Guild Wars 2

Yes, it is that time of the year.

When everybody think that E was delete of the plot, a few letters from him appers in Lake Doric.

So, who is he?

I bet for someone of the Order of Wishper, or a Pirate, maeby Evon.

The letters definitely prove he is a Whispers agent. One of them mentions whisper protocols and secret codes used by the Whispers. How high ranked and his actual identity seems to still be unknown but he has an oddly high amount of Seraph contacts and underlings.

This implies he is human, even more than Marjory never mentioning oddities of his physical stature from being in physical contact with E.

Why do I have a strong urge to belt out “Suddenly … E-more!”

Im secretly sure it’s Eir

Does Kasmeer know who is E ? Since he mentioned her in one of his letters…

I stopped caring about E a while ago to be honest.
This mystery has been dragged out way too long imo.

Rather than dragged out, it – like a lot of plot lines – was just left untouched.

However, the mystery has a lot of answers to it in this instance.

So far from what I’ve found this release:

• E has a ton of Seraph contacts.
• E has some Whispers contacts and knows the location of the Chantry of Secrets (obvious to players but it’s a closely held secret in lore), and knows Whispers protocols and codes.
• E was the reason why Exemplars Mehid and Salid knew of the assassination attempt on the PC in the Orphaned storyline, as well as knew where to find Esthel (turns out Caudecus let E know via anonymous letter as his ploy to be promoted from Justiciar and second-in-command to Confessor).
• E has a lot of invested interest in Kasmeer, Jennah, and Logan’s survival.

From this, we know that E is a member of the Order of Whispers, and likely a member of the Shining Blade. This means he’s human for sure. In addition, he’s kept aware of Kasmeer’s abilities – which as far as I know only the biconics, Anise, and possibly the Mesmer Collective knows about.

Still no clear indication on who E is, but now we know more.

It would be very funny if E turns out to be the GW1 Master of Whispers having survived to GW2 Era for similar reasons that Livia did.

He does have a masculine voice…

Mickey Frogeater.1470:

It would be very funny if E turns out to be the GW1 Master of Whispers having survived to GW2 Era for similar reasons that Livia did.

He does have a masculine voice…

Marjory’s Story states that she didn’t sense any necromancy on E, however, and Jurah is/was a necromancer. It’s possible that he might have learned ways to hide that over the centuries, but it seems to indicate that E and Jurah are not the same character.

I’m not 100% sold on E being a member of the Whispers, but it does seem like the most likely possibility. It’d also explain how Caudecus knew about him, since we learned that the White Mantle had an infiltrator.

It is curious, though, how invested E is in Divinity’s Reach. By the tone of his letters, he didn’t just sound interested in beating back the Mantle- there was a thread of hostility, even anger, being directed against Caudecus personally for his ‘betrayal’. If he is Whispers, we just might be seeing a departure from the typically impassive spy stereotype, a welcome bit of characterization.

Aaron Ansari.1604:

I’m not 100% sold on E being a member of the Whispers, but it does seem like the most likely possibility. It’d also explain how Caudecus knew about him, since we learned that the White Mantle had an infiltrator.

It is curious, though, how invested E is in Divinity’s Reach. By the tone of his letters, he didn’t just sound interested in beating back the Mantle- there was a thread of hostility, even anger, being directed against Caudecus personally for his ‘betrayal’. If he is Whispers, we just might be seeing a departure from the typically impassive spy stereotype, a welcome bit of characterization.

E also has a strong interest in Lion’s Arch. If I remember correctly it was LA’s issues that brought us together.

E also directed us to Mordremoth’s rising threat. I think those two cases was less a matter of strong interest and more a case of finding something out so he directed us there.

Wow thanks Konig for all the infos. I didnt realized he had a part in the PC orphaned story o_O When do we know it ??
Can Kasmeer be related to this story arc since we didnt meet her for a looooong time (what the hell is she doing ?!) ?
I really thought she would be in this patch since it happened in Kryta. Now it is clear they prepare something for her…

I cant help thinking E iis human too.He knows sooooo so much things about what’s happening in the human kingdom.
Well…… he knows a lot of things, for sure >_>
I like the idea of the Master of Whispers. Jory didnt sense necro aura but heh, who knows. We’re a lot thinking Anise is Livia, and she would have turned mesmer ?

Could these clues point towards Livia? It’s the only plot left that makes sense for her to be in. She didn’t turn up during either raid and that’s all resolved, she didn’t turn up during the attack on DR nor to take down Caudecus and the White Mantle, so why else did they deliberately reveal her to be alive during Sea of Sorrows if not to participate in one of those plots?

