Guild Wars 2

in the blogpost it’s stated that:

Mastery tracks are trained by gaining experience while the Mastery track is slotted on the Mastery training bar. Higher tiers in Mastery tracks require progressively more Mastery points and more experience to fully train.

I’ve seen a few posts where people claim that they will look for the fastest ways to gain experience in order to level up your mastery-tracks. As I understood it in the first place, we will only get mastery-progression by doing “very specific things” like completing a zone or finding a hidden secret… not that these points can be farmed.

Did I get this right or can mastery points be farmed as well?

Mastery Point != Mastery Progress.

You need to use the points (which require specific content completion) to unlock the different Masteries, but when you have a mastery unlocked you advance it by getting XP.

lordkrall.7241:

Mastery Point != Mastery Progress.

You need to use the points (which require specific content completion) to unlock the different Masteries, but when you have a mastery unlocked you advance it by getting XP.

up until the next tier (which they don’t really elaborate on). Which makes me think each mastery line will look like PvP reward tracks, where we would need to use the Mastery Points at each of the big item on the PvP track (like the dungeon weapon boxes for dungeon tracks).

It says your experience bar will be replaced with a mastery bar. Sounds like you’ll get mastery points from doing content, but also they’ve said there are specific things you need to do to unlock different rewards.

So I guess it will be both? Like how you can get WvW points for doing anything in WvW, but there also might be an achievement aspect?

Now that you mention it is quite unclear.

But we can try and infer that there will be normal experience gain for everything like now, only it will be for mastery points in stead of skill points, and also challenges and other specific content required for certain rewards.

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

in the blogpost it’s stated that:

Mastery tracks are trained by gaining experience while the Mastery track is slotted on the Mastery training bar. Higher tiers in Mastery tracks require progressively more Mastery points and more experience to fully train.

I’ve seen a few posts where people claim that they will look for the fastest ways to gain experience in order to level up your mastery-tracks. As I understood it in the first place, we will only get mastery-progression by doing “very specific things” like completing a zone or finding a hidden secret… not that these points can be farmed.

Did I get this right or can mastery points be farmed as well?

Mastery points can’t be farmed, they’re once-per-thing, per-account. The tracks seemed to be based on experience, as we know it now, so they can presumably be farmed.

lordkrall.7241:

Mastery Point != Mastery Progress.

You need to use the points (which require specific content completion) to unlock the different Masteries, but when you have a mastery unlocked you advance it by getting XP.

This wasnt explicitly stated (or I missed it). It said that you gain mastery points by doing things like map completion etc, but I havent seen it say anywhere that these points are tied to a specific track. In fact, they use the word “spend” seeming to imply that a mastery point is a generic mastery point. So it sounds like you can spend map completion mastery points and run CoF and max out a new race’s language mastery.

I really hope this isnt the case because, to me, it devalues the mastery.

Doing map completion is specific content completion.

You need to do specific tasks in order to get the points. Not necessarily doing specific tasks in order to get specific points.

skullmount, your comparison with the PvP reward-track makes a lot of sense, especially when looking at this statement:

Higher tiers in Mastery tracks require progressively more Mastery points and more experience to fully train.

So you

• complete maps
• find secrets
• complete story steps
• get good results in adventures
• …

in order to unlock a new reward track AND/OR a new tier of a reward track.

Then you simply get experience to fill the bar by…

• doing events
• killing mobs
• crafting

once the bar is filled, you can spend your mastery points to open up the next tier

am I right?

lordkrall.7241:

Doing map completion is specific content completion.

You need to do specific tasks in order to get the points. Not necessarily doing specific tasks in order to get specific points.

correct. The point still remains that it appears that you can completely max out a specific mastery line without ever actually engaging in the content you are “mastering”

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

skullmount, your comparison with the PvP reward-track makes a lot of sense, especially when looking at this statement:

Higher tiers in Mastery tracks require progressively more Mastery points and more experience to fully train.

