Guild Wars 2

In Guild Wars 1 nearly all armor was profession specific. It made sense because you could only play as a human, so there needed to be ways to be able to distinguish and all that.
In Guild Wars 2, you get 3 armor classes. No matter what profession wears the armor, it’ll appear the same, giving all rangers, engineers and thieves the same, exact look. I don’t particularly like it, but that’s how it is.

What I’d like to see is a few sets of armor per profession that are profession and specialization specific, very similar in function and stats to race specific armor. People could wear the armor as a skin (or just wear the armor) as a show of pride in their profession, and it also helps distinguish a mesmer from a necromancer.

What does anybody else think?
Any ideas to build on this one?

well we’ve seen profession specific armor in the trailer for HoT… remember the druid?

https://nerdybookahs.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/gw2_heart-of-thorns_ranger_druid_044.jpg

Can I wear Ranger armor on my thief? Can I wear thief armor on my ranger?

If the answer is no. Then I say NO to your suggestion.

runeblade.7514:

Can I wear Ranger armor on my thief? Can I wear thief armor on my ranger?

If the answer is no. Then I say NO to your suggestion.

Whyever not? We have race-specific armor, and I think that’s wonderful. I wish we had more of it. Class-specific armor would just be another way to make sure your character doesn’t look like every other character out there, especially now that the wardrobe lets classes use each others’ starter gear. (Granted, the wraith mask looks AWESOME on my Mesmer….)

At some point, a little class/race exclusivity adds flavor and makes things unique.

runeblade.7514:

Can I wear Ranger armor on my thief? Can I wear thief armor on my ranger?

If the answer is no. Then I say NO to your suggestion.

The answer is no because it would be PROFESSION SPECIFIC.
If you have a thief and a ranger both, why would you be upset that you can’t have both sets on one character? You might as well demand the ability to use every weapon in the game, too, because it’s nearly the same thing.

All my +1 for Profession based armors. Not all armors from HoT should be Profession based, I also want some to be “culture” based, i.e. getting the ability to buy weapons and armor fromthe cultures in the jungle, hylek, itzli, etc., by progressing the mastery of learning their languages, kinda like the norn, asura, dwarven and… Ebon…thing… Rank from EotN, where you were able to buy weapons at Rank 4 and Armor at Rank 5

That ranger armour form the trailer is norn T2 cultural, so no, that is not profession-specific

I’m totally down with more cultural armour, but even more restrictions seem rather unnecessary. Doesn’t even make sense; cultural is tailored to a race/culture, but what would be profession-specific? Sneakthief, for example, looks thief-y on female and ranger-y on male. Where would you sort it? And don’t even get me started on the gigantic differences between male and female caster armours and robes…
The armour selection is small enough as it is, I don’t want to find a perfect armour for a character and then find it gated by profession. That would suck.

darkm.4839:

If you have a thief and a ranger both, why would you be upset that you can’t have both sets on one character? You might as well demand the ability to use every weapon in the game, too, because it’s nearly the same thing.

Well, it’s both medium armour, which is always the same, while weapons are… well, not the same? That is a flawed comparison. And I’d hate it because I farmed tokens for certain sets so more than one character could use the skin. So I’d have to do it all twice or even more often for a single piece of armour of the same kitten class? No thanks.

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

well we’ve seen profession specific armor in the trailer for HoT… remember the druid?

https://nerdybookahs.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/gw2_heart-of-thorns_ranger_druid_044.jpg

…The shoulders seem unique, pretty cool with the branches, that staff is neat, but the chestpiece is just the T2 Norn Cultural Medium Armor. Pretty sure same applies to the Pants, definitely boots. Gloves, who cares. Concering head, that could be one of the normal norn hairstyles. Maybe it’s a new hairstyle. And maybe it’s a new piece of headgear, but to be honest, a bandana would be very disappointing. So it’s actually just a new Shoulderpiece we are seeing here. Saying it will be bound to the Druid is just an assumption with no proof, as gear with more wooden ingedients seems to be a very likely feature for heart of thorns.

ChyldeMyst.5098:

runeblade.7514:

Can I wear Ranger armor on my thief? Can I wear thief armor on my ranger?

If the answer is no. Then I say NO to your suggestion.