Livia was loyal to Kryta, which in her life still includes Lion’s Arch. Livia has been around long enough to have strong ties to any organisation, including the Order of Whispers, it may even be canon that the GW1 Master of Whispers worked with her or met her through the player character (obviously during the human migration from Elona she would have been involved on the Krytan side of things and thus likely worked with the Order of Whispers back then). I’d be surprised if the Master Exemplar of the Shining Blade didn’t have some kind of formal relationship with the Order of Whispers.

Livia is known to work with races other than humans to further her agenda (Zinn and Blimm) and she’s a bit of a schemer in Sea of Sorrows, iirc she even has some lines about securing the royal bloodline that don’t exactly look favorably on the king at the time. It might also explain why there are so many Seraph working for E – Bartholos led the Shining Blade before Livia but stepped down to form the Seraph, so their origins actually go back to a former Shining Blade leader and Livia might still hold some influence on the Seraph. Anise is hiding in plain sight, but if Livia believed the White Mantle were on the rise, she might best be able to protect the Queen and Kryta by acting behind the scenes as E.

There are a couple other obvious clues in the notes. The second note mentions suspending someone’s regular duties working for E to plan an evacuation to get “her” out, possibly against her will. The obvious guess as to who “her” is would be the Queen, but it could also be the other heir the Krytan locket hinted at (if that story ever goes somewhere). I assume the person who E sent the letter to was the dead Seraph girl on the floor? So the question becomes, who is her brother and what special skill does he have? If we assume their charge is Jennah, what special skill would force Jennah to do something she doesn’t want to do?

I thought the locations of the letters would be important but the letter to Kasmeer (which presumably didn’t make it as Kasmeer didn’t turn up to investigate minister,s unless it’s referring to Party Politics, and there is a dead Seraph next to the letter) was east of Lakeside Bazaar which seems to be on the way to nowhere.

The interest in Logan might suggest he is wanted to protect Jennah, that would fit Livia’s goal of securing the bloodline (is it possible he’s seen as a suitor for Jennah, is it even possible Jennah has a child with him we don’t know about?). There is a mesmer stealthed Seraph archer next to the note near Logan, so clearly E is keeping tabs on him in Lake Doric.

There are too many links to Seraph, Shining Blade and Krytans, a strong interest in protecting Kryta and probably the Queen, an interest in Logan and a dislike of the White Mantle. The Order of Whispers mention is the odd one out, not the norm so I’m thinking E has contacts in the Order, not that he/she is a member. Livia fits most of the criteria and there are explanations for the criteria she doesn’t fit (mostly, magic).

Shiren.9532:

Could these clues point towards Livia? It’s the only plot left that makes sense for her to be in. She didn’t turn up during either raid and that’s all resolved, she didn’t turn up during the attack on DR nor to take down Caudecus and the White Mantle, so why else did they deliberately reveal her to be alive during Sea of Sorrows if not to participate in one of those plots?

While I would like to see Livia make an appearance in GW2, I’m not sold on this line of reasoning. The same could be applied to Evennia, or Malyck, and the answer for both of them could also apply to Livia- at the time ANet meant for the character to be involved in a future story, but when the time came it was outside the scope of what they had to work with. GW1 ended, HoT was very tightly scripted, and the White Mantle plot now seems concluded after a raid and two episodes, conceivably too little time for the devs to introduce what would be a completely new character to much of the player base. They’ve made their position very clear in the past: if they don’t feel they can give a plot the justice it deserves, they won’t do it.

There are too many links to Seraph, Shining Blade and Krytans, a strong interest in protecting Kryta and probably the Queen, an interest in Logan and a dislike of the White Mantle. The Order of Whispers mention is the odd one out, not the norm so I’m thinking E has contacts in the Order, not that he/she is a member. Livia fits most of the criteria and there are explanations for the criteria she doesn’t fit (mostly, magic).

The two aren’t mutually exclusive. There’s nothing stopping E from being in a position of authority in the Seraph and a member of the Order of Whispers at the same time- that’s pretty much the Whisper MO. A different letter also addressed it’s bearer as Agent, so it’s possible that all the Seraph with letters are Whispers as well. (Or it might just be a common term that I’m reading too much into.) The only thing we can be confident of at this point is that he has ties in both organizations, and conceivably the Shining Blade as well.

I’m more interested in the “I’ll get there as soon as I can.” It might come to nothing, but I’ll be keeping an eye out in DR to see if any prominent NPC crops up soon. For that matter, Anise is absent at the start of the siege, and is displeased to see Demmi. We know E advised the Whispers not to involve her…

Just a small addition: the “e” at the end of Anise is silent.

So, silent e → E?

Don’t even mind me.

Less.1265:

Wow thanks Konig for all the infos. I didnt realized he had a part in the PC orphaned story o_O When do we know it ??

