Guild Wars 2

Technically they are available in-game, just earn gold and covert to gems. Most other games let you convert bought currency (gems) to game currency (gold) but not the other way around.

And regarding the transmutation charges, you shouldn’t ever need to buy any. Map completing a capital city always rewards them, and other maps have a high chance.

“It’s silly enough that we have to have and buy transmutation charges just to change one item, "

I’ve never bought even one T charge and I have around 80 right now. Do your PvP dailies, either real sPvP or use the PvE friendly daily rooms, and you’ll get T charges on a regular basis from the reward tracks. Or explore cities as those reward one T charge each. If you have a char slot available for temporary chars such as key runners you can make and delete chars just for that.

Also if you log in daily you get free transmutations as well, without PvP or exploring….

They bring back skins to the gem store all the time. If the ones you want aren’t there right now, just wait and they’ll be back eventually.

“they are rarely if ever the skins that have been unavailable for months if not years now.”

What skins have been unavailable for years?

“I was at the devs office I’d just write in the code, make it live, and be done with it. No idea why they aren’t putting them in other than to irritate their players.”

Just because you can’t think of reasons why a store would have things available occasionally rather than continuously doesn’t mean that the only possible reason is to irritate players. If it was there all the time people can put off buying because they know there is no rush. An item appearing after being gone fuels purchases. An store where the items rarely change is a store where also people stop checking what’s on there. If they aren’t checking the store, they forget it’s there and again, the business loses sales.

Well from this thread I would say mask of the wanderer

How often do you use TC’s? To me it’s just one of those things that accumulate when I’m doing other things; e.g. map completing for a gift of exploration or BL chest keys. So far I’m approaching 200. Granted, I don’t change appearances often, maybe a complete overhaul once a year for each of my 3 mains and sporadic minor changes on my alts.

The only time I bought them was when I bought Transmution Crystals because that was the only way to change the appearance of level 80 items.

Also remember, some skins have a single use that doesn’t require a TC. I think all the gem store skins fall in that category.
Edit: Forgot to include the Zenith weapons skins. They are unlimited use without TC’s. I put them on weapons I don’t particularly care about, yet don’t want to look like complete crap.

Cynova.7406:

Just a flesh wound.3589:

“they are rarely if ever the skins that have been unavailable for months if not years now.”

What skins have been unavailable for years?

“I was at the devs office I’d just write in the code, make it live, and be done with it. No idea why they aren’t putting them in other than to irritate their players.”

Just because you can’t think of reasons why a store would have things available occasionally rather than continuously doesn’t mean that the only possible reason is to irritate players. If it was there all the time people can put off buying because they know there is no rush. An item appearing after being gone fuels purchases. An store where the items rarely change is a store where also people stop checking what’s on there. If they aren’t checking the store, they forget it’s there and again, the business loses sales.

I’m just assuming on how long some of these items have been unavailable for. I didn’t start looking for some of them until a few months ago, but I’ve been waiting for the Mask Of The Wanderer since last Christmas 2015. If it was available it probably was for a day at the most and I may have missed it. But a day out of a year… it’s like trying to find a needle in a haystack when trying to be around for a sale like that.

I can think of many reasons why the store is holding back items. I just can’t think of any that aren’t ridiculous and actually less-effective ways to make profit. Because all they are achieving with this method, IS irritating players looking for these items.

The problem is that most of the items are not available occasionally. When was the last time you saw Strider’s Armor or Mask Of The Wanderer? I can understand the appeal method of holding back items and making them eventful and limited releases. They do that in other businesses. But it’s usually seasonal. If they told me one of these items was coming back next Christmas I would save for it and plan to get it at that time. They could do expected surge sales. It would probably be even more profitable if people could expect and save for it. Not surprised randomly after they just exhausted all their expenses on something else not knowing these items were coming out. But when their is no date to expect and no hint of them even thinking about putting the item back on the market, and it hasn’t been seen available in so long, that is when it becomes ridiculous. At that point, take it out of the wardrobe so I don’t have to be reminded of how there is an item listed that I cannot do anything to get.

They are literally making no money on these unavailable items. They could be if they put them out. I’d buy them.

If they tell in advance people can just slowly do gold to gem and they dont gain any new money mate.

The short sales make alot of people impulse buy and drain more gold from the economy since a crap ton of people buy gems with gold.

The OP seems to be saying that they want to change appearance often, but they don’t want to pay extra for the privilege. They are also saying that they want everything ever released in the gem shop to be always available.

