Too much work to unlock elite specs
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So you want to be handed everything correct? That’s what ur asking for? Cause that’s what it sounds like.
So you want to be handed everything correct? That’s what ur asking for? Cause that’s what it sounds like.
I didn’t ask for equipment, gold, materials, gems, titles, etc…
Nice try though.
So you want to be handed everything correct? That’s what ur asking for? Cause that’s what it sounds like.
Yes, he paid for the elite spec. Keep your sarcasm to yourself.
So you want to be handed everything correct? That’s what ur asking for? Cause that’s what it sounds like.
Yes, he paid for the elite spec. Keep your sarcasm to yourself.
That’s not even the issue. We also paid for legendaries but it was understood that the legendaries would take a lot of time and effort to unlock.
So you want to be handed everything correct? That’s what ur asking for? Cause that’s what it sounds like.
Yes, he paid for the elite spec. Keep your sarcasm to yourself.
That’s not even the issue. We also paid for legendaries but it was understood that the legendaries would take a lot of time and effort to unlock.
Compares legendaries to basic class skills in a game with no power creep by design.
Optional cosmetics = skills/traits that open up new play styles not possible beforehand.
On a scale of 1 to Even, I literally can’t…
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elite is something will change your gameplay and give it to you more fun, that’s why should be nice earn it w/o be forced to do something you dont like, should be avalaible in every game more, fractals, spvp, www, and ls
for example i’m pushed to do story and jumping maps stuff i dont like, for have my elite spec, and worst things, is i have 8 classes…
So you want to be handed everything correct? That’s what ur asking for? Cause that’s what it sounds like.
Nice strawman fallacy.
He never said he wanted everything handed to him, he said the amount of work required to get the Espec is ridiculous, which it is. Most people knew that they had to earn the specs, but the sheer amount of hours this will take was NOT advertised.
The fact that legendaries will take a long time to create WAS advertised.
If the Espec had required a total of, say, 200 HPs to unlock, that would still require an amount of work and mastery gain but it would be much more fair than what is currently required.
A lot of those new hero points are hard gated behind some fairly high level masteries. I’m guessing that that I would have replayed all Verdant brink maps several times before unlocking the elite spec. So by the time I get it I would have done most of the new content already. That in my option makes no sense.
So you want to be handed everything correct? That’s what ur asking for? Cause that’s what it sounds like.
Nice strawman fallacy.
He never said he wanted everything handed to him, he said the amount of work required to get the Espec is ridiculous, which it is. Most people knew that they had to earn the specs, but the sheer amount of hours this will take was NOT advertised.
The fact that legendaries will take a long time to create WAS advertised.
If the Espec had required a total of, say, 200 HPs to unlock, that would still require an amount of work and mastery gain but it would be much more fair than what is currently required.
Your right. Let’s just get everything at launch right away. It’s only fair cause that’s what we “paid” for. Yeah I change my mind. I to want to throw a fit because the game is making me work towards something rather than mindlessly running around the silverwastes all day. You changed my opinion completely. Thanks man! :/
So you want to be handed everything correct? That’s what ur asking for? Cause that’s what it sounds like.
Nice strawman fallacy.
He never said he wanted everything handed to him, he said the amount of work required to get the Espec is ridiculous, which it is. Most people knew that they had to earn the specs, but the sheer amount of hours this will take was NOT advertised.
The fact that legendaries will take a long time to create WAS advertised.
If the Espec had required a total of, say, 200 HPs to unlock, that would still require an amount of work and mastery gain but it would be much more fair than what is currently required.
Your right. Let’s just get everything at launch right away. It’s only fair cause that’s what we “paid” for. Yeah I change my mind. I to want to throw a fit because the game is making me work towards something rather than mindlessly running around the silverwastes all day. You changed my opinion completely. Thanks man! :/
Since when were the elite specs = “everything”?
So you want to be handed everything correct? That’s what ur asking for? Cause that’s what it sounds like.
Nice strawman fallacy.
He never said he wanted everything handed to him, he said the amount of work required to get the Espec is ridiculous, which it is. Most people knew that they had to earn the specs, but the sheer amount of hours this will take was NOT advertised.
The fact that legendaries will take a long time to create WAS advertised.
If the Espec had required a total of, say, 200 HPs to unlock, that would still require an amount of work and mastery gain but it would be much more fair than what is currently required.
