Guild Wars 2

Smooth Penguin.5294:

The solution to people’s “silk” problem is simple. There are multiple ways to get it, without buying from the TP.

• Play WvW. You get a lot of loot drops from killing other players. Salvage the light armor drops and Discarded Garments.
• Use Karma to buy high level light armors, MF them, then salvage. Not the most cost-efficient method, but still doable
• PvE farm high level maps. Playing the game normally allows you to get drops that can be salvaged.

Using the methods above, you can get stacks of Silk per hour. Even more so if you have a portable Mystic Forge with you.

no, you do not get stacks per hour doing those things.

serenke.4806:

phys.7689:

serenke.4806:

There are no reliable ways to get cloth? I craft my damask every day (if i cannot be bothered to get the linen then i make the time-gated stuff only and worry about batch crafting damask on the weekend).

For wool, cotton and linen i use karma (buy shoes, MF, salvage, repeat). For silk you can either get champ bags from silverwastes but since i hate digging in the dirt, i usually do dungeons that give you lvl 70+ rare armor. 30 tokens per cloth headpiece, salvage… ecto and silk (sometimes you get gossamer, bleh).

Pretty sure the karma thing works with silk too, just that i never had problems acquiring it elsewhere so never tried to look for the appropriate merchants.

And to Severino, i don’t care if the majority of the population does not think of ways or looks for information how to get the goods they want and instead come complaining about it on the forums but if you do post, then get your facts straight.

you may have missed my question

how much silk can you get per hour of play without buying it?
i suppose you are saying you do it from dungeon run tokens, but that is an extremely small amount of silk per hour.
60 tokens is two pieces of gear; lets say that averages to 4 scraps. if you do a dungeon path in 4 minutes, that would be one scrap a minute, and you would need 300 minutes per day. which is 5 hours.

so whats your method?

While doing a dungeon with a level 80 char, i use roughly 75 salvages per 3 paths. A considerable percentage of that is also cloth based armor. So the token armor piece is just in addition to the drops you get while killing things.

how long does it take you do to do 3 paths that give you 75 salvages. a speed run would probably only give you like 10 -15 items, so i assume you are killing more bosses/enemies/taking longer.

You dont get stacks of silk doing any of the activities listed in this topic.
You cant posibly compare gathering a material that comes from salvaging random armor drops and a few other items to stuff that you can farm anyday, on a fixed location, with each character getting it’s own nodes.

serenke.4806:

It may be unfair that it requires more silk, but it’s a design choice, not broken.

This looks like if it’s a design choice, then, by definition, it can’t be broken.
Seriously? Devs ain’t humans right, they can’t possibly screw something up.

Fix fix what …I spend the majority of my time in WvW and so far 3 and half ascended sets

2 light 1 medium and half way a heavy.Those have been crafted with no special farming effort or purchases ..silk is not a problem the red one linen maybe I find the hardest .

Takes time a bit so what the inventory fills quite fast.

Personal experience does not refute facts.

The point made in this topic is that farming for any of the other armors is a lot faster/cheaper, let’s take a look at the available mats for deldrimor steel:

There’re 34 permanent rich nodes (10 iron + 6 platinum + 18 mithril) and a bazillion tree nodes that you can farm everyday, on fixed locations, with each character getting it’s own nodes.
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Iron_Ore_
10 rich nodes = 100-200 iron, that’s 500-1000 a day depending on how many characters you use, assuming the account doesn’t have extra slots
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Platinum_Ore_
6 rich nodes= 60-120 plat, that’s 300-700 a day ^
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mithril_Ore_
18 rich nodes= 180-360 mithril, that’s 900 – 1800 a day ^
Mithril is the equivalent of silk scraps for t7 mats, so stop saying you can farm it just as well.
I’m only counting the permanent node locations, you can farm these anyday without depending on luck drops.
To make it even better, you need more silk than mithril per mat, awesome balance!

Feel free to refute all of this with facts, not worthless anecdotal evidence.

Middzz.1490:

Fix fix what …I spend the majority of my time in WvW and so far 3 and half ascended sets

2 light 1 medium and half way a heavy.Those have been crafted with no special farming effort or purchases ..silk is not a problem the red one linen maybe I find the hardest .

Takes time a bit so what the inventory fills quite fast.

how much silk scraps do you get in an hour, what type of gameplay do you do to get it (eotm, karma training, defending, etc)

They only need to change back the changes they made with silk scraps, when silk scraps were 3 coppers each.

2 silk scrap for one silk cloth , instead of 3 silk scraps for one silk cloth.
And 50 silk cloths for one ascended silk, instead of 100 silk cloths.

Broken or not broken whatever u want to call it.
We DO need a reliable way to get cloths especially low level tiers. Even if you claim you can do some cheesy stuff like karma and alt for your source of linen or wool those are still not as reliable as simply farming nodes.
And for those who always say ascended armor should be hard to get endgame gear yes it should be hard to get but not expensive to get. 500 crafting requirement and vision crystal alone are enough to be consider them hard to get compared to exotics.

There is a world of difference between ‘need’ and ‘want’. And misuse of those terms is a fairly good reason why Devs ignore what otherwise might have been compelling arguments.

phys.7689:

Middzz.1490:

Fix fix what …I spend the majority of my time in WvW and so far 3 and half ascended sets

2 light 1 medium and half way a heavy.Those have been crafted with no special farming effort or purchases ..silk is not a problem the red one linen maybe I find the hardest .