It’s reasonable to want that. However, it’s equally reasonable for ANet to charge for transmutation and to use artificial scarcity to bump sales of gems — they are, after all, a money-making business.

Transmutation Charges are available for no cost from:

• Daily Login (3 per 28 days)
• Map Completion, including Rata Sum (which takes 20-30 minutes the first time and under 10 for experienced fashionistas).
• WvW & PvP reward tracks (1-4 per track)
• Fractals (via the occasional Chest of BL Goods)
• Various achievements and achievement chest rewards

Cynova.7406:

Tiefsee.3647:

Also if you log in daily you get free transmutations as well, without PvP or exploring….

This is incorrect. You have a very small chance of getting them with black lion packages, but mostly you will get merchant charges, zommoros stones.

Uhm i didn’t say anything about black lion chests at all, it’s the daily revard – you know, that stuff you get when you log in once per day…

Cynova.7406:

Tiefsee.3647:

Cynova.7406:

Tiefsee.3647:

Also if you log in daily you get free transmutations as well, without PvP or exploring….

This is incorrect. You have a very small chance of getting them with black lion packages, but mostly you will get merchant charges, zommoros stones.

Uhm i didn’t say anything about black lion chests at all, it’s the daily revard – you know, that stuff you get when you log in once per day…

You are talking about the 3 you get on the 26th reward? The 3 whole TC’s you get in a month? Man are they generous. Thanks for pointing this out to me! The transmutation/skin system is completely fixed now! ;D

3 for free for logging in 26 days. in those 26 days, it’s entirely possible to have made 52 gold, at a 2 gold a day just for doing dailies.. that means at 40g conversion from OP math to gems, thats 5 transmutation charges more there for 8. which is enough for a set of armor and 3 weapons

Now this is also ONLY using the money from daily rewards! Passive playing will get you more. You want to change looks, just spend a bit of gold.

And people who dont see an issue with said system are perfectly ok to come here and say so.

It might not be a big enough click of the game population that agree with you to be worth the cost the rewamping of the system would cost.

Cynova.7406:

Sorin Noroku.5342:

Cynova.7406:

Tiefsee.3647:

Cynova.7406:

Tiefsee.3647:

Also if you log in daily you get free transmutations as well, without PvP or exploring….

This is incorrect. You have a very small chance of getting them with black lion packages, but mostly you will get merchant charges, zommoros stones.

Uhm i didn’t say anything about black lion chests at all, it’s the daily revard – you know, that stuff you get when you log in once per day…

You are talking about the 3 you get on the 26th reward? The 3 whole TC’s you get in a month? Man are they generous. Thanks for pointing this out to me! The transmutation/skin system is completely fixed now! ;D

3 for free for logging in 26 days. in those 26 days, it’s entirely possible to have made 52 gold, at a 2 gold a day just for doing dailies.. that means at 40g conversion from OP math to gems, thats 5 transmutation charges more there for 8. which is enough for a set of armor and 3 weapons

Now this is also ONLY using the money from daily rewards! Passive playing will get you more. You want to change looks, just spend a bit of gold.

Why can’t some of you get it? The point isn’t how to get transmutation charges. It’s about the ridiculousness of how they are acquired and the fact that they are even needed at all. Don’t you think that 40g could be better spent on exotic items or towards an ascended item or legendary instead of simply changing the look to a skin you have already done the work and spent the money for? Please stop trying to tell me ways in which to get TC’s.

Instead of most of you reciting info you read off GW 2 wiki to a GW 2 vet and carelessly defending the flaws of the game, why not help discuss how it can be improved so the devs have something to work with if they decide to fix issues like this one day? It’s responses like this that legitamize the weak points and keep the quality of the game where it’s at instead if fixing the real issues it has. If you don’t see a problem with this system, then keep playing it. This thread is meant for those that are aware of and interested in eliminating the various issues in the game.
Like I said, this game is too good to have a redundant system with something as simple as aesthetic customization.

There are better ways to make profits without irritating players that just want to change the look of their items.

The TC are perfect for people like me who can really only get a few gold a day. I would either have to throw one item around a bunch just to keep my volcanus, or I can spend those 40 gold coins and make another weapon look like it. The system is amazing! The only thing I’m reading now is someone who’s sad they can’t get the gemstore skins from the gemstore whenever they want. Stores of all kinds need to be able to cycle things around, or finding new stuff will be a pain, or pushing new skins would be a pain. It’s a business. As for the gold going towards exotic items, I’m going to assume you mean vanity skinned items, as most exotic gear stats are obtainable from dungeons for free. Also those as drops, but then it’s RNG and that’s not reliable.