Your right. Let’s just get everything at launch right away. It’s only fair cause that’s what we “paid” for. Yeah I change my mind. I to want to throw a fit because the game is making me work towards something rather than mindlessly running around the silverwastes all day. You changed my opinion completely. Thanks man! :/
Since when were the elite specs = “everything”?
I’m going to assume they’re being willfully dishonest or just straight don’t know what the word ‘everything’ means.
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So you want to be handed everything correct? That’s what ur asking for? Cause that’s what it sounds like.
Yes, he paid for the elite spec. Keep your sarcasm to yourself.
That’s not even the issue. We also paid for legendaries but it was understood that the legendaries would take a lot of time and effort to unlock.
Compares legendaries to basic class skills in a game with no power creep by design.
Optional cosmetics = skills/traits that open up new play styles not possible beforehand.
On a scale of 1 to Even, I literally can’t…
On one side we have skills and traits which are not supposed to take a lot of time to unlock. That’s one of the design principles the game is built on.
On the other side we have legendaries which are only cosmetic but take a lot of work to unlock.
In both cases we paid to get access to them but it was clearly understood that the legendaries would take a lot of time and effort so we were ok with paying for the game while knowing that.
Would people still have been ok with paying for it if they knew how long it would take to unlock elite specs? If the designers thought so, they would have told us.
in principle, i have no problem with lots of effort for the elite specs
however, i think 400 hp is too far. it needs to be 200, 250, imo. maybe goes to 400 for bonus swag.
So you want to be handed everything correct? That’s what ur asking for? Cause that’s what it sounds like.
Nice strawman fallacy.
He never said he wanted everything handed to him, he said the amount of work required to get the Espec is ridiculous, which it is. Most people knew that they had to earn the specs, but the sheer amount of hours this will take was NOT advertised.
The fact that legendaries will take a long time to create WAS advertised.
If the Espec had required a total of, say, 200 HPs to unlock, that would still require an amount of work and mastery gain but it would be much more fair than what is currently required.
Your right. Let’s just get everything at launch right away. It’s only fair cause that’s what we “paid” for. Yeah I change my mind. I to want to throw a fit because the game is making me work towards something rather than mindlessly running around the silverwastes all day. You changed my opinion completely. Thanks man! :/
Since when were the elite specs = “everything”?
How would u fix this then? Cause the op only says what’s wrong. But nothing about fixing or maybe a suggestion towards helping. All I see are complaints. Personally I got my elite spec right when I logged in because it was only 60 points to unlock and what’s even better. There’s a skill I want and guess what. I have to work towards it instead of getting it right off the bat.
So you want to be handed everything correct? That’s what ur asking for? Cause that’s what it sounds like.
Yes, he paid for the elite spec. Keep your sarcasm to yourself.
That’s not even the issue. We also paid for legendaries but it was understood that the legendaries would take a lot of time and effort to unlock.
Compares legendaries to basic class skills in a game with no power creep by design.
Optional cosmetics = skills/traits that open up new play styles not possible beforehand.
On a scale of 1 to Even, I literally can’t…
On one side we have skills and traits which are not supposed to take a lot of time to unlock. That’s one of the design principles the game is built on.
On the other side we have legendaries which are only cosmetic but take a lot of work to unlock.
In both cases we paid to get access to them but it was clearly understood that the legendaries would take a lot of time and effort so we were ok with paying for the game while knowing that.
Would people still have been ok with paying for it if they knew how long it would take to unlock elite specs? If the designers thought so, they would have told us.
lol sorry I read that as a “we should have expected this obviously”/“strawmaning the idea that poster wanted legendaires easy because they paid for them” kind of post.
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Do we get enough hero points for the full spec from completing all hero points challenges, or is there another way? I feel like thats not enough if its 1 point each for them
Do we get enough hero points for the full spec from completing all hero points challenges, or is there another way? I feel like thats not enough if its 1 point each for them
Maguuma challenges are worth 10 pts each
Do we get enough hero points for the full spec from completing all hero points challenges, or is there another way? I feel like thats not enough if its 1 point each for them
It’s 10 points per hero point challenge in the new maps… but you have to spend hours leveling your masteries to gain access to most of the challenges AND a lot of them are pretty difficult to even locate in the first place.
