Guild Wars 2

All jokes aside, I was watching a video on Youtube about the Asura lore when he said they really have no interest in being a part of other races and generally want to just take over everything. He also backed this up by saying their homeland is a floating cube as in it’s not part of Tyria.

What do you think?

I highly doubt the asura are any more evil than the charr or humans. They are simply of the belief that their race is superior and that if they ran the other races lives, the world would be better off. I do not believe that Rata Sum floating has anything to do with not being part of Tyria, I mean they have dozens of laboratories on land, and the city of Soren Draa, multiple inquest bases, and so forth. Not to mention, all of their ancestral land is located within the Depths of Tyria. I would say, if anything, that Rata Sum floats for one of two reasons, either:

1) They were mainly pushing the limits of science and magic to the limits and Rata Sum was born.

2) Rata Sum floats because of an engrained fear of once more being pushed out of their home. And the last time they were pushed out, it was by ground-bound flame creatures.

I’m sure there are other possibilties, but I doubt any of them lend to the race as being evil. There are evil members, like every other race, but labeling the whole race as such would be wrong.

They view themselves as superior (in intellect and thus leadership) than other races and there are some that want the asura to be on top of the proverbial food chain (High Councillor Flax for example). They have been integrating themselves into all races though, via economy, and that’s actually their little “master plan” for taking over other races.

But it’s not like they’d be enslaving the other races. So no, they’re not evil.

And Rata Sum being a floating city I believe was more of a security action – when they arrived in the Maguuma, there was a lot of hostile wildlife that the asura were not used to, and they’re still not entirely used to the surface life. Floating in the sky was their way to protect themselves from the unknown of the surface life – if memory serves me right on what the devs said for the design behind the city.

The asura are definitely evil and will be next against the wall after Ascalon is freed.

No, seriously now. They’re not evil so much as their view of other races is dismissive and they as a collective whole put asuran needs above other needs. Individually, each asura is much the same – out for self-preservation, or acknowledgement of their superior skill/intellect.

Despite that, there are plenty of asura who are willing to get through that to serve others’ needs or a greater purpose. A lot of the asura who you can find in the Pact generally have tempered their “I’m the best” edge down to being willing to at least follow someone’s orders.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

The asura are definitely evil and will be next against the wall after Ascalon is freed.

Ascalon has already been freed: charrs wiped out the humans, remember?XD

while not evil they sure do love rubbing their huge egos in your face
i swear zojja goes “i’m a proper asuran genius” every 5 mins

they are just the biggest kittens of tyria (in my oppion)

They’re just small. If you’re tiny, you have complexes. Same goes for rats

The asura in GW2 is a bit like humans are in the real world.
Does that makes humans evil?

From the perspective of a cow, yes modern humans are evil.

Asura are egomaniacs, narcissists and a lot of time jerks. They flaunt their intellect every chance they get. That doesn’t make them evil as a race. Look at Snaff, Zojja, Blimm etc. they weren’t evil just not always fun to talk to. They care about other people, they gave the asura gates, waypoints to all of the races of Tyria. There will always be people like Kudu that only do evil, we even stop him from doing more evil. Flaunting your ego isn’t evil, it’s just unpleasant to the one whose near an asura when they start going on and on about how smart they are, it’s tiring not malefic.

Asura already control the world.
They shared their gates and waypoints to other races, and now that these are so deeply ingrown, taking them away would shatter the economy and cause general disruption everywhere.
Where do you think all that WP money goes (also, lorewise there’s a cost for using gates, too).

Now, they’re not evil, they just want to be on top, and from an economic point of view, they’re almost there.

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Asura already control the world.
They shared their gates and waypoints to other races, and now that these are so deeply ingrown, taking them away would shatter the economy and cause general disruption everywhere.
Where do you think all that WP money goes (also, lorewise there’s a cost for using gates, too).

Now, they’re not evil, they just want to be on top, and from an economic point of view, they’re almost there.

Not while Captain Evon Gnashblade, defender of Capitalism, is on the case and in charge of Black Lion!

Humanity would still win!

A lot of evil originates from the lack of value given to the lives of other people. If you kill, imprison, dispossess, or injure other people because you think it doesn’t matter then someone else who thinks it does matter will see you as evil.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Asura already control the world.
They shared their gates and waypoints to other races, and now that these are so deeply ingrown, taking them away would shatter the economy and cause general disruption everywhere.
Where do you think all that WP money goes (also, lorewise there’s a cost for using gates, too).

Now, they’re not evil, they just want to be on top, and from an economic point of view, they’re almost there.

Not while Captain Evon Gnashblade, defender of Capitalism, is on the case and in charge of Black Lion!

As if. He probably has a deal with the Asura to avoid major transportation costs. Is is implied that the fastest and most efficient means of travel are gates and waypoints, which means that in order to keep BLTP running as smoothly as we’re all used to, his merchants would require gates and waypoints.

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Asura already control the world.
They shared their gates and waypoints to other races, and now that these are so deeply ingrown, taking them away would shatter the economy and cause general disruption everywhere.
Where do you think all that WP money goes (also, lorewise there’s a cost for using gates, too).

Now, they’re not evil, they just want to be on top, and from an economic point of view, they’re almost there.

Not while Captain Evon Gnashblade, defender of Capitalism, is on the case and in charge of Black Lion!

As if. He probably has a deal with the Asura to avoid major transportation costs. Is is implied that the fastest and most efficient means of travel are gates and waypoints, which means that in order to keep BLTP running as smoothly as we’re all used to, his merchants would require gates and waypoints.

More proof I was right in voting for Kiel if Evon is helping the evil asura overlords.

Well to me Asura in general are not so much evil as amoral, they have a rough set of ‘ethics’ which guides their experiments and frankly it is the only thing that separates them from the inquest. But evil no, if by evil you mean knowingly take action to harm others. Sure they might harm others by accident and not particularly care but it not like they meant to unless a ravenous army of flesh eating slime monsters, and so much interesting data was produced!