What I’m seeing as well is someone that doesn’t want to part with 40g to change 5 things’ skins. That’s <10g a skin change, and a decent price to me, not only that but a low one for someone like myself who’s always broke!

That is unless you’re claiming that all skins once unlocked should be applyable to anything for free. That’s a rediculous thing to ask for, don’tchathink? You have a want, something that’s not really needed actually and is only for fashion/looks, why not work for it, like the ones who have to work to get the original unlock? After all, once you have the stats, the looks really don’t matter. Now you need to work for the look like you worked for the stats.

Going by this user’s page, it looks like the Mask of the Wanderer last appeared six months ago in the store. It wouldn’t surprise me to see it again for the holidays. Keep an eye on the sales, and best of luck.

Have you left your requests in the sticky thread?

Let me try another approach.

I don’t understand why the OP keeps insisting that the wardrobe system is inherently flawed and maybe they or someone else can explain why that is. Here’s how I see it:

• I can use any unlocked skin as often as I like, with the limitation that I need to have transmutation charges in my wallet.
• I can earn as many charges as I care to, without spending any gold, although that’s an option if I don’t want to earn them.

The only issue I see is that I can’t save a look and re-apply it later (not that I typically want to).

What huge flaw am I missing? What is it that I should be able to do instead?

Coming from games who let you change your look for free, store different looks so you can one-click for whichever “outfit” you are in the mood to wear that day, and have all store items always available, I have to say I find GW’s wardrobe system pretty unpalatable.

You are not alone OP.

Perhaps, the OP can suggest to ArenaNet in what way they shall replace the lost earnings from the sale of Transmutation Charges if said Charges are removed. That might be something the Devs would be interested in.

Nikal.4921:

Coming from games who let you change your look for free, store different looks so you can one-click for whichever “outfit” you are in the mood to wear that day, and have all store items always available, I have to say I find GW’s wardrobe system pretty unpalatable.

You are not alone OP.

See this is one of the things I saw that the OP was complaining about. That they cannot re-apply past skins for free. The other thing I saw them complain about is “It’s in the wardrobe, so we should be able to get it more often/always”. I’d like to say two words to that, “Scythe Skin”. It was available like once, and never again. Yet it’s in the wardrobe. I have to spend almost as much gold as a legendary for one.

Also, OP, please fix that post. Poor Tiefsee didn’t say those, that was me.

Yes, while it’s not necessary for looks to be part of the game, I know many people enjoy those looks. However, for those that do, they work just as hard for the perfect matching armor pieces as those that work for the stats. The thing is, they’re really optional. If you want that look/stat, work for it. Don’t complain that you just can’t change you look at will.

I have a suggestion, for Nikal. Try keeping sepperate sets of armor. Swap them out like clothes. My Mesmer has 2 sets and each is a different look. Sure it takes more space, but it’s helpful for when I want to be part of the Toxic Alliance and when I want to look like a casual Sylvari exploring the world, without spending tons on transmutation charges.

@OP

You can get a lot of Transmutation charges for absolutely free just pop into PvP or WvW and boom after a few reward tracks you can always change without worrying if you do that every so often, I change my look almost weekly between 4-5 characters and never have to worry about charges I think I am still around 190ish and never spent a single copper. Just play the game and you will get them also the daily log in rewards or you can always leave a chat slot free for a charge farmer crest toon clear all the easy starter cities delete character repeat

@BlaqueFire.5678 OP doesn’t want to go into another play mode to earn those is what they mean.

@Cynova.7406 I fixed the “change change” XD my mistake! Also, I think poor wording is being the culprit here mate!

What I mean is that, if you play the game for looks, thats fine! Work for the charges the same way those who play for armor stat work for the stats! For those who play for stats, armor look isn’t needed. For those who play for looks, stats isn’t needed.

That’s what I mean, though armor looks and Fashion Wars 2 is still there. However, the way you worded the first couple of posts implies you’re wanting it easier to apply new skins to existing armor, as in almost like you want unlimited Transmutation Charges. Now you’re seeming to want an easier way to earn new skins that come from the BLTC? Example being Viper’s or say Phoenix? If this is true, then the BLTC armor would have less meaning later on. Games often put those exclusive looks in harder to get areas. As for playing in areas/hearts/running around and saving currency, they are! They’re saving actual gold to convert to gems. So that system is there. I believe it’s currently around 200g for 800 gems?