I’d like to play the new content in a new way, not play the new content in an old way, and then when I have a new way to play…. play old content ¬_¬
400hp just to get the herald on the new rev.
Now what about the other 8 classes i have. Does Anet really think we are all kittened ?
Do they want us to play a main more than we did before ? Do they want this content to last for another 3 4 years just with these mushrooms and layers ?
WHAT IS THE POINT FOR ALL THIS ???? I DONT GET IT
And these fanboys make me sick.
So you want to be handed everything correct? That’s what ur asking for? Cause that’s what it sounds like.
Nice strawman fallacy.
He never said he wanted everything handed to him, he said the amount of work required to get the Espec is ridiculous, which it is. Most people knew that they had to earn the specs, but the sheer amount of hours this will take was NOT advertised.
The fact that legendaries will take a long time to create WAS advertised.
If the Espec had required a total of, say, 200 HPs to unlock, that would still require an amount of work and mastery gain but it would be much more fair than what is currently required.
Your right. Let’s just get everything at launch right away. It’s only fair cause that’s what we “paid” for. Yeah I change my mind. I to want to throw a fit because the game is making me work towards something rather than mindlessly running around the silverwastes all day. You changed my opinion completely. Thanks man! :/
Since when were the elite specs = “everything”?
How would u fix this then? Cause the op only says what’s wrong. But nothing about fixing or maybe a suggestion towards helping. All I see are complaints. Personally I got my elite spec right when I logged in because it was only 60 points to unlock and what’s even better. There’s a skill I want and guess what. I have to work towards it instead of getting it right off the bat.
Here is how to fix it.
Reduce the hero point costs of the elite specs by 90%. 6 points to unlock, 2-3 points for each skill/trait.
You can work hard for legendary and ascended equipment. You can work hard for fractal personal reward level. You can work hard for masteries.
There is plenty of stuff to keep you busy.
I have to agree with OP. By the time you complete the new content, you still probably haven’t unlock the elite spec. The whole point of new expansion is to play your class differently in a whole new map. Right now, the players are basically playing the same builds. Just way too much grinding. Not fun.
A lot of those new hero points are hard gated behind some fairly high level masteries.
And those that aren’t are ridiculous for other reasons.
I walked to one (emphasis on walked) that spawned a champion dinosaur and required me to kill it in 5 minutes. That’s simply unacceptable (not to mention impossible to do by myself) for something I need to do to unlock content I paid for!
As a WVW/sPVP player the only thing I cared about was the elite specializations and the new WVW/sPVP maps. But now i’m FORCED to play the personal story to unlock the jungle map and then i’m FORCED to play hours and hours of the jungle map (getting crippled every 5 seconds).
Before anyone accuses me of being lazy or wanting things handed to me, I’m not 16 anymore, I work (IRL) 50+ hours per week… I don’t have time to limp around from point to point.
I would NOT have purchased this expansion if I had known that it was a second full-time job.
Oh right, I forgot, you have to repeat the whole process with every one of your characters (please correct me if i’m wrong)
Look at the bright side guys, the elementalists and most warriors won’t care at all.
So you want to be handed everything correct? That’s what ur asking for? Cause that’s what it sounds like.
Nice strawman fallacy.
He never said he wanted everything handed to him, he said the amount of work required to get the Espec is ridiculous, which it is. Most people knew that they had to earn the specs, but the sheer amount of hours this will take was NOT advertised.
The fact that legendaries will take a long time to create WAS advertised.
If the Espec had required a total of, say, 200 HPs to unlock, that would still require an amount of work and mastery gain but it would be much more fair than what is currently required.
Your right. Let’s just get everything at launch right away. It’s only fair cause that’s what we “paid” for. Yeah I change my mind. I to want to throw a fit because the game is making me work towards something rather than mindlessly running around the silverwastes all day. You changed my opinion completely. Thanks man! :/
Since when were the elite specs = “everything”?
How would u fix this then? Cause the op only says what’s wrong. But nothing about fixing or maybe a suggestion towards helping. All I see are complaints. Personally I got my elite spec right when I logged in because it was only 60 points to unlock and what’s even better. There’s a skill I want and guess what. I have to work towards it instead of getting it right off the bat.
Here is how to fix it.
Reduce the hero point costs of the elite specs by 90%. 6 points to unlock, 2-3 points for each skill/trait.
