Guild Wars 2

This one was found at Southsun Cove. According to the wiki, Krait used to fight alongside them. Why are there none to be found now?

Start your theories.

The wiki says concept art shows them together. Concept art also shows female Svanir and asura as goblins living in a marsh. It doesn’t mean anything.

Who can say for sure if such giant sea creatures still exist? If they did, you’d probably not find them along the coast. But deep beneath the sea….

Do we know anything about the creatures from the jade sea? What happened to them after the sea turned back into water (did this already happen?)

Ironically, I’d say many drowned.
… Well the change wouldn’t have been that drastic to start but yea, the creatures we see in Factions are pretty much land dwellers. I suspect they can’t just go back to being aquatic (considering there is almost no water to be found at the Jade Sea during it’s jaded state). They probably turned to the little land available, which makes them susceptible to attacks from each other and the Luxons.

I was actually talking about the ones that got caught by the jadewind.

So was I

I guess you mean the ones trapped in Jade? Well most of those we see are dead I’d assume, but it’s possible some Leviathans might have survived and have become common wildlife in the Jade Sea.

…If you consider the Jade Maw, that could be a scary thought.

In Malchor’s Leap, you can find those bones too.

Dialogue around Viathan Lake and Viathan’s Arm hint to there (once) being a Leviathan living there – probably why it was called such.

Most likely, the Leviathans live in the Unending Ocean.

In Straits of Devastation, in “The Long Way Around” mini-dungeon, there’s an asura which mentions the bones around him may be tied to the Elder Dragons’ past. Those are leviathan bones.

Evans.6347:

Ironically, I’d say many drowned.
… Well the change wouldn’t have been that drastic to start but yea, the creatures we see in Factions are pretty much land dwellers. I suspect they can’t just go back to being aquatic (considering there is almost no water to be found at the Jade Sea during it’s jaded state). They probably turned to the little land available, which makes them susceptible to attacks from each other and the Luxons.

Unless rather than evolving into land-dwellers, they evolved into amphibians. Only 200 years passed between the Jade Wind and Factions, so I doubt that they’d fully evolve into land-dwelling, and it’s not like they couldn’t migrate through the river channel to the north into the open waters (or creatures migrating from there to escape the DSD).

It’s also possible that the solidifying wasn’t fully done in the Jade Sea, so the deep sea creatures could have survived.

kokiman.2364:

I was actually talking about the ones that got caught by the jadewind.

The only ones that may have survived would be the Canthan Leviathans (which are known to Tyrians as Undersea Wurms it would seem, given how in the Solid Oceanic Fractal, one can see a wurm (looks like a Frost Wurm oddly enough, but probably meant to be a non-coral-looking Undersea Wurm) trapped in the jade. In Factions, we saw one break free of its jade prison, still alive, so the others may still be alive too.

This is very interesting, would love to fight one of these or have some missions with them…or have them be bubbles champions possibly?

It’s already been said that the Leviathans are not related to the Elder Dragons as minions or the like. What’s interesting is that they had a model for them shown in the Manifesto trailer, but it got cut from the game…

Well when saying that I mean like they were corrupted by bubbles not like his created minions or anything…also them makin leviathans minions/champs wouldn’t be the first time anet changed from what they originally said

I can’t see them doing such (the changing what they said thing) given Sea of Sorrows. The Maw is a leviathan which becomes a risen.

ATM, there’s nothing to really say that the DSD will corrupt living beings – like Primordus, it seems to focus on corrupting the elements themselves (note: Primordus can corrupt living beings and that may be the story behind Volcanic Fractal, but thus far nothing shows that the destroyers we see are corrupted living beings; same goes for the DSD who’s only mentioned to have corrupted water).

Regarding DSD, there are the still unexplained tentacles in the karka hive in Southsun Cove, that appeared with the Secret of Southsun release. Those could be related to DSD.

I always assumed they were corrupted by the Jade wind Konig. Those creatures in the Jade Sea don’t really look all that…natural. I suppose you could be right, who is to say what’s natural in the world of Tyria anyway.