Cynova.7406:

BlaqueFyre.5678:

@OP

You can get a lot of Transmutation charges for absolutely free just pop into PvP or WvW and boom after a few reward tracks you can always change without worrying if you do that every so often, I change my look almost weekly between 4-5 characters and never have to worry about charges I think I am still around 190ish and never spent a single copper. Just play the game and you will get them also the daily log in rewards or you can always leave a chat slot free for a charge farmer crest toon clear all the easy starter cities delete character repeat

Heh… Nice trollin there BlaqueFyre!

And no they are not free. Anything that costs you time is not free. Not using gold does not equal free contrary to common misconception.

Thank you sir and I will see you in PvP with my troll mortar engineer.

Sure it is not free, but they are the only trash (shards of glory, thombs of knowledge) that’s at least usefull and i won’t mind getting more

Cynova.7406:

BlaqueFyre.5678:

@OP

You can get a lot of Transmutation charges for absolutely free just pop into PvP or WvW and boom after a few reward tracks you can always change without worrying if you do that every so often, I change my look almost weekly between 4-5 characters and never have to worry about charges I think I am still around 190ish and never spent a single copper. Just play the game and you will get them also the daily log in rewards or you can always leave a chat slot free for a charge farmer crest toon clear all the easy starter cities delete character repeat

Heh… Nice trollin there BlaqueFyre!

And no they are not free. Anything that costs you time is not free. Not using gold does not equal free contrary to common misconception.

Thank you sir and I will see you in PvP with my troll mortar engineer.

The charges are 100% free to me, I am not in PvP for the Charges they come naturally for playing the gamemode I like, I am there to improve my skill and achieve different rewards the charges are completely tertiary and inconsequential.

In all Honesty you will have to play the game like everyone else to get the charges and have them build up, it may seem like a burden to you since you only care for the looks but doesn’t change the fact that everyone needs to farm charges if they want to change their looks especially if they do it frequently, it’s not an issue because most people get them as a part of all game modes they enjoy without thinking about them.

Personally I agree with you that the acquisition of charges isn’t balanced but, imo, it’s not going to change.. The way I see it, charges are an enticement to do PvP. If they weren’t in the PvP reward tracks there’d be a loss less PvEers doing any level of PvP. By putting charges in the PvP reward tracks it brings up their participation numbers and makes PvP look better. Remove the charges or make them easy to get in PvE and suddenly PvP isn’t doing so well. So, asking ANet to change how charges are gained is asking them to go against their own interests.

Does anyone else think that this thread is really just a hidden attempt to insist on a subscription model?

Cynova.7406:

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Let me try another approach.

I don’t understand why the OP keeps insisting that the wardrobe system is inherently flawed and maybe they or someone else can explain why that is. Here’s how I see it:

• I can use any unlocked skin as often as I like, with the limitation that I need to have transmutation charges in my wallet.
• I can earn as many charges as I care to, without spending any gold, although that’s an option if I don’t want to earn them.

The only issue I see is that I can’t save a look and re-apply it later (not that I typically want to).

What huge flaw am I missing? What is it that I should be able to do instead?

So earning gold and spending it on TC’s means you didn’t earn the TC’s?

You Sir, are lost of logic and if you can’t see the flaw in the transmutation and wardrobe system even with multiple posts from me detailing it, then clearly you are not capable of comprehending. I don’t say that as an insult. I say that as an unfortunate fact.

Thanks for your time.

It’s up to you to convince others why the existing system needs to change. You haven’t been able to do that. Calling people names (directly or indirectly) doesn’t help your cause; it only distracts from whatever point you are trying to make.

So I’ll ask once again, please make an effort to explain, in different words than you have used before, why you think the system fails.

Cynova.7406:

Glint’s Gaze Mask. Mask Of The Wanderer. Fiery Phoenix Glider. Phalanx Armor. Ect…

Seriously… Why do we not have these available?

It’s silly enough that we have to have and buy transmutation charges just to change one item, but when the skins you want aren’t even available when you want them, it’s just ridiculous.

This game is way too good to have redundancies like this. I could have happily spent money on the skins that are currently (and have been for awhile) unavailable. By the time you do have them available I might not even be interested anymore. Why not take my money and make your players happy instead of irritating some of us and getting no profit?

