Guild Wars 2

While we (imo) do not necessarily need a hype train, some hype is good! I have been eagerly checking the posts waiting for this! So THANK YOU for some hype/heads-up/future content

No we need hype. I dont like that the game is a waste land for 3 months after each update because no news. Sure overhypimg is bad but no hyping or communicating is just as bad.

Hype is bad….. should stick to excitement.

With great hype comes great responsibility.

zealex.9410:

No we need hype. I dont like that the game is a waste land for 3 months after each update because no news. Sure overhypimg is bad but no hyping or communicating is just as bad.

This. Hype requires a happy medium. Anet seems to have trouble finding it.

Einlanzer.1627:

zealex.9410:

No we need hype. I dont like that the game is a waste land for 3 months after each update because no news. Sure overhypimg is bad but no hyping or communicating is just as bad.

This. Hype requires a happy medium. Anet seems to have trouble finding it.

There really isn’t a happy medium though. If you hype something enough to get people who don’t play the game to check the game out, it’s overhyped for us.

If you hype something the right level for us, people outside the game will never see it or be tempted if they do.

You can’t really hit both markets without disappointing someone.

Vayne.8563:

Einlanzer.1627:

zealex.9410:

No we need hype. I dont like that the game is a waste land for 3 months after each update because no news. Sure overhypimg is bad but no hyping or communicating is just as bad.

This. Hype requires a happy medium. Anet seems to have trouble finding it.

There really isn’t a happy medium though. If you hype something enough to get people who don’t play the game to check the game out, it’s overhyped for us.

If you hype something the right level for us, people outside the game will never see it or be tempted if they do.

You can’t really hit both markets without disappointing someone.

I don’t think that’s strictly true. I think they got caught in this with HoT because the amount of content didn’t measure up to the hype, and they probably knew it and are now compensating by moving in the other direction. But moving to the other side of the spectrum isn’t any better. What they need to do is make sure they’re generating hype, but that the hype doesn’t represent hyperbole regarding what they’re able to actually deliver.

The problem with “hype” is most people start reading what other players are posting and getting caught up in what others are talking about without reading what the Devs posted. And in then they start getting conflicting or wrong information that they take to be true. And then they get upset that it’s not like what other players said or what they imagined what was said in between the lines of what the Devs said.

I was not disappointed in HoT. I read what the Devs said. I understood what they wrote PLUS I also understood that things may change anyway since “nothing survives first contact”

PyrateSilly.4710:

The problem with “hype” is most people start reading what other players are posting and getting caught up in what others are talking about without reading what the Devs posted. And in then they start getting conflicting or wrong information that they take to be true. And then they get upset that it’s not like what other players said or what they imagined what was said in between the lines of what the Devs said.

I was not disappointed in HoT. I read what the Devs said. I understood what they wrote PLUS I also understood that things may change anyway since “nothing survives first contact”

Actually, the problem with HoT is that it didn’t contain the amount of content people expect for an expansion from playing other MMOs. The fact that it took three years to come out AND was full priced AND was over-hyped by Anet just made the problem worse. I don’t think you can really put that on players.

Einlanzer.1627:

PyrateSilly.4710:

The problem with “hype” is most people start reading what other players are posting and getting caught up in what others are talking about without reading what the Devs posted. And in then they start getting conflicting or wrong information that they take to be true. And then they get upset that it’s not like what other players said or what they imagined what was said in between the lines of what the Devs said.

I was not disappointed in HoT. I read what the Devs said. I understood what they wrote PLUS I also understood that things may change anyway since “nothing survives first contact”

Actually, the problem with HoT is that it didn’t contain the amount of content people expect for an expansion from playing other MMOs. The fact that it took three years to come out AND was full priced AND was over-hyped by Anet just made the problem worse. I don’t think you can really put that on players.

And that is exactly why they said, as they promoted HoT, “it is a feature expansion pack” not a content full expansion pack. And I don’t think they worked on it for three years since they had no time to deliver content between the announcement of the expac and the release date.

flog.3485:

Einlanzer.1627:

PyrateSilly.4710:

The problem with “hype” is most people start reading what other players are posting and getting caught up in what others are talking about without reading what the Devs posted. And in then they start getting conflicting or wrong information that they take to be true. And then they get upset that it’s not like what other players said or what they imagined what was said in between the lines of what the Devs said.

I was not disappointed in HoT. I read what the Devs said. I understood what they wrote PLUS I also understood that things may change anyway since “nothing survives first contact”

Actually, the problem with HoT is that it didn’t contain the amount of content people expect for an expansion from playing other MMOs. The fact that it took three years to come out AND was full priced AND was over-hyped by Anet just made the problem worse. I don’t think you can really put that on players.

And that is exactly why they said, as they promoted HoT, “it is a feature expansion pack” not a content full expansion pack. And I don’t think they worked on it for three years since they had no time to deliver content between the announcement of the expac and the release date.

