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Posted by: Luke.1402

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Can Queen Jenna defend herself? Defend I mean as attacking. If so, I’m curious as to what class she is. I’ve never seen her fight, she just lets the guards do everything and runs away. I’d love to see Queen Jenna unleash her powerful attacks, seeing people who don’t usually attack, attack, makes me EXCITED.

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Posted by: Maethor.2810

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Jennah is a Mesmer and as far as I can recall we don’t see her in combat in game. If you’re interested in her in a combat situation, I recommend you pick up the GW2 book “Edge of Destiny” (though she doesn’t directly fight it still will give you some insight).

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

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She’s a mesmer, but she may approach the profession in a different way to PC mesmers. Usually, when in a combat situation, she raises a shield that has so far proven impenetrable for as long as she can maintain it, but in Edge of Destiny she has illusions and mind-magic well beyond anything a PC can do.

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Posted by: Rognik.2579

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Jennah does tend to be the designated Damsel in Distress. If she’s involved in a story, she’s almost always trying to be killed, kidnapped, or both. I’m not sure we’ve ever seen her attack anyone, and I wonder if she has any offensive magic spells, but she does have some powerful defensive mesmer spells. Her defense of Ebonhawke in Edge of Destiny does show pretty well how powerful her magic can be.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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She probably never really learned any offensive spells for a few reasons. One being that she’s always accompanied by Shining Blade – and almost always with Anise, who’s also a very powerful mesmer. The other being that it could be viewed as “unsightly” for a person of such fine upbringing to attack others (such mentality seldom thinks about self-defense though). Under such, it isn’t too hard to believe that Jennah was only taught to use defensive spells – like paralyzing large groups of people (EoD) or creating an impenetrable bubble (Caudecus’ Manor + The World Summit) or illusionary copies of herself (Kellach’s Attack + Closing Ceremony) – though arguably the last one could have been Anise’s doing.

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Posted by: VergilDeZaniah.3295

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Didn’t she summon a sword during Scarlet’s attack on Crown Pavilion?

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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If you refer to the Opening Ceremony, I don’t recall her doing anything, but I wasn’t focusing on her and it was once per account. She wasn’t even present for the Closing Ceremony.

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Posted by: VergilDeZaniah.3295

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You’re right, it was during the Opening Ceremoney, she uses a one-handed swords like a greatsword (and she summons her bubble too), here’s a video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxe_Mxv7mlQ#t=248

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Posted by: Purecura.1795

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Queen Jenna can very well fight. I take personal interest in the Lore surrounding my favorite profession. Anise and Jenna are one of the most powerful Mesmers we know according to the lore, and both can very well defend themselves in battle using offensive spells.

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Posted by: Genlog.4983

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i only see her doing a kind of shield that no1 can penetrate how she learn that i dunno its not rely a mesmer skill ??

not for so long

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Posted by: Tobias Trueflight.8350

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She can defend herself, mostly until her Shining Blade handlers swoop in and remove the threat. Or get her out of trouble.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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@Purecura: Not everyone has the same capabilities in magic though, it all differs based on teaching. So with NPCs, we can only judge based on what we see.

And we don’t see Jennah attacking with magic.

Jennah may be one of the most powerful mesmers known, but that doesn’t mean that she has amongst the most versatile of capabilities either.

@Genlog: NPCs are capable of doing things that PCs cannot. This would include Jennah’s bubble skill, which the closest in immitation we players get, in regards to mesmer skills, would be Chaos Armor (same animation); though in functionality, it’s closer to Fire Shield.

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Posted by: Squee.7829

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We know, if nothing else, she can make a convincing enough replica of an Elder Dragon to fool its minions. Not that they’re exactly the pinnacle of intelligence though, probably. They seem to be pretty much single minded minions. But being able to do a certain trick very well, or being “well versed in Mesmer arts” does not necessarily mean she’s a good fighter. So, if the question is, is she a good mesmer, then probably. Or at least prone to random outbursts of brilliance in the field. But we don’t know how well she’d do using those skills aggressively. If she got attacked, would her spells do any real damage? Or will they just be tricks, like her ED replica. Or will she just shut down completely and cry? So I guess we don’t have much to go on in the way of “can she defend herself”.

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

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It’s possibly worth noting here that Jennah’s illusion of turning her allies into stone was convincing enough that they believed it enough to be actually immobilised. So it’s quite likely that she can craft illusions that can kill.

Whether she can do so in a combat-relevant timescale is another question – something the people who claim Jennah never needed to summon Logan miss is that crafting the Kralkatorrik illusion probably required the time that Logan bought.

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Posted by: Silvercyclone.1462

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I think shes the Professor X of humans.

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Posted by: Palador.2170

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She seems to be very powerful at large scale spells and illusions, but other than her bubble she also seems to be of normal power at more normal range.

Even if she could hold her own in a direct fight, she’s not using her powers to her full advantage when doing so, and I’m sure that makes her feel weaker. So, she tends to be defensive in those cases.

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Posted by: WereDragon.6083

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Didn’t she cloak the entirety of Ebonhawk behind an illusion in edge of destiny? I could very well be mistaken though.

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

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She made all the defenders look like they’d been turned into stone, so convincing that for a while they thought they had been turned to stone themselves, as well as making an illusion of Kralkatorrik that was good enough to fool Branded.