Put the skins in the game. That’s all I’m asking. Get it done. Please. And thanks for all the wonderful work you do on the game as a whole.

Apparently there is some psychology reason why “anticipation” is better than just having the item around all the time. I understand it in the case of items you would buy more than 1 of, like Girl Scout cookies. Because you can’t buy them all the time, you might buy more than you normally would when they are available 1 time a year.

But you are only going to buy the Phoenix glider once. So why is it not available all the time? Not sure.

What I do know is that I end up going for a different look for my character. Then when the skin I wanted is on the store, I don’t want it anymore.

Cynova.7406:

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Cynova.7406:

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Let me try another approach.

I don’t understand why the OP keeps insisting that the wardrobe system is inherently flawed and maybe they or someone else can explain why that is. Here’s how I see it:

• I can use any unlocked skin as often as I like, with the limitation that I need to have transmutation charges in my wallet.
• I can earn as many charges as I care to, without spending any gold, although that’s an option if I don’t want to earn them.

The only issue I see is that I can’t save a look and re-apply it later (not that I typically want to).

What huge flaw am I missing? What is it that I should be able to do instead?

So earning gold and spending it on TC’s means you didn’t earn the TC’s?

You Sir, are lost of logic and if you can’t see the flaw in the transmutation and wardrobe system even with multiple posts from me detailing it, then clearly you are not capable of comprehending. I don’t say that as an insult. I say that as an unfortunate fact.

Thanks for your time.

It’s up to you to convince others why the existing system needs to change. You haven’t been able to do that. Calling people names (directly or indirectly) doesn’t help your cause; it only distracts from whatever point you are trying to make.

So I’ll ask once again, please make an effort to explain, in different words than you have used before, why you think the system fails.

My posts didn’t go anywhere. Did you skip past the parts where I talked about the redundancy of trans charges? How time is wasted doing unrelated and unfun tasks just to change skins? Or how about my solution to that redundancy? Combining the skin and stat item desired through a zone specific system that allows you to earn your skinned items doing the events and tasks in that area? A system not much different than the one they have in new zones. Making your time better spent and connected to the skin you want when you play in PvE. How about the posts just a few page scrolls up? Aye… You didn’t bother to read now did yeh? Heh kids these days. No attention span.

I read everything you wrote. I understand why you dislike the mechanics of transmuation.

What I still don’t understand is why you think it’s fundamentally flawed. Transmutation charges are only redundant if you don’t agree that there’s a reason for requiring currency to be spent. The only people who seem to be spending extra time doing something they dislike to get more charges are folks that seem to want to change their looks frequently.

I change several characters seasonally and all whenever I finalize a new build; I still have plenty of charges and I haven’t gone out of my way to get them. Clearly, you are running out faster than I am — what is it you’re doing differently that makes that happen? Do you think that’s true of most people in the game? Or only a fraction?

In other words, you’ve explained why you don’t like the system. My point is that I don’t understand why you maintain that it’s fundamentally flawed.

It’s sufficient to say you want it changed, without trying to claim some higher principle is at stake.

Cynova.7406:

Called ppl names? What names were you called? Lol… Well if I did, here’s some tissues. You’re getting tears of salt on your keyboard.

Cynova.7406:

clearly you are not capable of comprehending.

Cynova.7406:

Heh kids these days. No attention span.

You are using the phrases to attack another poster, not because it furthers your own argument. It doesn’t become less insulting just because you insist otherwise.

Try to stick to the topic.

From what I’m seeing in this thread and have seen in others, I don’t see what income Anet would be losing by ditching the trans charge system. Clearly no one buys them from the store. All charging gems for them does is limit how often we can change our look- at least I know I limit how often since I’m not about to pay money or gold for them. If we didn’t have to pay for charges, I don’t see Anet being out much if anything, and we would be free of the current limitations. Wouldn’t the good will (and perhaps increase in store armor skin sales) be worth it?

Nikal.4921:

From what I’m seeing in this thread and have seen in others, I don’t see what income Anet would be losing by ditching the trans charge system. Clearly no one buys them from the store. All charging gems for them does is limit how often we can change our look- at least I know I limit how often since I’m not about to pay money or gold for them. If we didn’t have to pay for charges, I don’t see Anet being out much if anything, and we would be free of the current limitations. Wouldn’t the good will (and perhaps increase in store armor skin sales) be worth it?

Apparently the OP buys the charges.