It’s in the letters to Caudecus achievement, part of the Confessor’s End instance. One of the letters is a very hostile “I really do not trust anonymous tips” letter from E (which is both ironic and hints that Caudecus knew E’s identity) which mentions “the assassination plot” and Esthel’s location.

Less.1265:

Can Kasmeer be related to this story arc since we didnt meet her for a looooong time (what the hell is she doing ?!) ?

One of E’s letters is meant for Kasmeer, though it’s unknown if she got it. If she did, she’d likely be among nobility trying to weed out the White Mantle insurgents there.

I don’t think Livia or Anise are E. E’s letters give a much different vibe than either of those two did at any point, ever. Jennah is a much stronger candidate for E than Livia or Anise at this point.

In fact, Anise’s attitude in this episode makes me actually believe the Anise=Livia theory.

Not to mention that Anise mentions receiving a tip-off from E in Party Politics. While it’s possible she’s obfuscating (although I think Marjory’s story still suggests E is male) it suggests that they’re different individuals, and in fact that E is not part of the Shining Blade.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

One of E’s letters is meant for Kasmeer, though it’s unknown if she got it. If she did, she’d likely be among nobility trying to weed out the White Mantle insurgents there.

Ya Kasmeer never got that letter as it was more of a reason Anet put into this episode to explain why Kasmeer is not in Head of the Snake when last we learned she was in Kryta.

Guess we may see Kasmeer next episode as part of meeting her and getting a explaination why we did not run into her despite being in kryta anyways.

Anise was not near queen when she invited ministers and us and was know that attack is close.

Anise in manor is trying to convince how dangerous its.

Anise from human presonal and now were a bit different. Ofc how they react is case of their will, but there is impression of maybe Livia.

Anise takes Valette as her new slave, was that our presence? not, cuz she didn’t leave us with Demmi. Logan Thackerey. Marshal Thackerey. Future King? And its ok if that is the case.

Kasmeer – even if she didn’t get a letter from E, she was prohibited to endager herself if she find wm traitor. Finding traitor and she would leave him alone? Kasmeer would not do it.

Its sixth letter in E’s Correspondence:
‘Kasmeer, your special touch is needed to root out traitor in the court. If you find one, alert nearest Shining Blade or Seraph Guard. Do not endanger yourself. – E.’

Ofc she could be doing any errand for queen.

Sewers entrance in east where lake water went away and child that can pass through bars and we not.

Almora day ago offered Marshal position to Logan, attack make him change his mind. Artificial stimulus? Designated. Destinied. Where is Logan pushed. New blightning power. Will next guardian elite spec be sort of blighter/blight knight/marshal/blight marshal. That stats have no power. Almora search for figurehead that won’t endager, make orders and sign papers. His will to do something, but would she not tell him what they expect/demand? She told. Definitely. He agreed to be leader in safety headquarters.

Nylia Steelpaw, legionnare volunteered her troops to help us.

Cemented peace between humans and charrs with Caudecus.

She is blood legion. She bring sentinels, that fought vs branded.

We did visit: heart of maguma, maguma wastes, ring of fire/undeding ocean, kryta/woodlandcascades, far shiverpeaks.

We can visit: scavenger hunt, sea of sorrow, dominion of winds, blazeridge steps, ascalon, crystal desert, elona river, steamposur mountains, deldrimor front, tarnished coast, strait of malchor, ruin of orr, blood legion homelands, janthing bay, isles of janthir, shiverpeak mountains, maguuma, kryta.

Lake doric have new background in hero panel.

Queen reminded as that we are hero and she is a ledear. That part about smashing things was like to remember that you’re device in our hands. Krytan Spiderwort. Weed look like and blooms and then show its beauty. We copy that in manor torward Valetee. Logan and Canach close too. All three are like that. Logan in blighted pod was probably the strongest accurate.

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

I stopped caring about E a while ago to be honest.
This mystery has been dragged out way too long imo.

^this. As much as I love the story ANET tells. They have the habit of dragging out story, or just dropping them, and we the players never knowing if we will ever find out what happened.

And what about Demmi, the daugther of Caedecus?

She is E… well… was E…

If you think about it, it is great. She is dead, so the E plot would be finish.

All what she did was against her father.

She was part of the Order of Wishpers, and she was part of a noble house, what explain the contact that E has in the Krytian army.

But, why did she chose E as a name? That is the weak point of this argument.

I think they would have revealed if Demmi was E and had dozens of contacts in the Seraph, Whispers, and Shining Blade…

She was a complete novice at all things intrigue when we met her in the PS, and E has been established to have been around with that nickname at that point (see the Correspondences to Caudecus letters).