove, Hoelbrak as well as Lion’s Arch and the Black Citadel are all major cities with their own crafting areas.

Every starter area: Wayfarers Rest, Metrica Province, Queensdale and so on has a crafting area as well.
Also some higher areas in the core game have These.

At almost all of them NPC’s try to talk to you about the benefits of crafting and so on, waving at you, hollering…
It should be hard to miss once you reach them.

You missed my point, I made the mistake to lvl80-boost right away… But then I would be missing the masterys…..

You wouldn’t miss the masteries anyway since you can get them whenever, at least i highly doubt that they will remove the HoT Areas in the future.

Also, there are masteries for core tyria too

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Posted by: twopointzero.8761

twopointzero.8761

Crafting Stations can be found in any of the major cities and quite a few outposts. Also you should get a basic tutorial with pretty much every levelup informing you about Hearts, basic combat, skill point challenges and so on.

For HoT maps I didn’t find any and I didn’t have the waypoints yet. You recommend any of these Guides your talking about for new-HoT-players.

The HoT-Maps themselves, as in Verdant Brink, Auric Basin, Tangled Depths and Dragon stand don’t have crafting stations, because it wouldn’t make sense lorewise to put them in a newly discovered warzone.

But Divinity’s Reach, Rata Sum, The Grove, Hoelbrak as well as Lion’s Arch and the Black Citadel are all major cities with their own crafting areas.

Every starter area: Wayfarers Rest, Metrica Province, Queensdale and so on has a crafting area as well.
Also some higher areas in the core game have These.

At almost all of them NPC’s try to talk to you about the benefits of crafting and so on, waving at you, hollering…
It should be hard to miss once you reach them.

You missed my point, I made the mistake to lvl80-boost right away… But then I would be missing the masterys…..

You wouldn’t miss the masteries anyway since you can get them whenever, at least i highly doubt that they will remove the HoT Areas in the future.

Also, there are masteries for core tyria too

The core tyria masterys is what I will be heading to in far future :/ grrrrr…. feeling like a late blossom…

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Posted by: Vayne.8563

Vayne.8563

As with all MMO expansions, the new content is an expansion, that is an extension of what has already come before. Jumping into the new stuff without going through the old stuff is a bit like studying algebra without having learned mathematics.

The idea of a level 80 boost is not meant for a new player, so much as an old player who has already been through the process.

No one should be playing HoT content without first having learned how to play core content.

Hmmm, I partially agree with you. I think the lvl80 boost is meant for new players who want to experience more content, then just the free-to-play content. Otherwise people wouldn’t buy HoT, only if they had all the other expansions. So a lvl80-boots would be otherwise just be ridiculous wich is probably your entire opinion.

Actually level 80 boosts are there to compete with games that offer them, having nothing to do with who should use them.

The argument should go something like this. I haven’t experienced any of the content before 80 and I don’t know how to play the game. All the content is new contnt to me, so I might save the level 80 boost for a second character once I actually learn to play the game. That’s how I’d think about it.

But there are people playign the game who want instant gratification. They want to run before they walk. They think they’re better at learning than they are. I’m smart, I’ll pick it up. I’ve played lots of MMOs.

So they boost because they have no patience, maybe because in other MMOs leveling was just crap and everyone just played to get through it, and they not only have no waypoints to get anywhere, because they didn’t run through the zones, but they have no experience of how to play or knowledge of the world or lore. They’re essentially starting a game at the end and hoping to just muddle through with what they know.

Leveling in MMOs is generally just one long training mission anyway. You skip that at your own risk.

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Posted by: twopointzero.8761

twopointzero.8761

As with all MMO expansions, the new content is an expansion, that is an extension of what has already come before. Jumping into the new stuff without going through the old stuff is a bit like studying algebra without having learned mathematics.

The idea of a level 80 boost is not meant for a new player, so much as an old player who has already been through the process.

No one should be playing HoT content without first having learned how to play core content.

Hmmm, I partially agree with you. I think the lvl80 boost is meant for new players who want to experience more content, then just the free-to-play content. Otherwise people wouldn’t buy HoT, only if they had all the other expansions. So a lvl80-boots would be otherwise just be ridiculous wich is probably your entire opinion.

Actually level 80 boosts are there to compete with games that offer them, having nothing to do with who should use them.

The argument should go something like this. I haven’t experienced any of the content before 80 and I don’t know how to play the game. All the content is new contnt to me, so I might save the level 80 boost for a second character once I actually learn to play the game. That’s how I’d think about it.

But there are people playign the game who want instant gratification. They want to run before they walk. They think they’re better at learning than they are. I’m smart, I’ll pick it up. I’ve played lots of MMOs.

So they boost because they have no patience, maybe because in other MMOs leveling was just crap and everyone just played to get through it, and they not only have no waypoints to get anywhere, because they didn’t run through the zones, but they have no experience of how to play or knowledge of the world or lore. They’re essentially starting a game at the end and hoping to just muddle through with what they know.

Leveling in MMOs is generally just one long training mission anyway. You skip that at your own risk.

Nah, not entirly true… Like I said before, I didn’t thought it through….

BTW, had 2 other problems(“2 of the same”) yesterday. I was doing a raid and I got kicked because the server was to full, I missed out the final boss of that raid and couldn’t get back in. It felt like a waste of time in the end.

