Guild Wars 2

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Another Six Gods to Elder Dragons thread? Ugh. I don’t think I can even bother reading through another such thread.

Edit: Okay, just gonna struggle through this from beginning to end.

1. We have no solid indication of when the last Elder Dragon awakening was, actually. The 11,000 years ago thing is pure speculation on players’ part – formed from a misinterpretation of a single line – the line that the G-Lupe disappeared from Tyria in approximately 10,000 BE (and how the ED caused the G-Lupe’s extinction during the last rise). Nothing actually says the G-Lupe went extinct in approx. 10,000 BE.
2. Wyld Hunt – not Wild Hunt. There’s no correlation between the Wyld Hunt and wild-ness.
3. It’s already outright stated that there’s no (direct) ties between the Six Gods and Elder Dragons.
4. Grenth is the god of death, he is the successor of Dhuum (who was not ice). Before Grenth usurped Dhuum, he was not a god. He was merely the child of one. Just the same as to how Menzies is not a god. There are only six gods, not seven. You yourself even show this by stating that he was only tied to death after his ascension to godhood (meaning you yourself state he wasn’t a god prior to besting Dhuum). The fact Dhuum survived does not mean there are seven gods – Dhuum is fallen, thus no longer a god.
5. Lyssa holds no ties whatsoever to crystals.
6. Kormir holds no relation to water, thus putting a bigger wrench in the gods to Elder Dragon theory.
7. Zhaitan is NOT DEATH – he is *un*death. Another wrench in the God-to-ED theory that’s already been debunked by in-game dialogue.
8. The Mystic Telescope related to all Elder Dragons and is as likely to be about Mordremoth awakening as a seventh Elder Dragon awakening.
9. You’re making a huge assumption that the quaggan will become a playable race. You do realize that there’s a total of four races driven out by the DSD – quaggan, krait, karka, and largos. There may be more in the future.
10. The krait aren’t DSD’s minions… they’re just a serpentine race that lived close to where the DSD woke up. In other words, they’re as much victims of the DSD’s actions as the quaggan and karka are.
11. Sylvari aren’t minions of Mordremoth – the best case scenario for that too-popular thought is the Nightmare being caused by Modremoth. Nothing, and I do mean NOTHING solidly indicates the sylvari as a whole or the Pale Tree is related to Mordremoth. Especially given Malyck.

Also, I want to point out that I concur there is a seventh Elder Dragon, and that it likely deals with the sky or stars. However, you’re going about it completely the wrong way and you’re producing stuff that doesn’t matter at all for the notion, and has already either been debunked or proven severely unlikely which only makes the plausibility of a seventh ED to be made out to be equally unlikely.

The amount of human gods is always six. Their mantle of power is immortal, not the Gods themselves. Dhuum doesn’t count right now, as the “Death” mantle has been passed on to Grenth.

Also, there’s no reason to assume Mordremoth is at all moth-related. Jormag isnt, uh… mag(?)-related outside of possible root word definitions.

So what the 6(7) gods left tyria to secretly become elder dragons just to be killed by cannons? If the gods are related the elder dragons I wonder how many cannons they take to be killed.

Basically what Konig said (though I think he meant sixth and not seventh with the telescope reference).

And personally I think the underwater race with more tickets to be playable in the future are the Largos, given how they have the kind of society that fits on character biography (society dividided by houses, choose your house, and there would probably be an evil house, just like the flame legion with the legions, etc). And Quaggans are 99% discarted as they’re a “minor” race for the sympathy mission, and an overal “jokes, puns and cuteness” reference in the game, not to mention how poor character customization or fitting armors on them would be.

Something that needs to be understood before posting more gods-to-dragons relation threads, is that the “gods” aren’t the kind of omnipotent gods from other religions, and that they didn’t create the world (and if I’m not mistaken, the first dragon conflict happened before their arrival as the Rubicon was already written). So there is no relation to them at all, their origins are completly different.

My personal theory (but this is pure speculation) is that somehow a group of humans (from Earth?) discovered how to travel through the mists, some of them got huge powers (powers that could be passed to other individual) there somehow, and then arrived at Tyria, bringing other humans with them.

AstralDusk.1670:

Also, there’s no reason to assume Mordremoth is at all moth-related. Jormag isnt, uh… mag(?)-related outside of possible root word definitions.

You had a very easy pun with ZhaiTAN there, becoming the new publicitary face of hotels at the beach.

Lokheit.7943:

Basically what Konig said (though I think he meant sixth and not seventh with the telescope reference).

Nope, I worded it correctly. I was basically saying that it’s likely about the sixth Elder Dragon (Mordremoth), rather than a completely unknown seventh Elder Dragon.

Lokheit.7943:

and if I’m not mistaken, the first dragon conflict happened before their arrival as the Rubicon was already written

First Elder Dragon rising happened who-knows-when. However, when the Six Gods arrived on Tyria in regards to their last awakening (a lot of people mistakenly believe that their previous awakening was their first – this is not so!) is unknown. We’re told it was after the Tome of Rubicon’s writing, however the presence of the forgotten and the lack of stating the forgotten were not brought by the Six shows that the gods could have arrived during the last ED rise.

Lokheit.7943:

AstralDusk.1670:

Also, there’s no reason to assume Mordremoth is at all moth-related. Jormag isnt, uh… mag(?)-related outside of possible root word definitions.

You had a very easy pun with ZhaiTAN there, becoming the new publicitary face of hotels at the beach.

Ha, how’d I miss that? I just thought “Zhaitan? No, a zhai isn’t a thing. I’ll just play up the ridiculousness of reading into suffixes by using a total non-word. It’ll be good times.”

NO! We’ve been over this. Six gods aren’t the five dragons ….

Fire: Charizard
Ice: Jynx
Plant: Bulbasaur
Undead: Spook

Clearly the 6 Dragons are the 100 pokémon.

Next time I will explain why dragons, gods, pokémon and races are real life countries.

The 7th dragon’s power will be Heart. You heard here first folks!

I had to laugh when I saw this post for all obvious reasons.