There’s not really a distinction between those two things, that’s just what they said to try to manage around the recognition that it didn’t have as much content as people normally expect from an xpac. Nobody should have been surprised when it didn’t really work.

no hype at all, no excitement , guess what, don’t give a XXXXXXXoXXXX!!!

Einlanzer.1627:

PyrateSilly.4710:

The problem with “hype” is most people start reading what other players are posting and getting caught up in what others are talking about without reading what the Devs posted. And in then they start getting conflicting or wrong information that they take to be true. And then they get upset that it’s not like what other players said or what they imagined what was said in between the lines of what the Devs said.

I was not disappointed in HoT. I read what the Devs said. I understood what they wrote PLUS I also understood that things may change anyway since “nothing survives first contact”

Actually, the problem with HoT is that it didn’t contain the amount of content people expect for an expansion from playing other MMOs. The fact that it took three years to come out AND was full priced AND was over-hyped by Anet just made the problem worse. I don’t think you can really put that on players.

See that’s the problem . I got exactly what I was expecting with hype due to what Anet said. They said it would be an expansion light on content and heavy on changes to the game mechanics. They went into excrutiating detail.

The real issue was less the hype and more then distance between the announcement and the launch.

Anet did promise some stuff that didn’t make it into the launch, and some stuff that’s even still coming out but that’s nothing to do with hype one way or another.

I’ve always known and have said for ages that HoT was a combination season pass and expansion. You can find me saying that even before HOT launched.

Those that argued it was just an expansion and didn’t include the upcoming LS 3 in it, well, I got the LS 3 for free, because I was here. And when you add that to HoT content it was a decent sized expansion in my opinion.

And again, I was saying this on these forums from the very beginning.

Well it dident include ls3 since even having ftp got it unlocked if you played during release time of the ep.
That you could then play when ever you picked up hot or the next expansion.

Only reason I bought it before release was so that I could get s3 unlocked since they dident decide to tell us how they were going to do it before releasing the first episode.
( Oh and the free character slot helped aswell)

Vayne.8563:

Einlanzer.1627:

PyrateSilly.4710:

The problem with “hype” is most people start reading what other players are posting and getting caught up in what others are talking about without reading what the Devs posted. And in then they start getting conflicting or wrong information that they take to be true. And then they get upset that it’s not like what other players said or what they imagined what was said in between the lines of what the Devs said.

I was not disappointed in HoT. I read what the Devs said. I understood what they wrote PLUS I also understood that things may change anyway since “nothing survives first contact”

Actually, the problem with HoT is that it didn’t contain the amount of content people expect for an expansion from playing other MMOs. The fact that it took three years to come out AND was full priced AND was over-hyped by Anet just made the problem worse. I don’t think you can really put that on players.

See that’s the problem . I got exactly what I was expecting with hype due to what Anet said. They said it would be an expansion light on content and heavy on changes to the game mechanics. They went into excrutiating detail.

The real issue was less the hype and more then distance between the announcement and the launch.

Anet did promise some stuff that didn’t make it into the launch, and some stuff that’s even still coming out but that’s nothing to do with hype one way or another.

I’ve always known and have said for ages that HoT was a combination season pass and expansion. You can find me saying that even before HOT launched.

Those that argued it was just an expansion and didn’t include the upcoming LS 3 in it, well, I got the LS 3 for free, because I was here. And when you add that to HoT content it was a decent sized expansion in my opinion.

And again, I was saying this on these forums from the very beginning.

It’s ridiculous to try to blame players for HoT not meeting their expectations, and surely you know it.

Einlanzer.1627:

Vayne.8563:

Einlanzer.1627:

PyrateSilly.4710:

The problem with “hype” is most people start reading what other players are posting and getting caught up in what others are talking about without reading what the Devs posted. And in then they start getting conflicting or wrong information that they take to be true. And then they get upset that it’s not like what other players said or what they imagined what was said in between the lines of what the Devs said.

I was not disappointed in HoT. I read what the Devs said. I understood what they wrote PLUS I also understood that things may change anyway since “nothing survives first contact”

Actually, the problem with HoT is that it didn’t contain the amount of content people expect for an expansion from playing other MMOs. The fact that it took three years to come out AND was full priced AND was over-hyped by Anet just made the problem worse. I don’t think you can really put that on players.

See that’s the problem . I got exactly what I was expecting with hype due to what Anet said. They said it would be an expansion light on content and heavy on changes to the game mechanics. They went into excrutiating detail.

The real issue was less the hype and more then distance between the announcement and the launch.

Anet did promise some stuff that didn’t make it into the launch, and some stuff that’s even still coming out but that’s nothing to do with hype one way or another.

I’ve always known and have said for ages that HoT was a combination season pass and expansion. You can find me saying that even before HOT launched.

Those that argued it was just an expansion and didn’t include the upcoming LS 3 in it, well, I got the LS 3 for free, because I was here. And when you add that to HoT content it was a decent sized expansion in my opinion.

And again, I was saying this on these forums from the very beginning.