Takes time a bit so what the inventory fills quite fast.

how much silk scraps do you get in an hour, what type of gameplay do you do to get it (eotm, karma training, defending, etc)

How many an hour no idea totally not important, I play not for silk thats a by product .All said was never had a problem with getting silk …Recycle bags armor etc throw away the endless dust ore etc .Then when have time craft and never ever found problem not enough silk .Generally have enough to not only craft but sell .Do that when I need to empty bags fast.
As for what generally OCX in WvW borderland sometimes EB.

Middzz.1490:

phys.7689:

Middzz.1490:

Fix fix what …I spend the majority of my time in WvW and so far 3 and half ascended sets

2 light 1 medium and half way a heavy.Those have been crafted with no special farming effort or purchases ..silk is not a problem the red one linen maybe I find the hardest .

Takes time a bit so what the inventory fills quite fast.

how much silk scraps do you get in an hour, what type of gameplay do you do to get it (eotm, karma training, defending, etc)

How many an hour no idea totally not important, I play not for silk thats a by product .All said was never had a problem with getting silk …Recycle bags armor etc throw away the endless dust ore etc .Then when have time craft and never ever found problem not enough silk .Generally have enough to not only craft but sell .Do that when I need to empty bags fast.
As for what generally OCX in WvW borderland sometimes EB.

how much you get per time frame actually matters a lot, if your claim is that it is easy to get from normal play.

i mean if i only feel like crafting a damask once per week, and i play 20 hours a week, of course i will have enough silk.
But that isnt really “easy” relative to anything else, and not really the type of progress most people would like.
it would take 25-36 weeks to get all armor at that rate btw.

short version, numbers matter when you are trying to make comparisons.

phys.7689:

Middzz.1490:

phys.7689:

Middzz.1490:

Fix fix what …I spend the majority of my time in WvW and so far 3 and half ascended sets

2 light 1 medium and half way a heavy.Those have been crafted with no special farming effort or purchases ..silk is not a problem the red one linen maybe I find the hardest .

Takes time a bit so what the inventory fills quite fast.

how much silk scraps do you get in an hour, what type of gameplay do you do to get it (eotm, karma training, defending, etc)

How many an hour no idea totally not important, I play not for silk thats a by product .All said was never had a problem with getting silk …Recycle bags armor etc throw away the endless dust ore etc .Then when have time craft and never ever found problem not enough silk .Generally have enough to not only craft but sell .Do that when I need to empty bags fast.
As for what generally OCX in WvW borderland sometimes EB.

how much you get per time frame actually matters a lot, if your claim is that it is easy to get from normal play.

i mean if i only feel like crafting a damask once per week, and i play 20 hours a week, of course i will have enough silk.
But that isnt really “easy” relative to anything else, and not really the type of progress most people would like.
it would take 25-36 weeks to get all armor at that rate btw.

short version, numbers matter when you are trying to make comparisons.

Tsk tsk I never used words easy difficult or medium or compare anything please do not attribute words I never used .

Long version do you make up numbers the same way you make up what people say , that you do rather invalidates anything.?

All i said was had no problem infer as like from that but do not be inventive with vocabulary.
How long ..any how long in this context is so wide as to be irrelevant .As said OCX some nights very busy some very quiet any average as in all these I get x in y hours is more pulling a figure from the air than reality and totally unverifiable.
All can say is made now 3 and 1 more piece heavy left ( so 4 soon have the silk too ) ascended armor as a by product of playing , without any concentration on must get ascended since they became available.
SO again personally I find no problem with silk .

Middzz.1490:

phys.7689:

Middzz.1490:

phys.7689:

Middzz.1490:

Fix fix what …I spend the majority of my time in WvW and so far 3 and half ascended sets

2 light 1 medium and half way a heavy.Those have been crafted with no special farming effort or purchases ..silk is not a problem the red one linen maybe I find the hardest .

Takes time a bit so what the inventory fills quite fast.

how much silk scraps do you get in an hour, what type of gameplay do you do to get it (eotm, karma training, defending, etc)

How many an hour no idea totally not important, I play not for silk thats a by product .All said was never had a problem with getting silk …Recycle bags armor etc throw away the endless dust ore etc .Then when have time craft and never ever found problem not enough silk .Generally have enough to not only craft but sell .Do that when I need to empty bags fast.
As for what generally OCX in WvW borderland sometimes EB.

how much you get per time frame actually matters a lot, if your claim is that it is easy to get from normal play.

i mean if i only feel like crafting a damask once per week, and i play 20 hours a week, of course i will have enough silk.
But that isnt really “easy” relative to anything else, and not really the type of progress most people would like.
it would take 25-36 weeks to get all armor at that rate btw.

short version, numbers matter when you are trying to make comparisons.

Tsk tsk I never used words easy difficult or medium or compare anything please do not attribute words I never used .

Long version do you make up numbers the same way you make up what people say , that you do rather invalidates anything.?

All i said was had no problem infer as like from that but do not be inventive with vocabulary.
How long ..any how long in this context is so wide as to be irrelevant .As said OCX some nights very busy some very quiet any average as in all these I get x in y hours is more pulling a figure from the air than reality and totally unverifiable.
All can say is made now 3 and 1 more piece heavy left ( so 4 soon have the silk too ) ascended armor as a by product of playing , without any concentration on must get ascended since they became available.
SO again personally I find no problem with silk .

Please refer to the post above that uses numbers to make a point, instead of “personal experience”
Anyone can say “there’s an exception!”, it doesn’t refute anything

Example: smoking is the leading cause of lung cancer.
Random person, just like you: I’ve been smoking for 80 years and never had a single problem.
Conclusion: smoking is still the leading cause of lung cancer.

Raziel.4216:

Feel free to refute all of this with facts, not worthless anecdotal evidence.

Bold just to make it clearer, refute real data with real data, thank you very much.