You can work hard for legendary and ascended equipment. You can work hard for fractal personal reward level. You can work hard for masteries.
There is plenty of stuff to keep you busy.
Perfect ! A good post since it details some way of fixing something. Altough I agree 400 does seem a lot. But I enjoy how I’m not getting the whole spec at launch. I think 60 to unlock the basic elite is good. Maybe lower the amount needed for everything after. 15 HP for a trap on my guard seems like a lot.
I just think constructive conversations with how to fix things rather than I hate how anet is doing something.
So you want to be handed everything correct? That’s what ur asking for? Cause that’s what it sounds like.
Yes, he paid for the elite spec. Keep your sarcasm to yourself.
That’s not even the issue. We also paid for legendaries but it was understood that the legendaries would take a lot of time and effort to unlock.
Compares legendaries to basic class skills in a game with no power creep by design.
Optional cosmetics = skills/traits that open up new play styles not possible beforehand.
On a scale of 1 to Even, I literally can’t…
Ah haha best scale ever.
I actually like the effort involved and the challange of hero points. Each unlock feels special.
But then again i actually really enjoy the PvE and don’t really feel the need to have everything unlocked, like right now, so i just play like i normally would and unlock it as i go. Don’t get why people need to rush content.
Tho i get why WwW’ers are kittened off.
Can we get a red on this please. It’s really off putting try to farm for hero points especially since it’s gated when all I want to do us explore the new map as a druid. I also want to do other contents such as fractals but as off right now I can’t cuz I need to be at silver waste or can’t earn hero points unlock my druid first. Wth a net.
Make it 500 hp, 400 is just a weird number. Heck make it 1000 hp, it’s an amazing feeling to be the only one in the game with a certain thing.
Make it 500 hp, 400 is just a weird number. Heck make it 1000 hp, it’s an amazing feeling to be the only one in the game with a certain thing.
If the whole game was designed around that principle it would be ok. Thousands of abilities with many of them being more rare than others. I could see it being a good game, where the whole point is to collect new abilities.
But that’s not GW2.
I have to agree with this. So far, it is the only negative criticism I have with HoT. The new maps are gorgeous, and I’ve only just gotten to the 3rd. There are a ton of different events. Lots of new monsters with different fight mechanics and great looks. I like that there is a new progression system with masteries. Just so many great things to say.
But I was really holding off on buying this for a long time for fear that WvW will be ruined. The biggest selling point for me were the elite specs. It would breath a lot of fresh life into The classes I play.
However, I paid for these elite specs. I’ve spent maybe 20 hours so far on this and I’m not even half way through. Part of the issue is that one needs quite a bit of their masteries unlocked in order to access many of the hero points. This is fine and all for replayability of the map and progression in general, but really a drag just to play what I signed up for. Part of the issue is that hero points will not be a currency anymore if you max out your spec, so I understand that you’re trying to get the most bang out of all the hero points, but this was really poorly designed.
I can’t imagine going through all this again on a new character. The only saving grace is that I’ll have my masteries unlocked, so I’ll be able to get them quicker, but I won’t be having nearly as much fun in WvW, or anywhere else for that matter because right now, it’s just a grind to get the kitten mastery unlocked. I don’t want to spend the next 30 or so hours of game play just to unlock my new elite spec.
I want to have paid for an expansion that has a new trait line, and enjoy the new content “with” that new trait line, to it’s fullest extent. Sure, we can get away without having every trait unlocked in PvE, but in WvW? No. In WvW, you have to have the most optimized traits and gear for your guild, team, group, whatever. This means, I have to do this, or play WvW on an old spec for who knows how long and use the WvW upgrade system, and for every character, before I can spec into the new elites for WvW.
Anyway, again, loving everything else about HoT (haven’t been able to do WvW yet, so jury’s out on that).
Blackgate Native. It takes tremendous strength and skill to pull a lever.
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I have to agree with this. So far, it is the only negative criticism I have with HoT. The new maps are gorgeous, and I’ve only just gotten to the 3rd. There are a ton of different events. Lots of new monsters with different fight mechanics and great looks. I like that there is a new progression system with masteries. Just so many great things to say.
But I was really holding off on buying this for a long time for fear that WvW will be ruined. The biggest selling point for me were the elite specs. It would breath a lot of fresh life into The classes I play.
