A few questions on Bathea Havocbringer

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Posted by: xikira.3264

xikira.3264

Ok so Bathea Havocbringer is one of my favorite characters mentioned in the guild wars lore. I was wondering does she have a grave or memorial I could visit in game or does she even have a statue anywhere. She did so much for the charr you would think they honored her somewhere.

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

Aaron Ansari.1604

She does not- and if you think about it, it makes sense. She’s a hero now, but at the time of her death she was upheld as the worst of villains by an oppressive regime that would’ve had the motivation and the power to ensure she wasn’t honored. Any memorial or statue would’ve been erected long after her death, probably at a time when no one had any idea what she looked like… and if that memorial does exist, I would expect it to be in the land of her legion, Blood, not in the Ascalon maps we have access to. Maybe we’ll see one in the future?

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

draxynnic.3719

The Black Citadel has statues of heroes from other legions, so I don’t think it’s an issue of being the wrong location to have a memorial to her. It’s probably more a case that, as Aaron said, by the time anyone would have considered a memorial, nobody knew what she looked like.

Keep in mind, also, that the charr have a ‘Victory at any cost’ mantra. Bathea may have been the first rebellion against the shamans, but all she really achieved was to have her gender oppressed for over two centuries, and the rebellion that finally succeeded had nothing to do with her. Humans would probably put a memorial for her if she had been a figure in their history, but the charr might well view her not as a hero, but as a loser who isn’t worthy of recognition.

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People don’t hate Scarlet like Game of Thrones fans hate Joffrey.
They hate her the way Star Wars fans hate Jar Jar Binks.

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

Aaron Ansari.1604

It might depend on the charr. Ember certainly seemed to regard her as a hero, but that might come down to her personal reverence for what amounted to the charr feminist movement.

R.I.P., Old Man of Auld Red Wharf. Gone but never forgotten.