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Posted by: Notsoperky.2348

Notsoperky.2348

Going by yesterdays stream, they lost about 2k viewership over the first week of ESL Pro Leagues.

No doubt that will be a ‘temporary blip’ ‘timing’ ‘other events were on at same time’ blah blah blah.

I tried watching one of the those streams with the commentary and had to turn off the commentary after a couple of minutes as they sounded like over excited kids on speed- totally ruined the viewing. Then watching something where half the build is hidden and a lot of time is spent standing on a spot…it’s not exactly riveting viewing.

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Posted by: Gaaroth.2567

Gaaroth.2567

kitten right OP

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Tempest & Druid
Wat r u, casul?

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Posted by: smiling.9028

smiling.9028

You know what MMO means to MOST players? “I can team up with my friends when I want to” not “I have to huddle up with strangers to get things done”.

And the MMOs that don’t figure that out die.

Well said!

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Posted by: Artaz.3819

Artaz.3819

You have opinions. They have opinions. ANet’s answer should be somewhere in between.

You all want the same thing…a game tailored to how you want to play.

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Posted by: Buford.2954

Buford.2954

I just realized how casual this community can be , i mean seriously?!?!

*Q: Why are we forced to do Adventures, why do we need silver rank to complete collections/acquire mastery points?
A: Nobody forces you , if you are too lazy and want to get gold rank from the 1st try this thing won’t get you far.

Yep, I’m lazy and casual. I’ve logged in to play practically every day for two years, full ascended on my guard and most pieces on my mesmer, map completion more than once, map completed the new HoT zones.

I played A Fungus Among Us several hours straight (or at least when the map would let me) over two days AFTER watching videos and still couldn’t make silver for HOPE III. All I accomplished was wanting to put my foot through the monitor. It’s a requirement for HOPE III, which by that point I had already sunk a massive amount of gold into.

Fast forward to last night when I handed over the keyboard to a, I don’t know, I guess they’re a “hardcore, non lazy player” in your view, person who barely plays GW2 but is a master at platformers and they blitzed through and completed silver after a few tries so I could get the kitten collection item.

Lazy and casual, that’s me. Or maybe I HATE TIME TRIALS AND DID NOT SIGN UP TO PLAY ARCADE GAMES IN A MMO.

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Posted by: qbalrog.8017

qbalrog.8017

It’s not the right word. Most of the complaints are from the gates that inhibit players from doing. That’s not being lazy, that’s players being annoyed by artificially being held back.

What is lazy is using arbitrary gates to spin out limited content. I’m an old time gamer. I’ve seen it long ago in the old adventure games that could be done in a few hours if they didn’t put some arbitrary puzzle in the game to slow players down.

I don’t mind working on something. I do mind sitting around twiddling my thumbs waiting for something to be ready. Or running zone events over and over again. I don’t care about the precursor crafting (I was looking forward to the scavenger hunt but not the way they implemented it. That said, I’ve never been about doing legendaries anyway). I do care that it is hard to fine something fun to do that isn’t repetitive. And this is from someone who farmed the old WoW frost sabre mount.

As ANET said long ago, the game should be about playing it your way. Now, I need to spend a lot of time doing things I don’t like doing IF I kept playing it. But this is 2015, there are many other things out there. I’ve yet to find anything as fun as GW2 but there’s plenty of things more fun than HoT.

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Posted by: qbalrog.8017

qbalrog.8017

It isn’t about easy rewards per se, only proportional rewards.

Exactly. Or put another way, GW2 is a game, a form of entertainment. Skew the effort/reward ratio the wrong way and it becomes less entertaining than the vast array of other entertainments we have in the year 2015.

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Posted by: Sicarius.4639

Sicarius.4639

Going by yesterdays stream, they lost about 2k viewership over the first week of ESL Pro Leagues.

No doubt that will be a ‘temporary blip’ ‘timing’ ‘other events were on at same time’ blah blah blah.

I tried watching one of the those streams with the commentary and had to turn off the commentary after a couple of minutes as they sounded like over excited kids on speed- totally ruined the viewing. Then watching something where half the build is hidden and a lot of time is spent standing on a spot…it’s not exactly riveting viewing.

Well looks like their PvP has to deal with the new competition now, Vain Glory is causing quite the stir, picking up 4k views for their Mobile moba. Was interesting to watch the bottom of the screen which had 10 guys sitting their on their mobile devices at a desk, will be interesting to see how the numbers battle it out over the next few weeks.

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Posted by: xarallei.4279

xarallei.4279

Sorry, I don’t agree with you on the master point issue. You should not be forced to do boring kitten adventures to get mastery points. They need to add more options to get these elsewhere.

Though if they can assure me that there is no reason whatsoever to max all my masteries and they won’t try to gate any future content behind them then sure, whatever I just won’t max my masteries. But if they plan on gating things, then yes they need to offer more options to get mp.

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Posted by: Zoltar MacRoth.7146

Zoltar MacRoth.7146

All I accomplished was wanting to put my foot through the monitor. It’s a requirement for HOPE III

I’m really hoping that putting your foot through the monitor isn’t literally the requirement for HOPE III… but with anet you never know.