Whyever not? We have race-specific armor, and I think that’s wonderful. I wish we had more of it. Class-specific armor would just be another way to make sure your character doesn’t look like every other character out there, especially now that the wardrobe lets classes use each others’ starter gear. (Granted, the wraith mask looks AWESOME on my Mesmer….)

At some point, a little class/race exclusivity adds flavor and makes things unique.

Because I don’t want ANet waste dev time restricting customization so that a few player could few unique.

I want more pieces so I can create my own unique look.

Class-specific armor would just be another way to make sure your character doesn’t look like every other character out there

Wrong. Class specific armor makes you look like every other profession. e.g All mesmer will look the same as other mesmers.

If you’re afraid of looking like other players. Make your own unique look! No one is forcing you to use T3 armor.

darkm.4839:

runeblade.7514:

Can I wear Ranger armor on my thief? Can I wear thief armor on my ranger?

If the answer is no. Then I say NO to your suggestion.

The answer is no because it would be PROFESSION SPECIFIC.
If you have a thief and a ranger both, why would you be upset that you can’t have both sets on one character? You might as well demand the ability to use every weapon in the game, too, because it’s nearly the same thing.

I do want to use every weapons, but it is not the same thing.

Weapon sets in this game affects the game combat system. Armor does not.

Professions armor are there already but any other one can wear them, people that played GW1 can recognize them ( for example: masks = mesmer related armor, forehead emblems = elementalist related armor ) BUT PLEASE bring back those good old super fashion male mesmer armors

Red Queen.7915:

darkm.4839:

If you have a thief and a ranger both, why would you be upset that you can’t have both sets on one character? You might as well demand the ability to use every weapon in the game, too, because it’s nearly the same thing.

Well, it’s both medium armour, which is always the same, while weapons are… well, not the same? That is a flawed comparison. And I’d hate it because I farmed tokens for certain sets so more than one character could use the skin. So I’d have to do it all twice or even more often for a single piece of armour of the same kitten class? No thanks.

All armor in GW1 was profession specific. I liked it, because you knew who was what. There wasn’t a problem of all warriors looking the same because there were several sets of armor you could mix and match. This is essentially what I want, 3 or more sets of armor per profession that are specific to that profession. It doesn’t have to be a hard grindfest to get, it could be as easy as visiting your trainer and picking it up for similar prices as the race armor. You could mix and match to make your own look AND represent your profession. You shouldn’t have the attitude of “I want EVERYTHING IN THE GAME on one character,” because that’s never going to happen. If that’s the only argument you have, you might as well demand to have every profession and armor class available on one character too. That will never happen, and I pray it never happens because it would essentially kill the replayability of the game. There would be no incentive to make a new character, no benefit or reason whatsoever.

darkm.4839:

All armor in GW1 was profession specific. I liked it, because you knew who was what. There wasn’t a problem of all warriors looking the same because there were several sets of armor you could mix and match. This is essentially what I want, 3 or more sets of armor per profession that are specific to that profession. It doesn’t have to be a hard grindfest to get, it could be as easy as visiting your trainer and picking it up for similar prices as the race armor. You could mix and match to make your own look AND represent your profession.

So what happens when the enemy team does not use profession specific armor even when nonsense like this is added? Do you still get confused? GW1 profession specific armor works because it was heavily restricted. You are suggesting only 3 sets of armor for each profession. I can wear Barbarian armor to make you very confused on which profession I am playing as.

You shouldn’t have the attitude of “I want EVERYTHING IN THE GAME on one character,” because that’s never going to happen. If that’s the only argument you have, you might as well demand to have every profession and armor class available on one character too. That will never happen, and I pray it never happens because it would essentially kill the replayability of the game. There would be no incentive to make a new character, no benefit or reason whatsoever.

Strawman argument.

We are not arguing for every profession on one character. We are arguing against profession specific armor which is needlessly restrictive.

crismuno.4210:

Professions armor are there already but any other one can wear them, people that played GW1 can recognize them ( for example: masks = mesmer related armor, forehead emblems = elementalist related armor ) BUT PLEASE bring back those good old super fashion male mesmer armors

This.

