Guild Wars 2

Whenever I go to that map nothing happens in there. I tried at different time, right after the reset, in the middle, etc. and nothing.

I looked for a group on lfg but also had no luck. No one does it anymore? How can I play that content?

I am using wiki: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Event_timers

But as you can see it is the same. I am also sorry to inform you that you are wrong, because Dragon’s Stand is empty at even start, in the middle and right before it finishes.

vove.2768:

I am using wiki: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Event_timers

But as you can see it is the same. I am also sorry to inform you that you are wrong, because Dragon’s Stand is empty at even start, in the middle and right before it finishes.

You can only join Dragon’s Stand at the start. In 1 hour and 30 mins the next DS will start. You should be there about 10-15 minutes earlier, open LFG and join any groups.

every waypoint is always contested in dragonstand, after you kill the dragon its not worth going back

Wolfer.4216:

every waypoint is always contested in dragonstand, after you kill the dragon its not worth going back

They waypoints unlock as you fight through the meta, so yea, if you warp in, you get on a dead map and all waypoints are contested

Every HoT map is basically a LFG map. If you don’t get into a populated map, your out of luck for 2 hours. One of the biggest gripes I have with HoT.

Dragon Stand is not empty, considering the fact that we just did it with a guild just a few days ago with many co-players.

You join and play an active map that way:

• new maps are created every 2 hours. Look into some timer website for your local time. For me, it is xx:30 every even hour, for example 20:30 for Central Europe.
• 10 minutes before the new meta-cycle starts (i.e. xx:20), go to the map and join a commander. Find him through the lfg tool.
• At exactly xx:30 everybody is downed and thrown to a new fresh map. Now join the commander in his map.
• As soon as the squad has joined the map, the commander will probably leave and 3 new squads should be built. This is the most difficult part: 2 other players must tag up as commander. Join one of the squads. All players should be distributed evenly on all 3 squads
• go to your commander, stick at him, and begin playing the events.
• in case you didn’t immediately find a map where 3 commanders tagged up after the new map was created, look in the lfg for a different map. Join one of the squad there. Your chances of success gets lower the more time elapses after the map started. xx:30-xx:35 is the best time, xx:40 gets difficult and after 00:45 you will probably not get a map any more that is populated enough.

vove.2768:

I am using wiki: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Event_timers

But as you can see it is the same. I am also sorry to inform you that you are wrong, because Dragon’s Stand is empty at even start, in the middle and right before it finishes.

I’ve beat in twice in two days in the middle of the US night, since I’m in Australia. If it’s always empty I most of soloed it.

Not sure why you can’t find groups, because I find them whevever it’s up and I want to do it.

VB and TD can sometimes be hit or miss, but Dragon Stand and AB have been rock solid for me.

I’ve had to run Dragon Stand because I needed crystalline ore to make Shooshado and that’s the only please you can get it.

BrotherBelial.3094:

Every HoT map is basically a LFG map. If you don’t get into a populated map, your out of luck for 2 hours. One of the biggest gripes I have with HoT.

+1,

Everyone is like oohhh no its not empty. You mean on the meta map when the event is going?

Please lets have a entire map dedicated to 1 chained event. and then lets do it for 2 other maps.

The boss at Anet was like brilliant!

Insert im the map song from dora the explora

vove.2768:

I am using wiki: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Event_timers

But as you can see it is the same. I am also sorry to inform you that you are wrong, because Dragon’s Stand is empty at even start, in the middle and right before it finishes.

Hmm. That’s funny. I haven’t had any issues. Show up as one map meta closes and a new cycle begins. DS is done regularly because lots of people need it and, unlike the other maps, there’s no point in trying to just show up for the boss event. You want to be there for the whole thing right from the start, and everyone (except you) knows it.

The problem…. OP goes into a map and expects it be running. Its an organized event. And like any event thats organized (Teq, shatterer, TT, and just about world boss that needs a secondary mechanic), the people who organize it arrive at least 5-15 minutes prior to the event to setup the groups.

I also call BS in that its never filled. Theres a LOT of events competing for player attention; and the only one thats guaranteed to have people is Tarir because of the Multi-map farm meta. Outside of that, the daily reward limits create a world boss rotation that starts at 0 UTC, and staggers throughout the day depending on when people wake up.

For instance, Teq happens at Reset, and is always organized because you can get the event done without having to wait. Triple Trouble doesn’t see much traffic because of its higher organization requirement, and is typically only run by 4 guilds roughly 3 times a week each. Octovine is organized, but enough Pugs understand the mechanics that its not difficult to get them coordinated. If the Daily achievements have either a world boss, or an event completer on a map with a world boss, those maps will always fill up during the world boss event to fill those achievements.