The only thing the Jade Wind was turn things to stone (or in the case of liquid, gemstone). Animals and the like in the Echovald, along with the trees, turned to stone. The Jade Sea itself turned to jade, leaving the creatures within petrified. It didn’t go mutating anything at all.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

What’s interesting is that they had a model for them shown in the Manifesto trailer, but it got cut from the game…

What’s even more interesting, is that the model might still be in the game. But if it’s still there, then it’s in a spot that we currently can’t get to.

In the video, the place where the Leviathan appears looks quite like the skill point beneath HotW, placing it quite far from the Unending Ocean.

RedStar.4218:

In the video, the place where the Leviathan appears looks quite like the skill point beneath HotW, placing it quite far from the Unending Ocean.

It’s far too unclear to say what area we’re looking at in the video, unless we’re not talking about the same manifesto trailer. You get such a brief look at it, and it just show a shark and some fishes in the background. It could have been recorded nearly anywhere.

If the Leviathan is still anywhere in the game, it would be much closer to home than that.

I recall hearing about leviathan-related events in Mount Maelstrom being found in the gw.dat. That was likely where it was to be.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

I recall hearing about leviathan-related events in Mount Maelstrom being found in the gw.dat. That was likely where it was to be.

I think there was also one in Lion’s Arch. But it was either removed, or it’s still there, but hidden outside the map bounds. If anyone ever managed to get out of the map, we’d know for sure.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Konig Des Todes.2086:

I recall hearing about leviathan-related events in Mount Maelstrom being found in the gw.dat. That was likely where it was to be.

I think there was also one in Lion’s Arch. But it was either removed, or it’s still there, but hidden outside the map bounds. If anyone ever managed to get out of the map, we’d know for sure.

I’ve been under LA map. There are no Leviathans down there (but there is a strange, unreachable portal that looks like the ones found in GW1 Nightfall between zones).

That’s kinda sad…woulda been awesome to see a corrupted(whatever dragon you want probably primordus or DSD most likely) leviathan coming out of the water in LA and killing everything and having a gigantic battle with it in Destroyed Lions Arch

Tuomir.1830:

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Konig Des Todes.2086:

I recall hearing about leviathan-related events in Mount Maelstrom being found in the gw.dat. That was likely where it was to be.

I think there was also one in Lion’s Arch. But it was either removed, or it’s still there, but hidden outside the map bounds. If anyone ever managed to get out of the map, we’d know for sure.

I’ve been under LA map. There are no Leviathans down there (but there is a strange, unreachable portal that looks like the ones found in GW1 Nightfall between zones).

Konig mentioned it in another thread, but there’s some bones of the Maw (from Sea of Sorrows) at the ‘Pride & Maw’ PoI just past Claw Island that can be seen in the instance. Haven’t seen anything like the images the OP gave, though.

Google Krait and Leviathan GW1 wiki, the GW2 Leviathans are probably the more draconian krait, while the old actual leviathans are insects that kinda look like wurm/crab fusions related to the kraken and irukandji (Jade Maw and The Leviathan probably being some fusion/mutation/evolution of the 3 species).

Remember the Krait are from pretty much the same location at sea where Abbadon, humans and forgotten clashed, could very well be that some of the forgotten went trough unstable evolutions just like the margonites.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/0/0f/Krait_Hypnoss.jpg – Krait we know and love today for pulling us into hugs
http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/d/dd/Krait_Necross.jpg – Forgotten and Humans mixed pretty much
http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/2/20/Krait_Neoss.jpg – Largos like evolution line
http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/4/44/Krait_Devouss.jpg – South (kuunavang) Dragon evolution
http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/7/77/Krait_Arcanoss.jpg – North (elder) Dragon evolution

The krait are not in the same location where Abaddon clashed with the others – that was the Crystal Sea, aka now the Crystal Desert. Krait come from the depths of the Unending Ocean – very different location.

The Forgotten are said to come from the Mists, so it seems highly unlikely that they are related to the krait – just as they are not related to the naga (whom look more krait-like than the four-armed Forgotten).

The krait seemed to have lost their metamorphosis (btw, not an evolution) between GW1 and GW2, as well as having lost their viper-like look; it could just be a redesign but nonetheless there’s another thread on that here. The leviathan are described as being their own kind of sea creature, so I doubt that they’re just a super-metamorphesized krait when we don’t see krait metamorphesizing in GW2.