This is how Guild Wars 2 should approach profession specific armor and stay as that way.

runeblade.7514:

darkm.4839:

All armor in GW1 was profession specific. I liked it, because you knew who was what. There wasn’t a problem of all warriors looking the same because there were several sets of armor you could mix and match. This is essentially what I want, 3 or more sets of armor per profession that are specific to that profession. It doesn’t have to be a hard grindfest to get, it could be as easy as visiting your trainer and picking it up for similar prices as the race armor. You could mix and match to make your own look AND represent your profession.

So what happens when the enemy team does not use profession specific armor even when nonsense like this is added? Do you still get confused? GW1 profession specific armor works because it was heavily restricted. You are suggesting only 3 sets of armor for each profession. I can wear Barbarian armor to make you very confused on which profession I am playing as.

You shouldn’t have the attitude of “I want EVERYTHING IN THE GAME on one character,” because that’s never going to happen. If that’s the only argument you have, you might as well demand to have every profession and armor class available on one character too. That will never happen, and I pray it never happens because it would essentially kill the replayability of the game. There would be no incentive to make a new character, no benefit or reason whatsoever.

Strawman argument.

We are not arguing for every profession on one character. We are arguing against profession specific armor which is needlessly restrictive.

I couldn’t give a toss about PvP or WvW, I don’t understand your argument with the “other team” thing. How am I confused? I think you are the one who is confused.
It’s not “needlessly” restrictive, it just makes sense. There’s already race specific armor, why not have profession specific armor? It’s no different. If you want that armor, get it on the profession it’s meant for. No sense in a ranger running around decked out like an engineer, or a mesmer wearing a necromancer’s garb.

However, if you were in charge of putting content into the game and had it the way you insist, I would still be happy having profession armor that could be shared across characters. Not AS happy, but as long as I can make a ranger that looks like a kitten ranger and not like some weirdo wearing a trench coat I’m fine.

I’d actually like to see a lot of armor from GW1 make a return in the form of profession armor (or just period). I loathe the look of lower tier armor in GW2, and wish we could get more customization.

No sense in a ranger running around decked out like an engineer, or a mesmer wearing a necromancer’s garb.

Then why are you running around with Engineer garb or necromancer’s garb? Make your character look like a Ranger or Mesmer.

It’s not “needlessly” restrictive, it just makes sense.

Wrong, it is needlessly restrictive.

A Ranger’s shoulder armor could looks good and make “sense” on my Thief. This profession specific nonsense is needlessly restricting me from getting that shoulder armor.

ChyldeMyst.5098:

runeblade.7514:

Can I wear Ranger armor on my thief? Can I wear thief armor on my ranger?

If the answer is no. Then I say NO to your suggestion.

Whyever not? We have race-specific armor, and I think that’s wonderful. I wish we had more of it. Class-specific armor would just be another way to make sure your character doesn’t look like every other character out there, especially now that the wardrobe lets classes use each others’ starter gear. (Granted, the wraith mask looks AWESOME on my Mesmer….)

At some point, a little class/race exclusivity adds flavor and makes things unique.

I hate how cultural armor is race exclusive personally, takes away so many options that look really cool especially for medium armors we need more choices, not less. I remember it in WoW too and I also hated it there, I love my pally to death but really like warrior armor yet i really hated warrior’s skill set. It might not be enough to make people quit but it’s enough to get people frustrated.

However sine where one the WoW topic they had racial mounts, if you wanted a races mount you had to rep grind for that race would be really swagger if they did that for cultural armor…

One set per spec, with a cultural armor kinda feel. Love this idea!

darkm.4839:

It’s not “needlessly” restrictive, it just makes sense. There’s already race specific armor, why not have profession specific armor? It’s no different.

Norns can’t fit in armors sized for asuras, that makes sense. Cultural armorsmiths don’t make armors for any other race and don’t copy armors from other races, which explains why you can’t find cultural armor from other races that fit, which also makes sense.

A thief being unable to wear a ranger’kitten doesn’t make sense unless it’s some weird Cthulhu-esque living armor that has a mind of its own and silently judges people’s life choices.

Pandaman.4758:

A thief being unable to wear a ranger’kitten doesn’t make sense unless it’s some weird Cthulhu-esque living armor that has a mind of its own and silently judges people’s life choices.