In all other instances, certain time zones will favor a certain boss/meta if they over lap. If Teq and Shatter occur at the same time (which they do for OCE primetime), most pugs will go to Teq due to it having more rewards. If Octo and Dragonstand overlap, Dragonstand will struggle to find people, as will KOJ due to the preparations needing almost half a map cycle before Chak for success.

If theres no taxi advertisements in LFG, then theres no organized maps. If you aren’t willing to do the organization, and understanding PUG schedules; then there is no excuse on your part.

They are not empty, they are done daily. I never have any problems to find a dragon’s stand map that is active.

What’s happening to you is:

1) The map is on a 2-hour timer, so if you arrive late (best to start looking for a map 15-20 min before the reset), you get thrown into an overflow aka empty map.

2) If you are too late, and join an lfg, there might be a chance the map is full and you cannot join it anymore, since the limited amount of players is reached. Hence why get thrown in an overflow.

Solution to all your troubles:

Check when the reset is due, and open lfg tool 15 min prior to that. Join a squad, and port to their map asap (cause if you wait too long it may be full again). Done.

/problem

For clarity, the DS “reset” is not the same as the daily game reset. When talking about DS reset players mean the two hour cycle others have described above.

Once you know if it is half past the even or half past the odd hour for you, that’s all you need to remember from now until the next time your time zone changes (for most of the US that will be in the spring). So when you get a hankering to do a full DS, check the clock. If one will be starting in 15 minutes or so, perfect. Head into the map and check LFG. Keep checking, also monitor Map chat for people organizing. Join a taxi squad, that makes a “seed” group for a full map and gives you a way in before it fills up. Then head to whichever lane you want to do, while watching Map to see if another lane really needs people.

That lane will likely be South

idk I can say empty one night i went in looked like ghost town i was just exploring the map(was still unexplored and new to me) this like 4am eastern then i glide round make it to near center of map ran into a zerg as large as any i’d see for a world boss I was actually kinda shocked cause of the time and fact rest of the map was crickets chirping lol. i’m still some what new to HoT side of gw2 i just got it when it was on sale couple weeks back so haven’t learnt all the meet ups timers etc so maybe i happened be around for that because i did run round with that zerg we eventually took on mr bad a** dragon and I got to beat it first time ever on the map (got all achievements for that boss aswell) lol good luck? maybe karma? all them resses coming back to me i guess?.

As for empty probably is before any large scale events no different than any other part of gw2 really. Only reason you see more activity on base gw2 side cause f2p and HoT is a B2P. Also time zones does effect population in any online game.

As this is a topic that comes up often, and one I struggled with in getting some of the game’s achievements, I need to say again that the setup portion of Dragon Stand needs an overhaul. It’s unnecessary to have the map on a two-hour rotation, but it could be fixed with a few simple tweaks.

Tweak #1: The map timer doesn’t start until the three camps have enough people to begin. That’s 12 people on a map. Without the massive taxi bombing that happens at map resets, we’d get much more participation going.

And that’s it. That’s the main adjustment that would need to be made.

“But what about multi-loots?” That’s possibly a bit easier to deal with than something like Tarir. Either, 1) the main loot at the end is restricted to those active during the Mouth fight, or 2) the map doesn’t let anyone in after the Mouth is defeated. The latter is possible in a way that it’s not for Tarir, since the map is nothing but the entire meta. The former is kinder to people who want to get in on a finished map for hero points and map exploration, but megaserver funneling ought to still filter them into newer maps.

The idea won’t discourage taxiing, and that’s okay, but it does make it so specific timing and taxiing isn’t required to do the map and meta.

As I have said at least twice on these forums, I have joined a DS squad early only to have most people join a different group and I’m stranded in a map that doesn’t have enough people.

The problem with DS is that at most times there are only enough people for 1 map, any “extra” people who can’t fit in that map will not be able to do the meta.

People will say “spam and you’ll get in”. Maybe sometimes, but I have spammed for 10 minutes straight and never got in.

What it comes down to is that this is not a great mechanic.

Actually, it is possible to join/rejoin a map if you are late or disconnected. Just join a friend who is on it and try to join tons and tons of times. In the end you are able to join (actually did that 2-3 times, it always worked).