BTW, the Jade Maw is a kraken – either GW2’s redesign of the things, or a twisted form made such by the Mists. In the Solid Oceanic Fractal, we can even see a wurm entrapped in jade – this is likely the new look for the GW1 Leviathans. They’ll probably be made to look like the Undersea Wurms should we ever go to Cantha and the Jade Sea.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

The krait are not in the same location where Abaddon clashed with the others – that was the Crystal Sea, aka now the Crystal Desert. Krait come from the depths of the Unending Ocean – very different location.

You mean the giant piece of water right to the southwest of the Crystal Desert (and directly connected to it if you go to the southeast), the sea we sail on to get to the kitten Crystal Desert? Ok then New York has nothing to do with the North Atlantic because there is other land there.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

The Forgotten are said to come from the Mists, so it seems highly unlikely that they are related to the krait – just as they are not related to the naga (whom look more krait-like than the four-armed Forgotten).

Forgotten arent “from the mists”, just like humans, the 5 (or 6) gods migrated them to Tyria. Naga kinda obviously aint related to krait nor forgotten since they have humanoid skulls, normal hands and for some reason cloth to cover themself but not as armor.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

The krait seemed to have lost their metamorphosis (btw, not an evolution) between GW1 and GW2, as well as having lost their viper-like look; it could just be a redesign but nonetheless there’s another thread on that here. The leviathan are described as being their own kind of sea creature, so I doubt that they’re just a super-metamorphesized krait when we don’t see krait metamorphesizing in GW2.

http://bestgamewallpapers.com/files/guild-wars-prophecies/serpent.jpg – got your forgotten, now compare to the south krait dragon metamorph; btw it is evolution, because adulthood via physical mutations; aka metamorphosis; allows for a better genertical and hormonal exchange, thus it would mean if there is enough genetical variance it could end up with differnt types of the same race that dont depend on adapting in their larval stage. Btw amongst the murals and obelisks in ascalon about the human gods and forgotten we got a dragons head, a “forgotten” that surprisingly looks really like our current krait (spiky gauntlets/arms included) and a eastern type dragon but with full grown arms and legs.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

BTW, the Jade Maw is a kraken – either GW2’s redesign of the things, or a twisted form made such by the Mists. In the Solid Oceanic Fractal, we can even see a wurm entrapped in jade – this is likely the new look for the GW1 Leviathans. They’ll probably be made to look like the Undersea Wurms should we ever go to Cantha and the Jade Sea.

Didnt say it wasnt, just that it is probably a mutation (with the other 2 life forms we know that lived in the same zones and had a mostly symbiotic relationship) if we compare it to the old krakens that were just floating squids.

Andele.1306:

Konig Des Todes.2086:

The krait are not in the same location where Abaddon clashed with the others – that was the Crystal Sea, aka now the Crystal Desert. Krait come from the depths of the Unending Ocean – very different location.

You mean the giant piece of water right to the southwest of the Crystal Desert (and directly connected to it if you go to the southeast), the sea we sail on to get to the kitten Crystal Desert? Ok then New York has nothing to do with the North Atlantic because there is other land there.

No, I mean the huge blot of sand that was ONCE a sea but isn’t any longer. Abaddon fell at “The Mouth of Torment”: which is not very much landlocked but when he fell, was the coast of the Crystal Sea.

What you’re doing is saying that the Great Lakes is “more or less the same place” as the Hudson River.

Andele.1306:

Forgotten arent “from the mists”, just like humans, the 5 (or 6) gods migrated them to Tyria. Naga kinda obviously aint related to krait nor forgotten since they have humanoid skulls, normal hands and for some reason cloth to cover themself but not as armor.

You just contradicted yourself.

You claim the Forgotten aren’t from the Mists.

But then you claim that the Six Gods migrated them to Tyria like humanity.

Guess where humanity came from? That’s right the Mists.

And Naga skulls aren’t really humanoid at all. And krait cover themselves with clothing too, btw, and have “normal hands” (as normal as naga hands).

