Guild Wars 2

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Well the F2P model is more profitable as I shown they could make profit without charging for the expansion probably even more. People keep telling me that Anet knows best but I doubt that so much.
According to the forum the sales will not be huge.

Could be, but that’s not their business model so whatever you think you have shown isn’t relevant. Anet knows enough to run a game for 3 years, and likely more than that … and that’s enough. If you doubt, you haven’t considered all the factors here; primarily the fact that real businesses like NCSoft are still behind the game.

Furthermore, if you think forums is an indicator of anything, I question your experience with MMO’s in general.

Then check reddit its the second most popular topic the first being about builds.

Here, let me repeat this replacing Forums wtih Reddit:

… if you think Reddit is an indicator of anything, I question your experience with MMO’s in general. I don’t believe a significant portion of the MMO people actual ‘play’ on the forum, reddit, whatever you can think of. Many people just play in game. In addition, people who are happy with the game will be less apt to make a post about it than someone who is not; therefore, you will see the majority of threads and posts being negative. The forum is biased this way. Think about it a minute.

I0 don’t even get the relevance of your anecdote about SWTOR; GW2 has always been F2P and better than how SWTOR does it now. GW2 didn’t have to be reborn to F2P to survive like SWTOR; it had a sound business model right out of the gate and will continue to do so because reasonable people understand how cheap it is to play and like the content, the mechanics, etc…

Do you have any idea how many people do you need to be significant from lets say 3 million players that play the game?Its not even 1% its that small even smaller. do you think all those studies for all kind of crap like how many adults pick their nose are made to millions? no they are made to a couple of thousands actually 1000 and only hundreds of answers could be used from hundreds of millions.

That is only true if the sample you use has about the same demographic composition as the population you are studying.

So between age X and Y with % being male and % female and other factors. But why would the forum have only people on the extreme? Like a bigger % being between age X are on the forum then they are in the game a way bigger percentage.

Happy customers don’t post as much as customers who want something from the place they are buying from.

And an unhappy customer would most likely also make alot more posts.
Just think for yourself, if you were completely happy with the game and the price set, would you have made the same amount of posts as you did now? I really doubt that.

That’s why generally a forum like this is filled with more people with complaints than those without.

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adormtil.1605:

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adormtil.1605:

Well the F2P model is more profitable as I shown they could make profit without charging for the expansion probably even more. People keep telling me that Anet knows best but I doubt that so much.
According to the forum the sales will not be huge.

Could be, but that’s not their business model so whatever you think you have shown isn’t relevant. Anet knows enough to run a game for 3 years, and likely more than that … and that’s enough. If you doubt, you haven’t considered all the factors here; primarily the fact that real businesses like NCSoft are still behind the game.

Furthermore, if you think forums is an indicator of anything, I question your experience with MMO’s in general.

Then check reddit its the second most popular topic the first being about builds.

Here, let me repeat this replacing Forums wtih Reddit:

… if you think Reddit is an indicator of anything, I question your experience with MMO’s in general. I don’t believe a significant portion of the MMO people actual ‘play’ on the forum, reddit, whatever you can think of. Many people just play in game. In addition, people who are happy with the game will be less apt to make a post about it than someone who is not; therefore, you will see the majority of threads and posts being negative. The forum is biased this way. Think about it a minute.

I0 don’t even get the relevance of your anecdote about SWTOR; GW2 has always been F2P and better than how SWTOR does it now. GW2 didn’t have to be reborn to F2P to survive like SWTOR; it had a sound business model right out of the gate and will continue to do so because reasonable people understand how cheap it is to play and like the content, the mechanics, etc…

Do you have any idea how many people do you need to be significant from lets say 3 million players that play the game?Its not even 1% its that small even smaller. do you think all those studies for all kind of crap like how many adults pick their nose are made to millions? no they are made to a couple of thousands actually 1000 and only hundreds of answers could be used from hundreds of millions.

That is only true if the sample you use has about the same demographic composition as the population you are studying.