Okay, that, I would actually love^^
Fine, it’d get annoying faster than that stupid Hoho-Tron backpiece, but I suppose it would be fun for about ten minutes to have your armour “tsk” quietly every time you kill someone from stealth, or complain about making a mess for other people when you hack someone’s head off with your axe…

darkm, from your posts, I assume your problem is not that you can’t dress your toon the way you want, but that other people aren’t dressing their toons the way you want. Seriously? “I want rangers to look different from thieves and that includes other people’s thieves and rangers because my opinion matters most!” is… not a good thing to bring up in your favour. Would that armour have any advantages for your profession? Or would it be purely cosmetic, in that it forces a certain look upon the player, even if that player would like to dress their character in another style? The way you phrase your arguments, it means that you demand to judge what a thief should look like, what a warrior should look like, what a necromancer should look like, and that just doesn’t work. My asura necromancer runs around in white and purple. She looks like a mesmer. You’d probably hate that, since you can’t tell whether she’s a necro or a mesmer without clicking on her, but for me, it’s the way she’d dress if she were real. Same with my human necromancer, who wears dark blues with icy blue/white contrast colours, because that’s what she would wear if she were real. Likewise, I have seen plenty of guardians looking like classic barbarian warriors, and warriors looking like a model guardian. No way to tell if they both have a greatsword equipped, or sword/shield, or any kind of weapon the other class can equip as well. Doesn’t seem to bother most players.
There is no “uniform” for the classes, and that’s a good thing. You claim that all characters look the same, but in reality, there are so many options to mix and match that the actual variety is huge (even though I personally think it’s still nowhere near big enough^^). After about level 10, when people start their stories and collect new armour, very few characters even look similar, let alone the same. Restricting certain armour sets to certain classes would actually limit a player’s options of combining pieces of those sets with others to create a unique look.

Photonman.6241:

One set per spec, with a cultural armor kinda feel. Love this idea!

I think if it’s done this way it’s totally doable. When you have 9 professions, 5 races, and male and female, it makes it too much work to be worth it to do. 1 set for each profession would work though and it would be pretty great.

I think doing it for the specializations would be a better idea than for the professions though.

Okay, regardless of wether or not it’s too “restrictive or not.” It’s not going to happen – or at least not the the proportion you want. You will not get about 3 sets per class. Maybe one, at max, but 3 is way too much.

You’d have to create a set for:
Ele – Human, asura, sylvari, charr, norn
Necro – human, asura, sylvari, charr, norn
mesmer – human, asura, sylvari, charr, norn
thief – human, asura, sylvari, charr, norn
ranger – human, asura, sylvari, charr, norn
engineer – human, asura, sylvari, charr, norn
warrior – human, asura, sylvari, charr, norn
guardian – human, asura, sylvari, charr, norn
revenant – human, asura, sylvari, charr, norn

That’s what, 45 different sets of armor? And you want to multiply that by 3? lol. The sets themselves might be similar to one another, but fact is they’d have to design it correctly for each race, which would take time. Even if you combine human and sylvari together as one, there’s still quite a lot of sets. And assuming this sort of thing would be similar in nature to cultural armor, 3 sets would get obsessive.

I’d much rather they simply add in regular sets of armor we haven’t seen before that can be gained by gameplay and not the gemstore.

I’m kinda glad they took out profession-specific armor. I’d rather combine existing armor to an outfit I like and dye it accordingly.
If a Necro wants to run around, looking like a noble in colorful formal attire, why not?

I’d rather have them put more effort in making the armors look good on all races, rather than just scaling them around.
Asura need real boots without clipping toes! There should be a male and female version of armors for the asura-race. Last but not least a little less clipping for the ears.
For Charr the armor should have additional parts at the neck, so heavy armor actually looks like it protects them from being beheaded. Charr should have access to helmets that don’t clip of ears or horns.

I’d rather go for overall race-adapted quality instead of human-focused quantity.

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

well we’ve seen profession specific armor in the trailer for HoT… remember the druid?

https://nerdybookahs.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/gw2_heart-of-thorns_ranger_druid_044.jpg

Everyone take a closer look at those shoulders. I don’t know if it’s been said, but it’s obviously been missed a lot of times. Those shoulders have figures of Raven, Wolf, Bear, and Snow Leopard on them. They are new norn racial!