Andele.1306:

http://bestgamewallpapers.com/files/guild-wars-prophecies/serpent.jpg – got your forgotten, now compare to the south krait dragon metamorph; btw it is evolution, because adulthood via physical mutations; aka metamorphosis; allows for a better genertical and hormonal exchange, thus it would mean if there is enough genetical variance it could end up with differnt types of the same race that dont depend on adapting in their larval stage. Btw amongst the murals and obelisks in ascalon about the human gods and forgotten we got a dragons head, a “forgotten” that surprisingly looks really like our current krait (spiky gauntlets/arms included) and a eastern type dragon but with full grown arms and legs.

Nothing says that’s a forgotten, technically. This is a forgotten. Doesn’t look like that concept art.

And I wouldn’t put much stock on those “dragon heads” as being krait. The murals existed roughly 7 years before the krait look like they do now.

well they (the bones) look like that huge thing from the manifesto trailer that we never got around to see in-game. which in turn was the first thing i thought of when SoS spoilersthe maw attacked cobiah's ship early in the book

Konig Des Todes.2086:

What you’re doing is saying that the Great Lakes is “more or less the same place” as the Hudson River.
You just contradicted yourself.

You claim the Forgotten aren’t from the Mists.

But then you claim that the Six Gods migrated them to Tyria like humanity.

Guess where humanity came from? That’s right the Mists.

And Naga skulls aren’t really humanoid at all. And krait cover themselves with clothing too, btw, and have “normal hands” (as normal as naga hands).

Nothing says that’s a forgotten, technically. This is a forgotten. Doesn’t look like that concept art.

And I wouldn’t put much stock on those “dragon heads” as being krait. The murals existed roughly 7 years before the krait look like they do now.

They are pretty much the same in terms of major geographical landmarks (if we downscaled tyia to their size) and biological connection and how species between them interact.

No i dont because the gods didnt summon stuff in the mists, the mists is a space in between worlds/realms as UW clearly tells us (you know the entire river of souls thing).
Forgotten just as Humans are a race migrated to Tyria; or is every mexican person in the US from the Pan-American Highway instead of Mexico?

Naga http://www.guildmag.com/wp-content/uploads/Naga_Shing_Jea_caster.png
Human skull http://www.daviddarling.info/images/human_skull_side.jpg

Krait (and forgotten as link shows) http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/GmrLeon00/Guild%20Wars%20lore/Krait9.jpg?t=1248250152
Snake Skull http://www.snakes-uncovered.com/images/viperskull6.jpg

You can also see the difference between fangs and hands on the pictures (forgotten being in between/the state current krait are at).

Also no those dragon heads i mean the old mesmer krait look suspiciously like those and the forgotten caster bosses (or for some reason if kralky had another minion).

Also Ascalon, go there (gw1) you get that image (mural in there) clearly saying forgotten or if you have it the guild hall using Isle of the Dead, you get the replica of it (copy pasted assets but for the sake of lore a “replica”).

@Bruno: That’s probably because the thing from the Manifesto trailer… was a Leviathan.

@Andele: The Crystal Sea – which no longer exists and was an inland sea between Tyria and Elona – is vastly different from the Unending Ocean, which divides the supercontinent of Tyria/Elona from Cantha.

The Mists is more than just “a space in between worlds/realms” – it’s the building blocks of life as well as the afterlife, which means it is where the Underworld and the like reside. Besides, when folks say “brought from the Mists” they usually mean “brought through the Mists”. Does that clarify it for you? Must I use nitpickery vocabulary?

Don’t forget that there are three other naga types – one of which is very cobra-like, and another very krait-like. And besides, the one naga you link… still doesn’t have a human-like head. Sure, the naga have more human-like heads than krait (well, the caster naga do), but that’s not saying much when the other kinds of naga don’t.

And you should try using GW2 krait images, rather than GW1 krait images, since it’s point blank obvious that they got a total overhaul in looks between the two games. The krait in GW2 aren’t nearly as slim as the krait in GW1.

The Ascalon mural of the “dragon heads” doesn’t look like Forgotten. It’s most likely meant to be a depiction of Glint – if not just a random design put in with no lore meaning, which is highly possible given the state of Prophecies.

And I’ve played GW1, I’ve looked at those murals. That snake isn’t ever stated to be a Forgotten. Ever. If it is and I’m wrong, please provide an image or other source of it being stated to be a forgotten.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

It’s far too unclear to say what area we’re looking at in the video, unless we’re not talking about the same manifesto trailer. You get such a brief look at it, and it just show a shark and some fishes in the background. It could have been recorded nearly anywhere.