“Most games allow you to change skins with very little currency or time. In this game you need to have about 40g to buy the smallest amount available which is 5 charges.”

Cynova.7406:

mtpelion.4562:

Does anyone else think that this thread is really just a hidden attempt to insist on a subscription model?

The fluffy kitten are you drinking? But if that gets the job done then so be it. I’ll shill out10 bucks a month if it gets me what I want. I spend more than that anyway and still can’t get my skins.

So… that’s a yes then?

These threads crop up all the time and always take the same route to the same destination:
1. “Look at how bad/inconvenient these microtransactions are.”
2. “Wouldn’t it be great if you didn’t have to do them and could just do everything all the time for free?”
3. “Imagine how great all that free stuff would be. It would totally be worth $X/month!”
4. “See, now everyone only has to pay a pittance each month and would have unlimited free access to all the things that used to be gated behind those horrible microtransactions!”

Fact is, this game was designed and advertised as one that uses cosmetic microtransactions in order to AVOID having a subscription or Pay2Win. What you are asking for is the opposite of why everyone came here in the first place. That is why you aren’t going to get many people agreeing with you… we came to Guild Wars to escape the very thing you are proposing.

It really is an inadequate system, considering the emphasis this game places on cosmetics. You have to put way too much thought into planning and designing your characters’ looks, instead of just throwing things together then sticking with the one you like for a while.

I get that the company needs to make money, but the transmutation system doesn’t really accommodate those of us who have multiple alts, and loads of skins we’d like to use.

My main gripes are these:

(a) Gemstore and BLTC skins should remain free-to-apply once unlocked. Why’s it only the Hall of Monuments and AP stuff that gets this treatment?

(b) Every skin I transmute onto a weapon or piece or armour should remain unlocked for that item, particularly Ascended gear. I can live with losing the skins if I ‘reset’ the item by changing stats.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Let me try another approach.

I don’t understand why the OP keeps insisting that the wardrobe system is inherently flawed and maybe they or someone else can explain why that is. Here’s how I see it:

• I can use any unlocked skin as often as I like, with the limitation that I need to have transmutation charges in my wallet.

• I can earn as many charges as I care to, without spending any gold, although that’s an option if I don’t want to earn them.

If I spend gems on a skin, why do I also have to spend something to use it? That’s like going to the store to purchase clothing and then also being taxed if I want to actually wear my clothing – EACH AND EVERY TIME I WANT TO CHANGE MY CLOTHES. Hopefully that is more clear for you. The fact that you get SOME of the “fee” for changing clothes for free only helps if you don’t want to change clothes very often.

Skins in the store should be sold with a “LIMITED USE” notification.

Jahroots.6791:

It really is an inadequate system, considering the emphasis this game places on cosmetics. You have to put way too much thought into planning and designing your characters’ looks, instead of just throwing things together then sticking with the one you like for a while.

I agree. Trying things on with Previews is better than no Preview but hardly worthwhile since you can’t also change the dye colors in Preview. It would be so much better if you could Preview both.

And you should be able to actually apply skins whenever you want once you have acquired them.

Djinn.9245:

Jahroots.6791:

It really is an inadequate system, considering the emphasis this game places on cosmetics. You have to put way too much thought into planning and designing your characters’ looks, instead of just throwing things together then sticking with the one you like for a while.

I agree. Trying things on with Previews is better than no Preview but hardly worthwhile since you can’t also change the dye colors in Preview. It would be so much better if you could Preview both.

And you should be able to actually apply skins whenever you want once you have acquired them.

You can preview Dyes as well in the preview panel…..

Cynova.7406:

I however, prefer to have my time spent well on this game. And a game is meant to be fun. If you can explain to me how grinding or running around to earn trans charges is more fun than doing a zone, earning credits there, buying exotics with the skin you want, and being able to select the stats for that item, then I shall kneel and claim GW 2’s wardrobe system is utterly perfect.

Until then, I will assume you have all conceded that this system is rubbish and a better one does not lose you anything, but benefits us all.

As you’re the person that is claiming something isn’t good, you need to provide reasons as to why it is good, not us defending it to change your mind. You still haven’t said why that is not a good enough way to earn charges. Or why they should keep the items on the BLTC for longer.

When someone wants something for the game, so they can play it, they need to put in some work. You want to RP with that nice shoulder skin from orr? Run a character to orr to buy it. You want to have the bladed gauntlet from VB? Go get the airship parts. You want to convert your bladed gauntlets to a second set of chaos gloves? Go map complete a city to get a charge. It’s that simple.