The map is empty because of shockingly bad design. You really should not have to use unofficial website timers and a RL alarm clock just to queue up and participate in an open world meta. I’m hoping the devs have learned the lesson…

ProtoGunner.4953:

Actually, it is possible to join/rejoin a map if you are late or disconnected. Just join a friend who is on it and try to join tons and tons of times. In the end you are able to join (actually did that 2-3 times, it always worked).

But unfortunately this is a “work-around” for an issue that has been ongoing for over a year.

Why not simply make all way points open (after you discover just like the rest of the map) unless the event is going, then only open the way points that the groups have gotten to and re-opened?

That would allow travel around the map when the events are not going on. Just a thought…

Use LFG and join a squad. There are always groups running Dragon’s Stand. Every time I’ve went there, no matter when I went, I’ve always found a group. I’m on NA by the way. I’m sure EU is similar.

Vyrulisse.1246:

Use LFG and join a squad. There are always groups running Dragon’s Stand. Every time I’ve went there, no matter when I went, I’ve always found a group. I’m on NA by the way. I’m sure EU is similar.

I’m on NA and I disagree. I have tried to do DS a bunch of times and there is no squad or the map is full.

Djinn.9245:

Vyrulisse.1246:

Use LFG and join a squad. There are always groups running Dragon’s Stand. Every time I’ve went there, no matter when I went, I’ve always found a group. I’m on NA by the way. I’m sure EU is similar.

I’m on NA and I disagree. I have tried to do DS a bunch of times and there is no squad or the map is full.

Can confirm. First map reset after daily reset, and I still can’t pry my way in there on most days. Squads fill too easily and taxis bloat the map. The leftover map is a barren, unorganized wasteland.

MY question is why waste your time? Not really worth it unless you still the mastery stuff……

BrotherBelial.3094:

Every HoT map is basically a LFG map. If you don’t get into a populated map, your out of luck for 2 hours. One of the biggest gripes I have with HoT.

kdaddy.5431:

Everyone is like oohhh no its not empty. You mean on the meta map when the event is going?

Please lets have a entire map dedicated to 1 chained event. and then lets do it for 2 other maps.

The boss at Anet was like brilliant!

Djinn.9245:

As I have said at least twice on these forums, I have joined a DS squad early only to have most people join a different group and I’m stranded in a map that doesn’t have enough people.

The problem with DS is that at most times there are only enough people for 1 map, any “extra” people who can’t fit in that map will not be able to do the meta.

People will say “spam and you’ll get in”. Maybe sometimes, but I have spammed for 10 minutes straight and never got in.

What it comes down to is that this is not a great mechanic.

DoctorDing.5890:

The map is empty because of shockingly bad design. You really should not have to use unofficial website timers and a RL alarm clock just to queue up and participate in an open world meta. I’m hoping the devs have learned the lesson…

ALL of this. +10 if I could. Gating an entire map behind one big meta event was neither well designed nor fun. One of the biggest problems with HoT is that they forgot that one of the things that made GW2 great was that it encouraged grouping without forcing it in most cases. In the HoT zones, you need anywhere from a small party to an entire map to get most things done, and the coordination required can be problematic for some, especially during a meta event where if one lane/part screws up, everyone suffers for it.

Mylerian.9176:

MY question is why waste your time? Not really worth it unless you still the mastery stuff……

Map completion. Hero points. Mastery points, like you said. Certain weapons/skins that drop from there, like the boss weapons, or the Plated/Machined collections, which require you to go there twice for each Machined weapon, which you need for the specialization collections as well. All of that, gated behind a not fun meta event.

The map follows an event chain on a timer. Be there early, perhaps very early, before the event chain resets and use LFG to get into a populated map. Guilds may force a new map of their own, too.

Holiday events also decrease player count so please bear it.

TL;DR
When you enter the Dragon Stand you usually end up on an abandoned copy of the map. Use LFG to find a map with high population.
Don’t come too late, good maps fill up fast. check GW2 Timer (on the wiki) to see when new maps start

Mylerian.9176:

MY question is why waste your time? Not really worth it unless you still the mastery stuff……

Because it’s a fun map? I play it because I enjoy it. Don’t really care about the rewards honestly.

Vyrulisse.1246:

Mylerian.9176:

MY question is why waste your time? Not really worth it unless you still the mastery stuff……

Because it’s a fun map? I play it because I enjoy it. Don’t really care about the rewards honestly.

Or unless you need crystalline ore for HoT legendary weapons, or unless you need specific components for elite specialization ascended weapons, or maybe you just like the meta event and think it’s fun. My guild used to run a lot of dungeons, but this allows more of us to join, and it’s still more casual than a raid.