Edit: Not as clear, but I definitely think the staff has the same figures and is also a new norn racial texture.

runeblade.7514:

Can I wear Ranger armor on my thief? Can I wear thief armor on my ranger?

If the answer is no. Then I say NO to your suggestion.

Can you wear charr cultural armor on a human? Can you wear human cultural armor on a charr? If the answer is no, then you say NO to that too?

Allowing rangers to wear thief armor and thieves to wear ranger armor completely defeats the purpose of what the OP is suggesting.

I really like the idea of class-specific armor and I actually wanted to post this idea on the forum as well. I would love to see at least 1 of 2 armor sets unique for each class, which of course can only be worn by the class it’s designed for.

Based on the HoT trailers we’ve seen, I think the OP’s suggestion might very well become a reality. We already see revenant Rytlock with armor that looks very revenant-specific, and of course that druid that has armor very befitting for a druid. That engineer also had a very cool typical engineer helmet. To me it seems like we’re getting the class-specific armor that we want. I sure hope so!

just make some armors that are clearly designed for a specific profession and sell em\put em into hot as drops and have it over with. Wanna have a darn engineer look for your ranger? Suit yourself. Wanna look like a thief on your engi? Go for it… and done

Red Queen.7915:

Pandaman.4758:

A thief being unable to wear a ranger’kitten doesn’t make sense unless it’s some weird Cthulhu-esque living armor that has a mind of its own and silently judges people’s life choices.

Okay, that, I would actually love^^
Fine, it’d get annoying faster than that stupid Hoho-Tron backpiece, but I suppose it would be fun for about ten minutes to have your armour “tsk” quietly every time you kill someone from stealth, or complain about making a mess for other people when you hack someone’s head off with your axe…

darkm, from your posts, I assume your problem is not that you can’t dress your toon the way you want, but that other people aren’t dressing their toons the way you want. Seriously? “I want rangers to look different from thieves and that includes other people’s thieves and rangers because my opinion matters most!” is… not a good thing to bring up in your favour. Would that armour have any advantages for your profession? Or would it be purely cosmetic, in that it forces a certain look upon the player, even if that player would like to dress their character in another style? The way you phrase your arguments, it means that you demand to judge what a thief should look like, what a warrior should look like, what a necromancer should look like, and that just doesn’t work. My asura necromancer runs around in white and purple. She looks like a mesmer. You’d probably hate that, since you can’t tell whether she’s a necro or a mesmer without clicking on her, but for me, it’s the way she’d dress if she were real. Same with my human necromancer, who wears dark blues with icy blue/white contrast colours, because that’s what she would wear if she were real. Likewise, I have seen plenty of guardians looking like classic barbarian warriors, and warriors looking like a model guardian. No way to tell if they both have a greatsword equipped, or sword/shield, or any kind of weapon the other class can equip as well. Doesn’t seem to bother most players.
There is no “uniform” for the classes, and that’s a good thing. You claim that all characters look the same, but in reality, there are so many options to mix and match that the actual variety is huge (even though I personally think it’s still nowhere near big enough^^). After about level 10, when people start their stories and collect new armour, very few characters even look similar, let alone the same. Restricting certain armour sets to certain classes would actually limit a player’s options of combining pieces of those sets with others to create a unique look.

QFT, This can’t be said any better.

LucosTheDutch.4819:

Allowing rangers to wear thief armor and thieves to wear ranger armor completely defeats the purpose of what the OP is suggesting.

Good. I don’t like his purpose.

LucosTheDutch.4819:

I really like the idea of class-specific armor and I actually wanted to post this idea on the forum as well. I would love to see at least 1 of 2 armor sets unique for each class, which of course can only be worn by the class it’s designed for.

No. If you want your ranger look like a ranger, then make your ranger look like a ranger. Making it unique doesn’t add anything to you, It only takes away from me.

Making it profession-specific:

You: I can make my ranger look like a ranger!
Me: I can’t use that awesome shoulder armor that looks good on my engineer!

Ignoring the nonsense:

You: I can make my ranger look like a ranger!
Me: I can use that awesome shoulder armor that looks good on my engineer!

By ignoring this nonsense suggestion, everyone is happy.