However, she didn’t do so instantly, so her magic may be better suited to ‘perform a half hour ritual to turn the tide of a battle while other people hold the line’ than being suitable as a front-line combatant herself.

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Posted by: Angel.4918

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Can Queen Jenna defend herself?

Hi, guys! This is an interesting question. Queen Jenna can defend herself, but because she is an extremely valuable individual, her defenders prefer not to take the risk. Thus, she is rushed away from danger immediately, as are most presidents of modern countries.

Sometimes, if the potential for danger is strong enough, she’s been known to use an illusion to represent herself, as at the Queen’s Jubilee.

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Can Queen Jenna defend herself?

Hi, guys! This is an interesting question. Queen Jenna can defend herself, but because she is an extremely valuable individual, her defenders prefer not to take the risk. Thus, she is rushed away from danger immediately, as are most presidents of modern countries.

Sometimes, if the potential for danger is strong enough, she’s been known to use an illusion to represent herself, as at the Queen’s Jubilee.

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

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So I’m guessing that in this context, her invulnerability shield is one that she needs to channel, preventing her from fighting back while it’s up – like many PC skills, except it can be channeled for longer?

Thus, if she wasn’t such an important individual, she’d fight back more directly, but since she is, she uses the shield to defer the moment where she becomes vulnerable for as long as possible?

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Posted by: Erukk.1408

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Can Queen Jenna defend herself?

Hi, guys! This is an interesting question. Queen Jenna can defend herself, but because she is an extremely valuable individual, her defenders prefer not to take the risk. Thus, she is rushed away from danger immediately, as are most presidents of modern countries.

I guess the better question would be, if she was ever put into a situation where she had to defend herself, just how well could she actually do so? We know that she has excellent skill set of defensive and diversionary spells and abilities, but do her offensive skills match at all?

Also, hypothetically of course, if Jennah ever felt the need could she shoot out Spatial Surge blasts out of her eyes Cyclops-style?

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Posted by: Purecura.1795

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I’d like to assume that Queen Jenna can defend herself offensively very well if need be. But she prefers to use defensive Mesmer Magic first rather than offensive for reasons stated by Angel. She is Valuable, and with that said, it’s best The Queen uses magic to repel and defend herself first rather than join a fight if her defenders are present.

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

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As Vergil points out above, we HAVE actually seen Jennah fight before. During the Crown Pavilion opening ceremony, she did actually pull out a one-handed sword and get physical. (She didn’t even use Blurred Frenzy though. Noob!)

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Posted by: narwhalsbend.7059

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It’s possibly worth noting here that Jennah’s illusion of turning her allies into stone was convincing enough that they believed it enough to be actually immobilised. So it’s quite likely that she can craft illusions that can kill.

Creating illusions that affect others or yourself have been a cornerstone of mesmers since GW1. A skill like “Imagined Burden” made the foe moves 50% slower. If everyday mesmers could do it 250 years ago, I don’t think it shows anything about the power of Jennah.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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I think drax’s point was not “this is something only Jennah can do” but rather “if she can paralyze a mass field of soldiers, she likely has the ability to kill someone too.”

And given that the novel says that said allies she had forgot to breath while paralyzed, that’s very true. If she held the illusion long enough, they would have suffocated.

Though trying to compare Imagined Burden – a single target movement-slowing skill – to what Jennah did (paralyze a field of soldiers, convince hive-mind branded that said paralyzed soldiers were also branded, and create an illusion convincing enough for said branded to think the illusion was real) is very foolhardy. The two are ballparks apart – it’d be like comparing Animate Bone Minions to Vizier Khilbron’s ability to control an entire army of undead.

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Posted by: narwhalsbend.7059

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I think drax’s point was not “this is something only Jennah can do” but rather “if she can paralyze a mass field of soldiers, she likely has the ability to kill someone too.”

And given that the novel says that said allies she had forgot to breath while paralyzed, that’s very true. If she held the illusion long enough, they would have suffocated.

Though trying to compare Imagined Burden – a single target movement-slowing skill – to what Jennah did (paralyze a field of soldiers, convince hive-mind branded that said paralyzed soldiers were also branded, and create an illusion convincing enough for said branded to think the illusion was real) is very foolhardy. The two are ballparks apart – it’d be like comparing Animate Bone Minions to Vizier Khilbron’s ability to control an entire army of undead.

Ahh I see, he was judging her power by scale, not skill.

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

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Both, really. Most mesmer illusions are relatively simple in what they ask the target to believe – they create an illusion of something external to the target (Imagined Burden is essentially a, well, imaginary weight pushing down on the target) or just instill an emotion into the target (a technique that seems to have been largely lost since GW1, apart from confusion – mesmers don’t even have fear). Making somebody believe they have been physically transformed seems a big step up from either in complexity.

Of course, it’s possible that this is what’s really going on with Moa Morph – but even that’s an elite skill that only affects one target, when Jennah affected several. Furthermore, given the link between elder dragons in the minions, I would expect fooling them to require more than simply putting a hologram in the sky.

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Posted by: Big Tower.5423

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jennah was definivility fighting at the opening sermony- she’s got GS 1 (That surge thingie) I had a picture on my old computer, althogh not here.

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