So between age X and Y with % being male and % female and other factors. But why would the forum have only people on the extreme? Like a bigger % being between age X are on the forum then they are in the game a way bigger percentage.

Happy customers don’t post as much as customers who want something from the place they are buying from.

And an unhappy customer would most likely also make alot more posts.
Just think for yourself, if you were completely happy with the game and the price set, would you have made the same amount of posts as you did now? I really doubt that.

That’s why generally a forum like this is filled with more people with complaints than those without.

Would all unhappy costumers post or only a small population of them? Most players simply do not engage in forum and reddit and other things. I do not know why is that but it is what it is. Just because they do not say anything it does not mean they are happy with the price it just means that. Its something about the majority actually wanting to avoid conflict. Even in the most repressed and unhappy societies only a small portion of them actually do something.
Example in my country before I was born there was ratio on food and energy people starved and it was for the majority of the population meaning tens of millions but only thousands well hundreds of thousands actually did something about it and changed the repressive leadership
It is what it is most people avoid conflict.

adormtil.1605:

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adormtil.1605:

Diovid.9506:

adormtil.1605:

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adormtil.1605:

Obtena.7952:

adormtil.1605:

Well the F2P model is more profitable as I shown they could make profit without charging for the expansion probably even more. People keep telling me that Anet knows best but I doubt that so much.
According to the forum the sales will not be huge.

Could be, but that’s not their business model so whatever you think you have shown isn’t relevant. Anet knows enough to run a game for 3 years, and likely more than that … and that’s enough. If you doubt, you haven’t considered all the factors here; primarily the fact that real businesses like NCSoft are still behind the game.

Furthermore, if you think forums is an indicator of anything, I question your experience with MMO’s in general.

Then check reddit its the second most popular topic the first being about builds.

Here, let me repeat this replacing Forums wtih Reddit:

… if you think Reddit is an indicator of anything, I question your experience with MMO’s in general. I don’t believe a significant portion of the MMO people actual ‘play’ on the forum, reddit, whatever you can think of. Many people just play in game. In addition, people who are happy with the game will be less apt to make a post about it than someone who is not; therefore, you will see the majority of threads and posts being negative. The forum is biased this way. Think about it a minute.

I0 don’t even get the relevance of your anecdote about SWTOR; GW2 has always been F2P and better than how SWTOR does it now. GW2 didn’t have to be reborn to F2P to survive like SWTOR; it had a sound business model right out of the gate and will continue to do so because reasonable people understand how cheap it is to play and like the content, the mechanics, etc…

Do you have any idea how many people do you need to be significant from lets say 3 million players that play the game?Its not even 1% its that small even smaller. do you think all those studies for all kind of crap like how many adults pick their nose are made to millions? no they are made to a couple of thousands actually 1000 and only hundreds of answers could be used from hundreds of millions.

That is only true if the sample you use has about the same demographic composition as the population you are studying.

So between age X and Y with % being male and % female and other factors. But why would the forum have only people on the extreme? Like a bigger % being between age X are on the forum then they are in the game a way bigger percentage.

Happy customers don’t post as much as customers who want something from the place they are buying from.

And an unhappy customer would most likely also make alot more posts.
Just think for yourself, if you were completely happy with the game and the price set, would you have made the same amount of posts as you did now? I really doubt that.

That’s why generally a forum like this is filled with more people with complaints than those without.

Would all unhappy costumers post or only a small population of them? Most players simply do not engage in forum and reddit and other things. I do not know why is that but it is what it is. Just because they do not say anything it does not mean they are happy with the price it just means that. Its something about the majority actually wanting to avoid conflict. Even in the most repressed and unhappy societies only a small portion of them actually do something.
Example in my country before I was born there was ratio on food and energy people starved and it was for the majority of the population meaning tens of millions but only thousands well hundreds of thousands actually did something about it and changed the repressive leadership
It is what it is most people avoid conflict.

That’s why I used relative terms.