If the Leviathan is still anywhere in the game, it would be much closer to home than that.

That’s what I thought first. But then when you look at it carefully, the kind of water clarity in the video isn’t found everywhere, even the surroundings (the landscape, the bubbles).
I could be wrong, because it was clear that the Leviathan wasn’t in the game, so I didn’t spend too much time trying to find the exact spot.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

@Bruno: That’s probably because the thing from the Manifesto trailer… was a Leviathan.

one would assume as much (i do), but as far as we know, it’s just a teaser to a boss fight that never got out of paper. i just felt it was worth pointing out that the giant bones in southsun are not the first time we saw an in-game leviathan, even if technically it’s not in the game.

I do believe it got confirmed as being a leviathan, actually.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

I do believe it got confirmed as being a leviathan, actually.

well, point stands: they have an in-game model tucked somewhere, just waiting for a good reason to be used (maybe when they redo the entire underwater combat to make it better >.> ). i should’ve mentioned, i couldn’t be assed to read the entire thread before posting, which is why i limited my post to a mere comment :P

Konig Des Todes.2086:

@Andele: The Crystal Sea – which no longer exists and was an inland sea between Tyria and Elona – is vastly different from the Unending Ocean, which divides the supercontinent of Tyria/Elona from Cantha.

The Mists is more than just “a space in between worlds/realms” – it’s the building blocks of life as well as the afterlife, which means it is where the Underworld and the like reside. Besides, when folks say “brought from the Mists” they usually mean “brought through the Mists”. Does that clarify it for you? Must I use nitpickery vocabulary?

Don’t forget that there are three other naga types – one of which is very cobra-like, and another very krait-like. And besides, the one naga you link… still doesn’t have a human-like head. Sure, the naga have more human-like heads than krait (well, the caster naga do), but that’s not saying much when the other kinds of naga don’t.

And you should try using GW2 krait images, rather than GW1 krait images, since it’s point blank obvious that they got a total overhaul in looks between the two games. The krait in GW2 aren’t nearly as slim as the krait in GW1.

The Ascalon mural of the “dragon heads” doesn’t look like Forgotten. It’s most likely meant to be a depiction of Glint – if not just a random design put in with no lore meaning, which is highly possible given the state of Prophecies.

And I’ve played GW1, I’ve looked at those murals. That snake isn’t ever stated to be a Forgotten. Ever. If it is and I’m wrong, please provide an image or other source of it being stated to be a forgotten.

Look at comments above replied to everything you are just making a circular argument out of it.
Murals clearly state FORGOTTEN when you click at it.
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Forgotten – second image on page with links to the locations where you can see it (3 as it turns out not just 2).
Just as “From the mists” would imply something could actually live in the mists as themself (what even the gods cannot do, living in their own little pocket realms like the mortals of tyra do too) than came trough the mists from one realm to another.

You should pay more attention. If I’m circling arguments, it’s because you’re doing the same as well.

1) That is a fan-made site – there’s nothing official stating that mural’s of a forgotten.

2) From http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page "Welcome to GuildWars Wikia,
an unofficial fanfic wiki for ArenaNet’s Competitive Online RPG, Guild Wars. "

That wiki’s just one big ol’ fan-fiction. I.e., it’s not reporting everything to accuracy, it makes kitten up from time to time. From the standpoint of accuracies of the wikis, the official wikis are the most accurate – but even they, especially GW2W hold many inaccuracies. Don’t trust any wiki as a word-of-truth, since they can literally be edited by anyone and everyone into anything and everything.

On the Mists portion – you really don’t understand what the Mists are, do you? It is a place, the Underworld resides within the Mists, so does the Rift, so does just about everything truth be told. When it is said “from the Mists” it means either “not from the world of Tyria” or “created directly from the Mists.” That’s all. Technically speaking, nothing yet everything is “from the Mists” since the Mists surrounds all life – e.g., all life is within the Mists, including the world of Tyria. And all things have their origins to the Mists as well, since it is the source of all creation.

