Why, oh why can we not have capes !

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Posted by: Just a flesh wound.3589

Just a flesh wound.3589

Anet’s first stand against capes was due to Graphical Clipping surrounding the Char’s tail.

Not with their tail. The charrs entire body when they get down to all fours, (AKA whenever they arent in combat and moving). The way their physics work in this game would make the cape(Assuming it would actually have physics) fall through the body of any body playing charr(again when they go down on all fours) unless they made it a static mesh that had no movement to it. Dont think anybody who plays charr would appreciate that at all. I also dont think anybody who wants capes wants them to just be a static mesh that hugs their character.

The Balthazar outfit cape isn’t that bad. It’s a cape that starts at the neck, is belted at the waist and hangs freely from the waist down. Allows for a version of a cape that doesn’t clip and can hold the guild emblem. It might be as good as it gets with current technology.

Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.

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Posted by: Dante.1763

Dante.1763

The Balthazar outfit cape isn’t that bad. It’s a cape that starts at the neck, is belted at the waist and hangs freely from the waist down. Allows for a version of a cape that doesn’t clip and can hold the guild emblem. It might be as good as it gets with current technology.

No it isnt that bad, and its one of the reasons i want it actually, aside from looking kick kitten on my charr! If it was capes like that, i would fully support them, but not capes like we had in GW1. They where boring, static meshes that offered very little customization if you in any sort of guild. They clipped all the time, and they swayed side to side horribly whenever the PC moved. (My opinion of course)

The pvp community reminds me of what Obi-kittenenobi describes Mos Eisley as from star wars.

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Posted by: skullmount.1758

skullmount.1758

Capes were rejected by Peter Fries

Peter Fries ?@Peter_Fries 21h21 hours ago

@CeleOOKIE @OneBigPear @HuntersInsight I was the guy who cancelled capes.

Peter Fries
?@Peter_Fries

@DragonSeasonCom @CeleOOKIE @OneBigPear @HuntersInsight Colin and everyone else wanted them, but I said no, not ever. ¯\(?)

Source- His Tweet (which he may or may not be being serious in, being the internet its hard to tell)

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Posted by: Brother Grimm.5176

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I’m guessing it’s purely an issue that they have been unable to make a decent looking cape fit all models and work properly on the lowest level machines that can run the game. Likely an indirect issue of still being anchored to DX9.

Again (for the couple dozenth time), WHY does this have ANYTHING to do with HoT?

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Posted by: silvermember.8941

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I’m guessing it’s purely an issue that they have been unable to make a decent looking cape fit all models and work properly on the lowest level machines that can run the game. Likely an indirect issue of still being anchored to DX9.

Again (for the couple dozenth time), WHY does this have ANYTHING to do with HoT?

Well to a lot of people HOT expansion is this magic expansion that will fix every single problem guild wars 2 has and will bring all the missing features players think guild wars 2 is lacking.

That is why all of these threads are popping up, because HOT is the messiah, the savior it will take them to this imaginary nonexistent promise land. It is everything.

Obviously, they will be extremely disappointed but let them dream for at least a few more months.

As u know im pro. ~Tomonobu Itagaki

This is an mmo forum, if someone isn’t whining chances are the game is dead.

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Posted by: Jaxom.7310

Jaxom.7310

I’m guessing it’s purely an issue that they have been unable to make a decent looking cape fit all models and work properly on the lowest level machines that can run the game. Likely an indirect issue of still being anchored to DX9.

Again (for the couple dozenth time), WHY does this have ANYTHING to do with HoT?

Well to a lot of people HOT expansion is this magic expansion that will fix every single problem guild wars 2 has and will bring all the missing features players think guild wars 2 is lacking.

That is why all of these threads are popping up, because HOT is the messiah, the savior it will take them to this imaginary nonexistent promise land. It is everything.

Obviously, they will be extremely disappointed but let them dream for at least a few more months.

a man can dream, a man can dream…

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Posted by: Hybarf Tics.2048

Hybarf Tics.2048

Closed beta goes first, beside your capes might be part of HOT.