It’s ridiculous to try to blame players for HoT not meeting their expectations, and surely you know it.

No it really is not anet was very clear what would be included in hot, just becouse some players got over hyped and started to imagen things dont make it ridiculous to blame them for it.

Einlanzer.1627:

Vayne.8563:

Einlanzer.1627:

PyrateSilly.4710:

The problem with “hype” is most people start reading what other players are posting and getting caught up in what others are talking about without reading what the Devs posted. And in then they start getting conflicting or wrong information that they take to be true. And then they get upset that it’s not like what other players said or what they imagined what was said in between the lines of what the Devs said.

I was not disappointed in HoT. I read what the Devs said. I understood what they wrote PLUS I also understood that things may change anyway since “nothing survives first contact”

Actually, the problem with HoT is that it didn’t contain the amount of content people expect for an expansion from playing other MMOs. The fact that it took three years to come out AND was full priced AND was over-hyped by Anet just made the problem worse. I don’t think you can really put that on players.

See that’s the problem . I got exactly what I was expecting with hype due to what Anet said. They said it would be an expansion light on content and heavy on changes to the game mechanics. They went into excrutiating detail.

The real issue was less the hype and more then distance between the announcement and the launch.

Anet did promise some stuff that didn’t make it into the launch, and some stuff that’s even still coming out but that’s nothing to do with hype one way or another.

I’ve always known and have said for ages that HoT was a combination season pass and expansion. You can find me saying that even before HOT launched.

Those that argued it was just an expansion and didn’t include the upcoming LS 3 in it, well, I got the LS 3 for free, because I was here. And when you add that to HoT content it was a decent sized expansion in my opinion.

And again, I was saying this on these forums from the very beginning.

It’s ridiculous to try to blame players for HoT not meeting their expectations, and surely you know it.

HoT met my expectations. It’s ridiculous to say HoT didn’t meet expectations because it didn’t meet yours. Surely you know that.

Vayne.8563:

Einlanzer.1627:

PyrateSilly.4710:

The problem with “hype” is most people start reading what other players are posting and getting caught up in what others are talking about without reading what the Devs posted. And in then they start getting conflicting or wrong information that they take to be true. And then they get upset that it’s not like what other players said or what they imagined what was said in between the lines of what the Devs said.

I was not disappointed in HoT. I read what the Devs said. I understood what they wrote PLUS I also understood that things may change anyway since “nothing survives first contact”

Actually, the problem with HoT is that it didn’t contain the amount of content people expect for an expansion from playing other MMOs. The fact that it took three years to come out AND was full priced AND was over-hyped by Anet just made the problem worse. I don’t think you can really put that on players.

See that’s the problem . I got exactly what I was expecting with hype due to what Anet said. They said it would be an expansion light on content and heavy on changes to the game mechanics. They went into excrutiating detail.

The real issue was less the hype and more then distance between the announcement and the launch.

Anet did promise some stuff that didn’t make it into the launch, and some stuff that’s even still coming out but that’s nothing to do with hype one way or another.

I’ve always known and have said for ages that HoT was a combination season pass and expansion. You can find me saying that even before HOT launched.

Those that argued it was just an expansion and didn’t include the upcoming LS 3 in it, well, I got the LS 3 for free, because I was here. And when you add that to HoT content it was a decent sized expansion in my opinion.

And again, I was saying this on these forums from the very beginning.

Ah Vayne, I haven’t agree always with you, even I haven’t say it in here Forums. But in this case I agree with you 100 %.

HoT was everything what Anet promised to deliver to us. But most of the people don’t understand that some changes what they did to Guild Wars 2 came bit earlier than HoT was started. They made a lot changes to game mechanics which affected to all players, all those who did bought HoT and those who didn’t bought it, but it was part of HoT delivery.

That Hype Train was highspeed before HoT started, but somehow that Hype Train crashed to something. Maybe they raised that Hype Train speed too high and too early so first expectations had time to die. I don’t know what happened, but many people was dissapointed after HoT was landed.

I was a shocked first about HoT’s difficulty, but at time I started to like HoT. And now, I would not give it away at any costs. It had good story. It has lot to do, and most of all HoT have been made Anet’s best quality as always their games are.

Even this comes bit late, but yeah why not:

THANK YOU Anet for Heart of Thorns.
THANK YOU Anet for Living World 3 too. I can not wait to get that last episode and play it thru

starlinvf.1358:

Hype is bad….. should stick to excitement.

Quoting for truth.

In bevor the hype about mounts results in massiv forum posts about people being disapointed because they are zone specific. You heard it here first.

On HoT, I preordered it, played the kitten out of it, took a break, returned and am still loving the game. Probably close to 1,000 hours spent since HoT launched (total of about 3,800 hours on account). It’s rediculous how high the expectations are from players regarding MMOs. I can’t even remember the last single player game I’ve spent this much time on for 60 bucks. Baldur’s Gate or Chrono Trigger maybe over all the iterations of those games I’ve played.