So you

• complete maps
• find secrets
• complete story steps
• get good results in adventures
• …

in order to unlock a new reward track AND/OR a new tier of a reward track, then you…

• simply get experience to fill the bar by
• doing events
• killing mobs
• crafting

once the bar is filled, you can spend your mastery points to open up the next tier

am I right?

I read it more along the lines that you can do the first part to get points in order to unlock tracks.
And then level up the track by getting XP.

Just getting XP does not seem to award Mastery Points. Especially not considering that they are talking about having to specifically select a Mastery to “train” and that you can only train specific masteries and specific areas (Old/HoT).

That Guy.5704:

correct. The point still remains that it appears that you can completely max out a specific mastery line without ever actually engaging in the content you are “mastering”

I think this is true, Mastery Points is a currency you get for doing a variety of specific content. You don’t have to fly much to unlock Mastery Points for the gliding-mastery, you just spend generic MP (like from map completion) at the end of tier 1 gliding mastery to unlock tier 2, if I got this right. Then you gain experience in Heart of Maguuma (by doing events, killing mobs) in order to progress this tier. Once the bar is full, you can spend mastery points to unlock the next tier.

lordkrall.7241:

Just getting XP does not seem to award Mastery Points.

Hm, that’s not what I meant.

You train the specific mastery tier you’re in by getting xp.
You unlock a (new) tier / a new mastery track by spending mastery points.

Higher tiers in Mastery tracks require progressively more Mastery points and more experience to fully train.

This sounds to me like you will spend a long time in Heart of Maguuma to “train” the higher tiers of the mastery tracks. A bit grindy, but I don’t mind since it’s accountbound and I’ll have to do it only once.

Now the question for me is: are new areas/collections/goodies unlocked at lower tiers only (to make them accessible for everyone easily) which would kind of trivialize the experience or will we need to finish the top tier of a mastery to get access to interesting things?

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

skullmount, your comparison with the PvP reward-track makes a lot of sense, especially when looking at this statement:

Higher tiers in Mastery tracks require progressively more Mastery points and more experience to fully train.

So you

• complete maps
• find secrets
• complete story steps
• get good results in adventures
• …

in order to unlock a new reward track AND/OR a new tier of a reward track.

Then you simply get experience to fill the bar by…

• doing events
• killing mobs
• crafting

once the bar is filled, you can spend your mastery points to open up the next tier

am I right?

That’s roughly what it sounds like.

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

skullmount, your comparison with the PvP reward-track makes a lot of sense, especially when looking at this statement:

Higher tiers in Mastery tracks require progressively more Mastery points and more experience to fully train.

So you

• complete maps
• find secrets
• complete story steps
• get good results in adventures
• …

in order to unlock a new reward track AND/OR a new tier of a reward track.

Then you simply get experience to fill the bar by…

• doing events
• killing mobs
• crafting

once the bar is filled, you can spend your mastery points to open up the next tier

am I right?

Yeah, thats kind of how I read it. The article wasn’t really clear though Maybe we’ll get some red posts soon with clarifications (or clarifications tomorrow on POI).

lordkrall.7241:

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

skullmount, your comparison with the PvP reward-track makes a lot of sense, especially when looking at this statement:

Higher tiers in Mastery tracks require progressively more Mastery points and more experience to fully train.

So you

• complete maps
• find secrets
• complete story steps
• get good results in adventures
• …

in order to unlock a new reward track AND/OR a new tier of a reward track, then you…

• simply get experience to fill the bar by
• doing events
• killing mobs
• crafting

once the bar is filled, you can spend your mastery points to open up the next tier

am I right?

I read it more along the lines that you can do the first part to get points in order to unlock tracks.
And then level up the track by getting XP.

Just getting XP does not seem to award Mastery Points. Especially not considering that they are talking about having to specifically select a Mastery to “train” and that you can only train specific masteries and specific areas (Old/HoT).

That’s exactly what he just described. Do specific task to get points, spend points to get tracks, gain xp to fill tracks.

The easiest way I can describe it is, “Mastery points give you the key. Experience points turn the key.”