Using your idea would cause people to abandon the higher level maps since having all three trait lines would make farming the lower level maps easier. If the lower level maps’ currency could buy the same thing as the airship parts. This isn’t a fix, this is you complaining that something is too difficult/too inconvenient for you to get.

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Djinn.9245:

Jahroots.6791:

It really is an inadequate system, considering the emphasis this game places on cosmetics. You have to put way too much thought into planning and designing your characters’ looks, instead of just throwing things together then sticking with the one you like for a while.

I agree. Trying things on with Previews is better than no Preview but hardly worthwhile since you can’t also change the dye colors in Preview. It would be so much better if you could Preview both.

And you should be able to actually apply skins whenever you want once you have acquired them.

You can preview Dyes as well in the preview panel…..

You can Preview a skin and then add dyes to it? How?

Sorin Noroku.5342:

As you’re the person that is claiming something isn’t good, you need to provide reasons as to why it is good

This is not true. If you go to a restaurant and your food is not good, it is not up to you to explain to the chef exactly why it isn’t good.

Djinn.9245:

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Djinn.9245:

Jahroots.6791:

It really is an inadequate system, considering the emphasis this game places on cosmetics. You have to put way too much thought into planning and designing your characters’ looks, instead of just throwing things together then sticking with the one you like for a while.

I agree. Trying things on with Previews is better than no Preview but hardly worthwhile since you can’t also change the dye colors in Preview. It would be so much better if you could Preview both.

And you should be able to actually apply skins whenever you want once you have acquired them.

You can preview Dyes as well in the preview panel…..

You can Preview a skin and then add dyes to it? How?

It’s clumsy, and not accurate as to what you’ll actually see but you can get an idea as to how different colors look by going to the trading post, finding the dyes you want and hitting preview.

Each preview panel has 4 dye slots and you can add dyes to those slots one by one that way. If you delete one from the panel and preview a different dye it will go in the empty slot.

Djinn.9245:

You can Preview a skin and then add dyes to it? How?

Just apply the skin without spending the TC’s in your Hero panel wardrobe (it will have that little yellow “cancel” cross in the corner of the icon). Then go to your dye section and dye away. The only annoyance I’ve encountered is that the new dye selection doesn’t “stick” if you decide to then spend the TC’s to make the change permanent.

I think this only works for skins you’ve already unlocked. If you haven’t unlocked the skin, go with what Just a flesh wound said.

Cynova.7406:

It’s my idea I am trying to push and it is the opposing viewpoints that must back up their logic for opposing my idea at all.

You’re proposing a massive change to the system: it’s up to you to convince ANet it’s necessary. Several people have tried to point out that you haven’t established that there’s a big issue affecting a big enough group of people to make it worth the time to move this up on their ever-growing to-do list.

Worse, you go out of your way to comment on the people disagreeing with you, instead of focusing your own limited time on helping them understand why your idea would make things better, so much better that it would be worth ANet devoting resources to making it happen.

I really am sorry that you don’t like the current system — even if ANet agreed with you today, it would be at least 9-18 months before they could implement it.

Cynova.7406:

It’s like the choice between fun and boring.

No, I’m saying the current system already is fun. What are you proposing that would make it more fun and justify ANet’s time?

I don’t have to defend the current system because it is the current system; it’s up to advocates for change to explain why change is necessary.

Djinn.9245:

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Djinn.9245:

Jahroots.6791:

It really is an inadequate system, considering the emphasis this game places on cosmetics. You have to put way too much thought into planning and designing your characters’ looks, instead of just throwing things together then sticking with the one you like for a while.

I agree. Trying things on with Previews is better than no Preview but hardly worthwhile since you can’t also change the dye colors in Preview. It would be so much better if you could Preview both.

And you should be able to actually apply skins whenever you want once you have acquired them.

You can preview Dyes as well in the preview panel…..

You can Preview a skin and then add dyes to it? How?

As Just a Flesh Wound and onevstheworld stated

Step one start previewing the armor combo you want

Step two open BLTP

Step three right click preview whatever Dyes you want

And adjust them in the four slots there,

Be warned the four slots correspond to the actual dye channels so it’s lock into certain portions depending on slot.

