yes there was no stronghold in the beta test but ive seen the map being played in youtube and kinda reminded me of the good old gvg in gw1. map is too big and i think that it will accomodate 3 more players. suggestion is that make it 8v8 and separate it from the capture point map and make it a new gamemode. let the capture points be 5v5 and stronghold be 8v8. and develop more stronghold like maps with varied objectives. and bring back the guild ladder based on this stronghold gamemode.