Guild Wars 2

Season 2 ended with the Pact airship fleet being decimated. Heart of Thorns opens up immediately after. This means only hours, days at most, have passed in-game.

Today “The Mordrem Are Coming” was announced. https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/the-mordrem-are-coming/
Yay, looks like fun! BUT… when does this fit in the timeline? Was it before the Pact fleet’s destruction? After? Happened about the same time?

Probably at the same moment in time as when Lion’s Arch was restored.

Or concurrently with when the Pact made its advance on Mordremoth at the end of season 2.

I would say after or the same time.

Senario 1: The Pact Fleet flies into an ambush and Mordremoth concurrently launches a surprise attack, knowing that his biggest source of resistance will be destroyed and distracted.

Senario 2: Mordremoth is enraged after the attack against him launch by the Pact. After throughly destroying their fleet, he takes advantage of the situation to launch a counter attack before any kind of rescue or even defense can be mustered.

after the pact fleet being destroyed, and the lion’s arch rebuild, and before the events of HoT

Live events have always been in linear order in GW2, and in real (earth) time, with releases officially happening on the date they were released and stretching a questionable amount of time up until the next event or release which could be interpreted as a couple days or the entire stretch of time between events/releases.

PopeUrban.2578:

after the pact fleet being destroyed, and the lion’s arch rebuild, and before the events of HoT

Live events have always been in linear order in GW2, and in real (earth) time, with releases officially happening on the date they were released and stretching a questionable amount of time up until the next event or release which could be interpreted as a couple days or the entire stretch of time between events/releases.

The problem is that Anet has stated on the one hand that, as you say, time in tyria is synched with time in the real world, while Anet has stated on the other hand that HoT happens immediately after the destruction of the pact fleet. This creates a complicated situation, unless it took the pact fleet months to get from the Silverwastes to the jungle (i.e. the time between the ending of season 2 and the release of HoT) which seems highly unlikely. The events that are happening now, such as the rebuild of Lion’s Arch and the Modrem invasions are not even neccesary for creating a mess but they do make the mess even worse.

Diovid.9506:

PopeUrban.2578:

after the pact fleet being destroyed, and the lion’s arch rebuild, and before the events of HoT

Live events have always been in linear order in GW2, and in real (earth) time, with releases officially happening on the date they were released and stretching a questionable amount of time up until the next event or release which could be interpreted as a couple days or the entire stretch of time between events/releases.

The problem is that Anet has stated on the one hand that, as you say, time in tyria is synched with time in the real world, while Anet has stated on the other hand that HoT happens immediately after the destruction of the pact fleet. This creates a complicated situation, unless it took the pact fleet months to get from the Silverwastes to the jungle (i.e. the time between the ending of season 2 and the release of HoT) which seems highly unlikely. The events that are happening now, such as the rebuild of Lion’s Arch and the Modrem invasions are not even neccesary for creating a mess but they do make the mess even worse.

Good point

I suppose it’s possible that technically the destruction of the pact fleet hasn’t happenned yet though, right? As in the video that we got was a teaser which is technically the intro to HoT.

So I suppose this event takes place after the building of LA, but actually before the destruction of the fleet?

PopeUrban.2578:

Diovid.9506:

PopeUrban.2578:

after the pact fleet being destroyed, and the lion’s arch rebuild, and before the events of HoT

Live events have always been in linear order in GW2, and in real (earth) time, with releases officially happening on the date they were released and stretching a questionable amount of time up until the next event or release which could be interpreted as a couple days or the entire stretch of time between events/releases.

The problem is that Anet has stated on the one hand that, as you say, time in tyria is synched with time in the real world, while Anet has stated on the other hand that HoT happens immediately after the destruction of the pact fleet. This creates a complicated situation, unless it took the pact fleet months to get from the Silverwastes to the jungle (i.e. the time between the ending of season 2 and the release of HoT) which seems highly unlikely. The events that are happening now, such as the rebuild of Lion’s Arch and the Modrem invasions are not even neccesary for creating a mess but they do make the mess even worse.

Good point

I suppose it’s possible that technically the destruction of the pact fleet hasn’t happenned yet though, right? As in the video that we got was a teaser which is technically the intro to HoT.

So I suppose this event takes place after the building of LA, but actually before the destruction of the fleet?

Right but the fleet left during Point of no Return, thus, as I said, the pact would’ve traveled for months to get from the Silverwastes to the jungle, which also seems unlikely.

PopeUrban.2578:

I suppose it’s possible that technically the destruction of the pact fleet hasn’t happenned yet though, right? As in the video that we got was a teaser which is technically the intro to HoT.

As has been said, officially Season 2 ended with the Pact fleet’s destruction. The movie that played AFTER (the one narrated by Caithe, saying how things were going to hell) was a teaser for Heart of Thorns.

I agree that it makes more sense that over the past several months the Pact has been searching for Mordremoth (it’s a big jungle!), and the fleet hasn’t been knocked down yet. But that’s not what ANet has said, unless they decide to retcon it.

Diovid.9506:

PopeUrban.2578:

Diovid.9506:

PopeUrban.2578:

after the pact fleet being destroyed, and the lion’s arch rebuild, and before the events of HoT

Live events have always been in linear order in GW2, and in real (earth) time, with releases officially happening on the date they were released and stretching a questionable amount of time up until the next event or release which could be interpreted as a couple days or the entire stretch of time between events/releases.

The problem is that Anet has stated on the one hand that, as you say, time in tyria is synched with time in the real world, while Anet has stated on the other hand that HoT happens immediately after the destruction of the pact fleet. This creates a complicated situation, unless it took the pact fleet months to get from the Silverwastes to the jungle (i.e. the time between the ending of season 2 and the release of HoT) which seems highly unlikely. The events that are happening now, such as the rebuild of Lion’s Arch and the Modrem invasions are not even neccesary for creating a mess but they do make the mess even worse.

Good point

I suppose it’s possible that technically the destruction of the pact fleet hasn’t happenned yet though, right? As in the video that we got was a teaser which is technically the intro to HoT.

So I suppose this event takes place after the building of LA, but actually before the destruction of the fleet?

Right but the fleet left during Point of no Return, thus, as I said, the pact would’ve traveled for months to get from the Silverwastes to the jungle, which also seems unlikely.

As we know the time in between events/releases is intentionally muddy and open to interpretation. Another interpretation could be that point of no return actually took up until now to resolve.

Basically, it seems like when these things start seems a fixed point in time, but when these things are resolved is in a nebulous “some time after it started, and before the next thing started”

Like, it’s impossible to say exactly when Zhaitan was killed, we just know it was after he ros and the pact formed and set out, and before secrets of southsun.