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Posted by: Carlin Sanders.3587

Carlin Sanders.3587

I’m guessing it’s purely an issue that they have been unable to make a decent looking cape fit all models and work properly on the lowest level machines that can run the game. Likely an indirect issue of still being anchored to DX9.

Again (for the couple dozenth time), WHY does this have ANYTHING to do with HoT?

i know they asked the original GW1 team how they did capes (apparently they did it right but never talked) but i can imagine some of the hilarity in their own experiments.

I imagine a cape flapping around like a pigeon in hysterics trapped inside it being the result of one experiment.

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Posted by: Latinkuro.9615

Latinkuro.9615

I’m guessing it’s purely an issue that they have been unable to make a decent looking cape fit all models and work properly on the lowest level machines that can run the game. Likely an indirect issue of still being anchored to DX9.

Again (for the couple dozenth time), WHY does this have ANYTHING to do with HoT?

Well to a lot of people HOT expansion is this magic expansion that will fix every single problem guild wars 2 has and will bring all the missing features players think guild wars 2 is lacking.

That is why all of these threads are popping up, because HOT is the messiah, the savior it will take them to this imaginary nonexistent promise land. It is everything.

Obviously, they will be extremely disappointed but let them dream for at least a few more months.

WTH are you talking about ?

I’m simply curious as to why we can’t have capes three years into the game !
I’m not one of these cult followers that think an expansion will provide all of their dream features !!!

I take offense to your comparison.

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Posted by: Dante.1763

Dante.1763

WTH are you talking about ?

I’m simply curious as to why we can’t have capes three years into the game !
I’m not one of these cult followers that think an expansion will provide all of their dream features !!!

I take offense to your comparison.

Various explanations have been offered(especially the biggest one(where the cap falls through the charrs body), you just chose to ignore them and or called them not good enough for you. We answered your question. You didnt like the answer. shrugs im done here, no point in trying to have a conversation when the other side ignores your posts.

The pvp community reminds me of what Obi-kittenenobi describes Mos Eisley as from star wars.

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Posted by: glehmann.9586

glehmann.9586

If they dedicated resources to capes without first dealing with engineers’ hobosack issues, I think the engineers in this game would riot.

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Posted by: Leonhardt.8164

Leonhardt.8164

I’m an 8 year WoW veteran and having a cape to me is sort of…..generic
One of the biggest reasons i’ve switched to Gw2 was because of the unique back pieces, I was over whelmed when i learned we can wear thing other than capes, it was a breath of fresh air
I for one don’t really care about having capes or not

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Posted by: Red Jay.2516

Red Jay.2516

I miss GW1 style capes, they made me feel like a hero
http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/1/1a/Guild_Sword_of_Justice_Weihnachtscape.jpg

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Posted by: Zanshin.5379

Zanshin.5379

I’m simply curious as to why we can’t have capes three years into the game !

Clipping. Clipping. Clipping and clipping.
You want more reasons? CLIPPING.

As long as there is clipping with the current armors, you won’t see capes. And I doubt they will ever modify all the armors in the game just so they can add capes.

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Posted by: BladeNinja.4671

BladeNinja.4671

Clipping issues to the max. As much as we all want capes, imagine how freq you cape would collid with your char doing certain moves. And having on certain armor. Almost every armor in the game would have to be remade to fit with capes. As a ref: look up the Incredibles NO CAPES!!! video

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Posted by: iKeostuKen.2738

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Could just have racial capes. Charrs could just be a butt cape like the balthazar outfit.

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Posted by: Kantos.1730

Kantos.1730

Because, capes are stupid.

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Posted by: Leonhardt.8164

Leonhardt.8164

who cares? ive been a WoW veteran for 8 years and ive seen enough capes, its so generic, so boring, and so lame to beg for such a crappy thing to add, one of the biggest reasons ive switched from WoW to gw2 is because of the unique looking backpieces, its a breath of fresh air from the stupid capes

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Posted by: Silicato.4603

Silicato.4603

why can we not have capes?
Cause they are ugly, 0 movement, they look like a table on your back, and most important, they would hide your armor.
But dont get me wrong, i accept they introduce capes into the game. i just wont use them or pay for them, dont like them, dont want them XD

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Posted by: Latinkuro.9615

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I’m simply curious as to why we can’t have capes three years into the game !

