Charr/Human treaty solves ghost problem?

Charr/Human treaty solves ghost problem?

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Posted by: Danikat.8537

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So, I was thinking – the Charr mention repeatedly that they want to get rid of the Ascalonian ghosts permenantly, and keep hoping they’ll find/create a weapon that will allow them to do that. But it seems to me they’ve already got one – Sohothin, Rytlock’s (and previously Rurik’s) sword.

Supposedly if a descendant of King Doric brings the sword to Ascalon City it will send all the ghosts to their rest permanently.

Until the start of GW2 this presented a big problem – the sword is owned by a charr who is not willing to give it up, the only known descendant of King Doric is Queen Jenah, and the city in question is in the heart of charr held territory where she couldn’t go.

However since the two groups negotiated a truce it seems like they have a solution. Rytlock and Jennah go together (with a large group of guards to help fight off the ghosts) to Ascalon City, he hands the sword over to her, she does whatever needs to be done with it and then gives it back.

The Charr gain themselves a land free of murderous ghosts, the humans gain a lot of goodwill from the Charr and increased safety for Ebonhawke and everyone is happy.

(I also think that with a little research it may not be necessary to risk the Queen. In GW1 we were told Salma was only one of the previous king’s illigitimate children, the others may well have living descendants too. Plus Adelbern was a common soldier for most of his life and yet he is apparently a descendant of King Doric. It’s entirely possible there are a lot of people who fit the bill. Honestly if/when this prophecy does come into play it wouldn’t surprise me if the list “happened” to include every single human player character, the same way we were all Chosen in GW1.)

Thoughts?

The only flaw I can see is that I might be taking this whole ‘bring the sword to the city’ thing a bit too literally. It’s possible it means she has to be going there to reclaim the city, and all of Ascalon, as a human kingdom and the sword is simply a sign of that, rather like Anduril in Lord of the Rings. But I haven’t seen anything to clarify it either way, and it seems like it should be worth a try just in case the simpler and more literal meaning is the correct one.

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Charr/Human treaty solves ghost problem?

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Posted by: Mystic Starfish.2586

Mystic Starfish.2586

Old question, but some things. Magdaer (adelbern’s sword) was in AC story mode, Eir took it to be reforged, and that’s all we know about that one, I think the intent was to give it to Logan or something. Jennah could bring the sword to Ascalon, but Wade Samuelsson, the guy who kind of leads Ebonhawke, is a Doric descendant, so he’s more than capable of doing the same thing.
The treaty imo will go through regardless of the ghosts being gone, but I think that the purification will occur afterwards as a sign of good faith. You scratch our back, we’ll scratch yours (let’s kill dragons, then ghostbust)

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

draxynnic.3719

Just what it is that will make that legend come true (if it really is a possible way to undo the Foefire) has been a controversial topic for a while. It could be as simple that being a member of the royal line allows the power of the swords to be unlocked, meaning a descendant of Doric with one of the royal swords can undo the Foefire under pretty much any circumstances.

However, it’s possible that the ghosts have a say in judging whether they see someone as the ‘true king of Ascalon’, and that makes things more complicated. Keep in mind that most ghosts attack anything sapient, humans included, because they assume any living human must be collaborating with the charr (and from their twisted point of view, this is technically correct for all but the Separatists). A deal to dispel the ghosts so that the charr can essentially complete their conquest of Ascalon (minus whatever hinterlands they cede to Ebonhawke) may not be one the ghosts would accept. The prospective exorcist might have to persuade the ghosts that their departure is going to allow Ascalon to be repopulated by humans. It may even be that nothing short of the total withdrawal of the charr from Foefire-affected regions will be enough to placate them (and that’s not likely to happen).

Or, it could be that the legend has no basis in fact, and nothing short of containment, obliteration, or individual exorcism of the ghosts will remove the ghosts from what was once Ascalon.

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