I already clarified what I meant, humanity and the forgotten are not native to the world of Tyria as far as we’re told. That’s what I meant, which means the krait which are native to the world of Tyria as far as we’re told, are not related to the forgotten like you speculated.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/Dakkie-Boy/The%20guys/Guild%20Wars%20Lore/ScrollHall.jpg – Room
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/Azazel_90/Guild%20Wars/Points%20of%20Interest/gw005-1.jpg – Dragon
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20051026224434/gw/images/1/14/ForgottenMural.jpg – Forgotten
GO IN GAME, if you played it enough to know basic lore you got at least one location unlocked, proof is there.
Mists are the place between the worlds, Underworld, Tyria, FoW, etc are all connected with it you dimwit, just as earth and the milky way are connected with other solar systems trough the universe, that doesnt mean you can breathe in the void of space,
Last im saying Krait and Forgotten have a identical pattern in migration when compared and set against humans.

That wiki’s just one big ol’ fan-fiction. I.e., it’s not reporting everything to accuracy, it makes kitten up from time to time. From the standpoint of accuracies of the wikis, the official wikis are the most accurate – but even they, especially GW2W hold many inaccuracies. Don’t trust any wiki as a word-of-truth, since they can literally be edited by anyone and everyone into anything and everything. – thanks for being proof for your own point as the history on the wiki shows you edit it.

Andele.1306:

Mists are the place between the worlds, Underworld, Tyria, FoW, etc are all connected with it you dimwit,

As soon as you feel the need to resort to name calling, that usually means you’ve lost the argument to someone more mature.

Just saying.

Andele.1306:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/Dakkie-Boy/The%20guys/Guild%20Wars%20Lore/ScrollHall.jpg – Room
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/Azazel_90/Guild%20Wars/Points%20of%20Interest/gw005-1.jpg – Dragon
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20051026224434/gw/images/1/14/ForgottenMural.jpg – Forgotten
GO IN GAME, if you played it enough to know basic lore you got at least one location unlocked, proof is there.

No, proof is not there.

Nothing really even says that dragon stain glass mural is Primordus. We see the image in game, but what it depicts – like all other EotN dungeon murals – is never stated from a lore viewpoint. The best we get is when we have the title of the concept art that’s used, in which case the so-called “forgotten mural” is only ever called “serpent.”

You keep saying there’s proof, but all you’re doing is repeatedly showing that the mural’s in the game and that the playerbase calls it of forgotten.

Andele.1306:

Mists are the place between the worlds, Underworld, Tyria, FoW, etc are all connected with it you dimwit, just as earth and the milky way are connected with other solar systems trough the universe, that doesnt mean you can breathe in the void of space,

The Mists isn’t space. The Rift is outright stated to be within the Mists in the Prophecies manual (see online entry here ). The Underworld is outright stated to be within the Mists in Eye of the North (Let all who read this know the glory of <character name>, whose mighty deeds have restored order to the realm of the dead! Grenth himself owes honor to the one who crossed into the Mists, hunted foul demons beyond the doors of death, and brought Grenth’s justice to the legions of Dhuum. ) – and I’m sure that it’s also explicitly stated that the Realm of Torment and Fissure of Woe are within the Mists as well.

Andele.1306:

Last im saying Krait and Forgotten have a identical pattern in migration when compared and set against humans.

Really? What are these “patterns in migration” exactly, because what you’ve claimed is an unsupported proclamation that the forgotten and krait are related. Which unless either the history of the krait isn’t what’s currently hinted to be or the history of the forgotten is proven to be different than what Thaddeus Lamount claims (wouldn’t be too surprising there given current info), that’s just not the case. Keep in mind that in GW1, the krait used a lot of model retexturing (like many things in Eye of the North) and that as I said their appearance has drastically changed.

Until we’re told a lore reason for the appearance change, it is safer to believe that the krait simply got retconned. Same going for the kraken appearance.

Andele.1306:

thanks for being proof for your own point as the history on the wiki shows you edit it.

I do no edit wikia. I do periodically edit GWW and used to edit GW2W but that doesn’t mean that the wiki’s perfect or fullproof. There’s thousands of articles in each, making it impossible for any small group of people – or even a large group of people – to maintain accuracy throughout the wiki.