Guild Wars 2

I’m curious as to whether or not there is a connection. I just did the achievement for the sacred shiny, and there are golems called “Eye of the Unseen”

Thoughts?

I doubt there’s a direct link to the asura, although fans have been crazy about it for years over the Rata Sum thing. My thoughts are that there’s lingering mursaat influence (or a lingering mursaat…) that’s affecting the skritt in the area, causing them to become hyper-aggressive. The asura come to study the skritt, and the influence starts affecting their golems too, and seemingly requisitions some as guards. (If you interact with the golems at the research station, their behavior, while not hostile, is certainly… erratic.)

Do you know how many dead end references there have been to “unseen” or “mursaat” in GW and GW2?

What those other references didn’t have were odd behaviors manifesting in beings living in the ruins of a bastion of mursaat power/worship.

Still, asura experimenting on aspects of the Mursaat in the past tells me there isn’t a friendly connection, and they obviously aren’t the same.

Like I said, probably no direct connection.

I freaked when I found out the RATA SUM is an anagram for MURSAAT.
WP alsomst covers it all:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0x3wYYxUVY
Tell me what you think, I do hope anat will reveal there is a connection.

Personality wise, the Asura and Mursaat share a lot in common, even more so with the Inquest, but I doubt there is a connection other than that.

Bellyboomer.3048:

I freaked when I found out the RATA SUM is an anagram for MURSAAT.
WP alsomst covers it all:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0x3wYYxUVY
Tell me what you think, I do hope anat will reveal there is a connection.

The anagram thing has been known since Eye of the North was released. But ever since that, I don’t think anyone has ever managed to connect Asura and Mursaat.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Bellyboomer.3048:

I freaked when I found out the RATA SUM is an anagram for MURSAAT.
WP alsomst covers it all:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0x3wYYxUVY
Tell me what you think, I do hope anat will reveal there is a connection.

The anagram thing has been known since Eye of the North was released. But ever since that, I don’t think anyone has ever managed to connect Asura and Mursaat.

Did rata sum already exist then? I don’t have much knowledge of the first game.

I think Rata Sum was a phrase in Latin

It’s on the wiki I think

I don’t know what “Rata” means in Latin but “Sum” should mean “I am” In English

LumAnth.5124:

I think Rata Sum was a phrase in Latin

It’s on the wiki I think

I don’t know what “Rata” means in Latin but “Sum” should mean “I am” In English

Two of the possible translations from Latin of “Rata Sum” are “I have calculated” and “I am certain.”

Bellyboomer.3048:

Did rata sum already exist then? I don’t have much knowledge of the first game.

Rata Sum was built on top of ruins. What we see in GW1 is what is known as Soreen Draa in GW2 – though with fewer ruins – which is basically one of six “on the ground” locations of Rata Sum (three can be accessed within the city zone, and one only accessible via personal story).

It should be noted that Rata Sum is an asuran name, and there are other similar names of asuran cities/towns – Quora Sum, one of the six now-lost underground cities, and Rata Pten, asuran ruins on the surface that predate the Cataclysm.

Just so you go crazy with anagrams, and didn’t know they existed in GW1. The zone right next to Rata Sum in GW1 was called Riven Earth, which is an anagram for Thrive Near. Thus Rata Sum and Riven Earth piece together as Mursaat Thrive Near Although, if anyone expects anything to actually come of this, they will probably be disappointed, unless we find something in future expansion zones of the Maguuma Jungle.

In the beginning of eye of the north it was stated that the asura moved to the surface because of the destroyer thread. It could be possible that they stumbled on the ruins of the mursaat, Rata Sum. Since they had just moved there it is unlikely that they constructed Rata Sum in such a short time, even though it wasn’t very big in eotn. Maybe they found mursaat ruins and started studying it. They also power their devices with dragon energy, but maybe they learned that technique by studying the mursaat, who had already faced the elder dragons.

The Inquest power select inventions with dragon energy, but the asura as a whole eschew the process. If you are referring to the Central Transfer Chamber, it would seem that the magic the dragons radiate while hibernating is uncorrupted, and therefore not dragon energies at all.

It seems highly unlikely, because of the fact that the only source we have of a depiction of a Mursaat city as “On the fourth day, delirious with hunger, Saul emerged from the trees to see what he thought was a hallucination—a city of massive towers reaching into the heavens. The architecture was astounding, and the creatures who lived here were unlike any he had ever seen.” This falls very short of what we see in Rata Sum.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Saul_D%27Alessio

On top of that, it is also stated by Konig that the naming of the city is similar to two known asura cities that pre-date any connection they might have had to the Mursaat. Plus the architecture found within the GW1 version of Rata Sum is very similar to that of Rata Pten and other asura buildings found in the Depths of Tyria. This points to Rata Sum and the structures nearby having been the remains of perhaps a krewe or groups of krewes that were researching on the surface before either they were wiped out (by monsters or their own creations) or they went back underground and did not tell others because they did not want to share their findings.

MrTheapot.6913:

It could be possible that they stumbled on the ruins of the mursaat, Rata Sum.

No for reasons Narcemus said and the fact that we have seen mursaat structures in the Ring of Fire and they look NOTHING like Rata Sum.

Furthermore, the mursaat weren’t in the world for thousands of years prior to just shortly before Prophecies’ events, so the Rata Sum ruins wouldn’t be in such shape – they’d be in far worse to non-existent shape (from the last Dragonrise) or they’d be in pretty good condition (since Prophecies).

MrTheapot.6913:

They also power their devices with dragon energy, but maybe they learned that technique by studying the mursaat, who had already faced the elder dragons.

They did that before surfacing – unknowingly at that. So extremely unlikely. Especially since after surfacing they didn’t.