Secondly, I started a HoT mission and again I was at the final Boss. Wich had low bar health left… And F***!!!! I had an error… When I relogged, I have to do the entire story all over again. It felt really annoying and I rage quitted, wich is normally not my style, but it just worked so discouraging to me…

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Posted by: Lecari.7310

Lecari.7310

I’m still utterly confused by how to unlock masteries – and I’ve leveled my level 80 character up naturally. I don’t understand what I’m meant to do or where to go – I have 8 Tyria masteries but they are locked. I don’t think it’s been very well explained at all.

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Posted by: Vayne.8563

Vayne.8563

I’m still utterly confused by how to unlock masteries – and I’ve leveled my level 80 character up naturally. I don’t understand what I’m meant to do or where to go – I have 8 Tyria masteries but they are locked. I don’t think it’s been very well explained at all.

You’re right. It’s not well explained at all. 100% True.

In order to unlock masteries, you need to do the first two stories in Heart of Thorns. Go to your hero panel, the fourth icon down in the story journal. Click on it and you’ll see options for different stories. You should probably do Scarlet’s War first, as it’s a recap of Living Story Season 1 and it takes about five minutes. Then click on Heart of Thorns and click start story.

When you do the Prologue and the first story instance, it unlocks masteries on the account.

There are two types of masteries, those from the core game and those from the hot game. Mastery points and mastery experience are completely separate. In other words, you can’t level core Tyria masteries in HoT and vice versa.

At any rate, you level masteries by leveling the skill bar, just like when you were trying to get to 80. The difference is, when the skill bar is full you need mastery points to spend.

The first mastery in any line only requires one skill point but as you get further in the line it requires more. Mastery points are generally gotten by doing achievements. In HoT you also have strong boxes (which are achievements anyway) and communes in the world. In core Tyria it’s all achievements.

The reason you have mastery points already is that some of the achievements you’ve done already award mastery points and you’ve received them retroactively.

Hope this helps.

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Posted by: twopointzero.8761

twopointzero.8761

I’m still utterly confused by how to unlock masteries – and I’ve leveled my level 80 character up naturally. I don’t understand what I’m meant to do or where to go – I have 8 Tyria masteries but they are locked. I don’t think it’s been very well explained at all.

You’re right. It’s not well explained at all. 100% True.

In order to unlock masteries, you need to do the first two stories in Heart of Thorns. Go to your hero panel, the fourth icon down in the story journal. Click on it and you’ll see options for different stories. You should probably do Scarlet’s War first, as it’s a recap of Living Story Season 1 and it takes about five minutes. Then click on Heart of Thorns and click start story.

When you do the Prologue and the first story instance, it unlocks masteries on the account.

There are two types of masteries, those from the core game and those from the hot game. Mastery points and mastery experience are completely separate. In other words, you can’t level core Tyria masteries in HoT and vice versa.

At any rate, you level masteries by leveling the skill bar, just like when you were trying to get to 80. The difference is, when the skill bar is full you need mastery points to spend.

The first mastery in any line only requires one skill point but as you get further in the line it requires more. Mastery points are generally gotten by doing achievements. In HoT you also have strong boxes (which are achievements anyway) and communes in the world. In core Tyria it’s all achievements.

The reason you have mastery points already is that some of the achievements you’ve done already award mastery points and you’ve received them retroactively.

Hope this helps.

That’s a good explanation, if I had known it just a little sooner. It would have spared me some time… Still hard to find decent guides for HoT.. Maybe I’m a terrible searcher in that part…

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Posted by: Vayne.8563

Vayne.8563

I’m still utterly confused by how to unlock masteries – and I’ve leveled my level 80 character up naturally. I don’t understand what I’m meant to do or where to go – I have 8 Tyria masteries but they are locked. I don’t think it’s been very well explained at all.

You’re right. It’s not well explained at all. 100% True.

In order to unlock masteries, you need to do the first two stories in Heart of Thorns. Go to your hero panel, the fourth icon down in the story journal. Click on it and you’ll see options for different stories. You should probably do Scarlet’s War first, as it’s a recap of Living Story Season 1 and it takes about five minutes. Then click on Heart of Thorns and click start story.

When you do the Prologue and the first story instance, it unlocks masteries on the account.

There are two types of masteries, those from the core game and those from the hot game. Mastery points and mastery experience are completely separate. In other words, you can’t level core Tyria masteries in HoT and vice versa.

At any rate, you level masteries by leveling the skill bar, just like when you were trying to get to 80. The difference is, when the skill bar is full you need mastery points to spend.

The first mastery in any line only requires one skill point but as you get further in the line it requires more. Mastery points are generally gotten by doing achievements. In HoT you also have strong boxes (which are achievements anyway) and communes in the world. In core Tyria it’s all achievements.

The reason you have mastery points already is that some of the achievements you’ve done already award mastery points and you’ve received them retroactively.

Hope this helps.

That’s a good explanation, if I had known it just a little sooner. It would have spared me some time… Still hard to find decent guides for HoT.. Maybe I’m a terrible searcher in that part…

I give HoT tours/explanations in game quite frequently. If you’re on a US server, talk to me in game. I’ll be happy to explain the logic behind the zones. HoT is a lot more than just go here and do this. There’s a lot going on. Understanding the underlying design principles just makes the zones a lot more fun.

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Posted by: twopointzero.8761

twopointzero.8761

I give HoT tours/explanations in game quite frequently. If you’re on a US server, talk to me in game. I’ll be happy to explain the logic behind the zones. HoT is a lot more than just go here and do this. There’s a lot going on. Understanding the underlying design principles just makes the zones a lot more fun.

Unfortunately, I’m playing on the European servers. I just finished the HoT story line.

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