However, I paid for these elite specs. I’ve spent maybe 20 hours so far on this and I’m not even half way through. Part of the issue is that one needs quite a bit of their masteries unlocked in order to access many of the hero points. This is fine and all for replayability of the map and progression in general, but really a drag just to play what I signed up for. Part of the issue is that hero points will not be a currency anymore if you max out your spec, so I understand that you’re trying to get the most bang out of all the hero points, but this was really poorly designed.
I can’t imagine going through all this again on a new character. The only saving grace is that I’ll have my masteries unlocked, so I’ll be able to get them quicker, but I won’t be having nearly as much fun in WvW, or anywhere else for that matter because right now, it’s just a grind to get the kitten mastery unlocked.
Anyway, again, loving everything else about HoT.
So your saying you want all the masteries mastered by the end of the expansion and the maps to be account wide so when you get done with the expansion you have nothing to do but say there’s no more content? I’m so confused as to what people want with a game. To beat it in a week??
Look at the bright side guys, the elementalists and most warriors won’t care at all.
Hehehe… That’s so true. I’m taking my time with the expansion and not rushing the hero points at all, it is actually quite enjoyable. But of course I don’t even care much about the tempest, so what do I know about what mains of other professions are going through?
I’ll just go through the heart of Maguuma with my main and once I have a good amount of masteries unlocked I will go with my necromancer and make him a reaper. My main stays an ele, maybe the next elite spec will be enticing enough to get me to spend my hero points.
Make it 500 hp, 400 is just a weird number. Heck make it 1000 hp, it’s an amazing feeling to be the only one in the game with a certain thing.
Make this person the CEO!!!
They should have front loaded the elite line with weapon and traits first and cheap enough to do with map completion then skills and cosmetics later in the line.
The needing hero points and then gating those behind mysteries that need both xp and points to unlock make it feel like I’m slogging thru. If I could have at least a filled out spec to use well I did everything else it would be much better
It was 2 vs 20 but its ok we got’em both!
And here’s yet another thread discussing this issue when there is a merged, larger thread holding all of people’s opinions about the system right near the top of the thread list.
I have to agree with this. So far, it is the only negative criticism I have with HoT. The new maps are gorgeous, and I’ve only just gotten to the 3rd. There are a ton of different events. Lots of new monsters with different fight mechanics and great looks. I like that there is a new progression system with masteries. Just so many great things to say.
But I was really holding off on buying this for a long time for fear that WvW will be ruined. The biggest selling point for me were the elite specs. It would breath a lot of fresh life into The classes I play.
However, I paid for these elite specs. I’ve spent maybe 20 hours so far on this and I’m not even half way through. Part of the issue is that one needs quite a bit of their masteries unlocked in order to access many of the hero points. This is fine and all for replayability of the map and progression in general, but really a drag just to play what I signed up for. Part of the issue is that hero points will not be a currency anymore if you max out your spec, so I understand that you’re trying to get the most bang out of all the hero points, but this was really poorly designed.
I can’t imagine going through all this again on a new character. The only saving grace is that I’ll have my masteries unlocked, so I’ll be able to get them quicker, but I won’t be having nearly as much fun in WvW, or anywhere else for that matter because right now, it’s just a grind to get the kitten mastery unlocked.
Anyway, again, loving everything else about HoT.
So your saying you want all the masteries mastered by the end of the expansion and the maps to be account wide so when you get done with the expansion you have nothing to do but say there’s no more content? I’m so confused as to what people want with a game. To beat it in a week??
What I’m saying is I want to play all this new content with my elite spec right out of the box. I’d love to really start going after all the different things to do for my precurosr, with my elite spec, but I can’t cause I have to grind the kitten out of the new maps in order to unlock my elite…. on one character. I’d love to WvW with my elite spec, but I can’t, cause I have to grind the kitten out of the new maps… for every character.
I hate rushing through new content. I like to savor it, explore, talk to npcs. But I don’t want to waste too much time because I’m in a hurry to unlock the god kitten elite spec.
Blackgate Native. It takes tremendous strength and skill to pull a lever.
So your saying you want all the masteries mastered by the end of the expansion and the maps to be account wide so when you get done with the expansion you have nothing to do but say there’s no more content? I’m so confused as to what people want with a game. To beat it in a week??