Clipping. Clipping. Clipping and clipping.
You want more reasons? CLIPPING.

As long as there is clipping with the current armors, you won’t see capes. And I doubt they will ever modify all the armors in the game just so they can add capes.

ugh, I know they have always said the same thing clipping clipping blah blah blah.
I’m sick of hearing that excuse.

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Posted by: Wetpaw.3487

Wetpaw.3487

a good thing,

Ten Ton Hammer: Lastly, now that you’ve implemented Guild Halls and Guild versus Guild (sort of) can we expect a change of heart and the arrival of capes?

Colin: This isn’t really a “change of heart” kind of deal. I haven’t met anyone yet at ArenaNet who is against the concept of capes! It’s just that capes currently don’t work with our animation and armor system. Hopefully someday that can change – cause capes are awesome.

http://www.tentonhammer.com/interview/guild-wars-2-exclusive-interview-colin-johanson

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Posted by: Hybarf Tics.2048

Hybarf Tics.2048

Because this is not a Superman game.

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Posted by: ImTasty.2163

ImTasty.2163

I hope they DO bring back capes. Many fans myself included loved them… If you don’t like them you had the option to turn them off… that’s no reason that the rest of us can’t enjoy them in-game.

By that logic I don’t like greatswords so no one else should be allowed to use a greatsword. It’s just dumb if I don’t like a greatsword I don’t have to use one. No need to ruin it for everyone else.

/signed a 50/50 hom and gwamm GW1 player

That same logic can be used to keep capes out of games. “There are people who don’t like capes and resources should not be wasted making them. If you don’t like it then deal with it”

Same logic as you but from a different side.

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Posted by: nacario.9417

nacario.9417

why do you people think it has to be either or, this is not binary you know !
we can have both, you can have your back pieces which I’m sick off. and I can have my cape, there; choice is the name of the game. The more choices we have the better.

Stop being so negative.

Now this is quite funny. Read your post again and then remember the post you made in the dueling thread, where you so elegantly stated that the “last thing we need is dueling”, and you couldnt see it from their PoV. And here in this thread you are with your morale Oh the irony!

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Posted by: Brother Grimm.5176

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I’m guessing it’s purely an issue that they have been unable to make a decent looking cape fit all models and work properly on the lowest level machines that can run the game. Likely an indirect issue of still being anchored to DX9.

Again (for the couple dozenth time), WHY does this have ANYTHING to do with HoT?

i know they asked the original GW1 team how they did capes (apparently they did it right but never talked) but i can imagine some of the hilarity in their own experiments.

I imagine a cape flapping around like a pigeon in hysterics trapped inside it being the result of one experiment.

Original GW1 had to cover ONE race…..BIG difference in work with GW2 (especially since they can’t get Charr armor to not clip horribly when they are galloping….)

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Posted by: Latinkuro.9615

Latinkuro.9615

why do you people think it has to be either or, this is not binary you know !
we can have both, you can have your back pieces which I’m sick off. and I can have my cape, there; choice is the name of the game. The more choices we have the better.

Stop being so negative.

Now this is quite funny. Read your post again and then remember the post you made in the dueling thread, where you so elegantly stated that the “last thing we need is dueling”, and you couldnt see it from their PoV. And here in this thread you are with your morale Oh the irony!

Which is why I stated that dueling can be implemented as long as it is not in PVE world.

I’m against dueling that disturbs PVe but if it is out of the way somewhere wherever it may be I’ ok with it, see. I’m not saying do not implement it. I’m saying give it to them while not disturbing the PVE world immersion.

Here is my proof.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/Dueling/page/2#post4969106

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Posted by: Riku.4821

Riku.4821

The Balthazar Outfit, Ahar Heavy armor legs, T3 Norn Cultural heavy armor, and one more I believe all have butt capes.

I remember talking with Roy, I brought it up, a simple “oh boy/oh no..” response was given, it made my week.

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Posted by: Gaaroth.2567

Gaaroth.2567

Not again this thread >_>

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