As illconceived said, even if they saw your post and was convinced by your argument you wouldn’t see a change towards a system you suggest for a very long time. It’s too intertwined in the gem store profits, the daily rewards, the map rewards and the PvP reward tracks for them to be removed or the frequency reduced from those without suitable replacements. They would also need a way to recover lost sales. Then there is the work needed to add them to the maps as you suggest, while at the same time they are working on new level 80 maps, Living Story, and the expansion as well as all the other projects that are in process. With deliberation and discussion time included my guess is you’d have a couple of years before you’d see a change.

If I needed Transmutation Charges (I don’t; I have hundreds just from playing the game), I would use the current maps’ currency (Gold) to exchange (to Gems) to acquire said Transmutation Charges. Only doing what I felt was ‘fun’ in said maps.

Sounds a bit like whatever the OP was proposing (I’m unclear with the whole stat-change part and what it has to do with changing gear’s looks, but….).

Problem solved. =)

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

If I needed Transmutation Charges (I don’t; I have hundreds just from playing the game), I would use the current maps’ currency (Gold) to exchange (to Gems) to acquire said Transmutation Charges. Only doing what I felt was ‘fun’ in said maps.

Sounds a bit like whatever the OP was proposing (I’m unclear with the whole stat-change part and what it has to do with changing gear’s looks, but….).

Problem solved. =)

I proposed the same thing, the OP claimed this was dumb to spend 40g for 5 uses, also that I was biased because I thought this already worked.

Cynova.7406:

Sorin Noroku.5342:

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

If I needed Transmutation Charges (I don’t; I have hundreds just from playing the game), I would use the current maps’ currency (Gold) to exchange (to Gems) to acquire said Transmutation Charges. Only doing what I felt was ‘fun’ in said maps.

Sounds a bit like whatever the OP was proposing (I’m unclear with the whole stat-change part and what it has to do with changing gear’s looks, but….).

Problem solved. =)

I proposed the same thing, the OP claimed this was dumb to spend 40g for 5 uses, also that I was biased because I thought this already worked.

Quit twistin’. You know why you are biased. Shame.

Sorin Noroku.5342:“Now this is also ONLY using the money from daily rewards! Passive playing will get you more. You want to change looks, just spend a bit of gold.”

Sorin Noroku.5342:“As for playing in areas/hearts/running around and saving currency, they are! They’re saving actual gold to convert to gems. So that system is there.”

Cynova.7406: “Don’t you think that 40g could be better spent on exotic items or towards an ascended item or legendary instead of simply changing the look to a skin”

The thing is, gold is a currency you earn by playing the game, literally doing pretty close to anything in it will get you gold. This means playing the game your way will get you currency you can then spend for TC to change the skins like you proposed.

However you want ANOTHER currency to get TC/skins. This is implying that spending gold to you is too inconvenient or that making gold is too difficult for you. Not biased, just think you’re complaining “things too hard for me”.

Sorin Noroku.5342:

Sorin Noroku.5342:“Now this is also ONLY using the money from daily rewards! Passive playing will get you more. You want to change looks, just spend a bit of gold.”

Sounds like you are saying that it is fine to purchase clothing and then have to pay a fee to actually wear that clothing. Doesn’t make sense to me.

Djinn.9245:

Sorin Noroku.5342:

Sorin Noroku.5342:“Now this is also ONLY using the money from daily rewards! Passive playing will get you more. You want to change looks, just spend a bit of gold.”

Sounds like you are saying that it is fine to purchase clothing and then have to pay a fee to actually wear that clothing. Doesn’t make sense to me.

Not quite exact. You buy clothing, you have the clothing. What a transmutation charge is is more correct to ANOTHER item of the SAME look. Like buying 2 of one shirt.

Bring back the Aviator sunglasses and all will be forgotten.

Cynova.7406:

Linken.6345:

And people who dont see an issue with said system are perfectly ok to come here and say so.

It might not be a big enough click of the game population that agree with you to be worth the cost the rewamping of the system would cost.

I’m sure they are. But why not add something contributive that can be of use, instead of repeating what the past users have said that the system is perfect and nothing is wrong?

If a better system was introduced, I can guarantee you the same people would be claiming the change was excellent and nothing need change, again. People go along with this because it’s what we have. Yet they don’t have any reasons for why the current system is superior to a better possible system. All it takes is a little intelligence and imagination.

What do you consider a better system?
Give more TC’s? Eliminate TC’s altogether and make skin changes for free?
It seems to me, and many others, that the system as is is fine. TC’s are abundant, and unless you are changing out your look multiple times a day on multiple characters, there should be no reason one shouldn’t have enough TC’s to get the perfect look they want.