He’s not saying masteries shouldn’t take a long time to get but that since they do take a long time to get specialization points shouldn’t be locked behind them. It’s like people don’t get this distinction, masteries being a grind is fine, specializations being a grind and also locked behind the mastery grind is not!
Like you want to unlock the specializations after you done the expansion content, what’s the point of getting a new class by the time you are done with the game rather than to enjoy the game with?
The masteries that are required to complete the story or to complete the content of HoT should not be a grind. The Tyria masteries and fluff masteries? They can remain as is.
So you want to be handed everything correct? That’s what ur asking for? Cause that’s what it sounds like.
Yes, he paid for the elite spec. Keep your sarcasm to yourself.
By that logic you could say you paid for a level 80 character when you bought the game, and are justified in complaining when you dont get it on the first day.
Do we get enough hero points for the full spec from completing all hero points challenges, or is there another way? I feel like thats not enough if its 1 point each for them
It’s 10 points per hero point challenge in the new maps… but you have to spend hours leveling your masteries to gain access to most of the challenges AND a lot of them are pretty difficult to even locate in the first place.
OMG HOURS! I have to spend HOURS!
Why wont they think of the children? WHYYYY.
GDMNT but kids are entitled these days. You guys would never have lasted a week in the original EQ.
All of the grind to get my elite spec has completely sucked the fun out of this game for me. I used to really enjoy running fractals, dungeons and pvp. Now the fractal/dungeon part is gone for me because I don’t want to spend hours and hours farming 400 hero points and masteries. We paid for this game, which included the elite specs. They should be no more hero points than any other trait line. 400 points to unlock one line, wtf Anet? Only a matter of time before PvP gets boring too and I will have nothing else to balance the game with.
So you want to be handed everything correct? That’s what ur asking for? Cause that’s what it sounds like.
Nice strawman fallacy.
He never said he wanted everything handed to him, he said the amount of work required to get the Espec is ridiculous, which it is. Most people knew that they had to earn the specs, but the sheer amount of hours this will take was NOT advertised.
The fact that legendaries will take a long time to create WAS advertised.
If the Espec had required a total of, say, 200 HPs to unlock, that would still require an amount of work and mastery gain but it would be much more fair than what is currently required.
Your right. Let’s just get everything at launch right away. It’s only fair cause that’s what we “paid” for. Yeah I change my mind. I to want to throw a fit because the game is making me work towards something rather than mindlessly running around the silverwastes all day. You changed my opinion completely. Thanks man! :/
He never said he wanted everything handed to him. Now you are just putting words in his mouth and you sound like a fanboy.
Do we get enough hero points for the full spec from completing all hero points challenges, or is there another way? I feel like thats not enough if its 1 point each for them
It’s 10 points per hero point challenge in the new maps… but you have to spend hours leveling your masteries to gain access to most of the challenges AND a lot of them are pretty difficult to even locate in the first place.
OMG HOURS! I have to spend HOURS!
Why wont they think of the children? WHYYYY.
GDMNT but kids are entitled these days. You guys would never have lasted a week in the original EQ.
We didn’t buy EQ, we bought HoT. Anet has made clear many times over and over that grinding out crap was not one of their core philosophies. This expansion completely contradicts that.
This is saddly NPE v2. It’s bad and I can’t push myself to grind anymore like 200 levels. (feel sorry for those with 10+ more alts)
Hope they make Tomes of knowledge giving us Hero points.
The problem is Devs doesnt realize that some players has multiple characters that they frequently play…
After all this isnt the first time they do something like this…
Now… can you stop doing it ANet and fix this?
400HP for elite spec is ridiculous…
Since players are left with 2 choices….
1. Grind boringly for map completion, then struggle to get 20 Jungle Challenges (where 80% are Mastery gated)
2. or do 100% completion of Jungle Challenges, … with that distance and few and far Waypoints
Suggestion is simple, reduce HP requirement down to 200.
Sorry, everyone is just spoiled. You’re use to insta leveling a bunch of toons without any work required. Now that you cant tome or EoTM your way to something, you’re mad.
It’s not even that much work. Once you get all your masteries an reach the hero points you need, it’s pretty much a breeze with the rest of your characters.
Because you have 20+ alts with 3% map completion each, isn’t a reason for anet to lower the required hero points.
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