Draconic Corruption a physical process?

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Posted by: Stephen.6312

Stephen.6312

The corruption of the Elder Dragons seems to be as much a physical process as a psychological one. When we consider each of the Dragons, no matter how they begin to corrupt living beings, this corruption seems to end in the physical transformation of the corrupted. In the case of Jormag, the corrupted turn to ice; Kralkatorik, crystal; Zaithan, putrified flesh. In the case of Primordus, however, the cycle of corruption is not as obvious (indeed, you could argue that Primordus simply “destroys” things) and a number of posters have suggested that he does not corrupt living beings at all. (A counter argument would be that Primordus turns them into liquid rock. The process of corruption is almost instantaneous meaning it is easily missed. On a side note, it could be that the Dwarves walked into it when they turned to stone as they may now be capable of “turning”, as it were, to Primordus, without being consumed. They did turn to stone based on an inaccurate understanding of the situation and this could have dire consequences for the dwarves) The same could be said of “Bubbles”, our affectionately-named deep sea dragon, whose powers we have yet to see in action. He may not corrupt things either. Just as mysteriously, we have no real example of the corruption of the mysterious jungle dragon. Some have suggested that he poisons things, citing the potent death blossoms of Twilight Arbor as proof. It is more likely, however, that Mordremoth spreads fungal infection (hence we see examples of blighted grubs, husks and so on). So you could make a case for Mordremoth’s corruption being a physical process too. What we need to understand, however, is that all of these forms of corruption have something to do with the land herself.
What I mean by this is that the source of each of these forms of corruption is from a form of earth-based resource – something naturally occurring close to, on, or under the ground.

Thus, Primordus’ corruption is rising from the deepest regions of Tyria in a form of molten rock. Kralkatorik, likewise, is corrupting from the rock of Tyria, turning the corrupted into crystal (the process of crystallization being a key part of the process of rock formation). Jormag corrupts from the frozen wastes of Tyria, turning his corrupt into the ice of the ground. Mordremoth may corrupt from the ground, spreading fungal infection. The deep sea dragon corrupts from the depths of the sea, perhaps from a base as deep as if not deeper than that of Primordus – a place close to the heart of Tyria. Zaithan also corrupts from the ground, primarily in the form of raising the dead from it. Moreover, his (apparent) power over the cycle of death within Tyria also involved the restoration of a piece of land (ground) from the depths. All of these Elder Dragons have some connection to the land itself. It’s almost as though Tyria herself might be working through them to some end.

We are left pondering why the Elder Dragons have emerged from the depths of Tyria herself rather than the Mists and why their corruption seems (because in at least four cases, arguably five, it does) to result in the physical transformation of the corrupted. We could just be spectacularizing for the sake of it, or we may have hit on something important that needs to be explored for the good of all Tyrians.

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Posted by: Greyalis.2309

Greyalis.2309

some believe pale tree and the Sylvari’s existence is because of a dragon’s corruption upon the earth. Primarily the dragon in the starting zone, one of a plant elemental.

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Posted by: Edusd.7893

Edusd.7893

@Greyalis the dragon you refer to, is just a representation of the PC’s wild hunt to destroy Zhaitan. You can find threads in this forum discussing this topic at great length.

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Posted by: Greyalis.2309

Greyalis.2309

Your theory is interesting. I had previously thought the five dragons represented corruptions, or more specifically “transformations” exhibited in elements of nature—crystal/electricity/energy or in fantasy sometimes air, undead/life, ice/water, lava/earth, water or maybe krait, and perhaps a hidden sixth transformation. Perhaps not specifically only a corruption, but an actual observed cycle exhibited in nature. Your suspicion on primordus isn’t just speculation though—can he not create “the destroyers”, minions from rock and lava, and aren’t Krait believed perhaps to be minions of the Deep Sea Dragon?

To extrapolate on your theory take the entrance to The Crucible of Eternity as perhaps a clue.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

On phone so gonna be short if possible. Will post again in more detail. Regarding Primordus, it seems the situation is that he can but doesn’t corrupt living beings. Sources:
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/uploads/gallery/album_163/gallery_3318_163_39486.png
http://www.guildmag.com/magazine/issue9/interview.htm

The living he would corrupt – though we have not knowingly seen such – is hinted to corrupt in a similar manner to icebrood. Where icebrood slowly turn to ice from outside in, living being destroyers would be coated in rock and then twisted beneath that rock, eventually becoming it. It woulsnt be instantaneous per the devs.

Do note that when the corruption scenario for Primordus was given, it was in response to a question asking if the final boss of the Volcanic Fractal is a crawl corrupted by Primordus. Which seems to be that’s how Primordus would corrupt living beings.

About the dwarves – honestly, their mentality mimics that of ED corruption. Unified mind with fanatic levels of devotion, bodies transformed to an element… My belief is that the ritual reverted them to their original form which was a creation made to mimic Elder Dragon corruption – perhaps as a prototype magic to the ritual which freed Glint. Event if it wasn’t their original form, it’d be possible to have been a prototype spell.

As to the Elder Dragons rising from the depths rather than the Mists. They’ve been sleeping for supposedly 10,000 years, if not an extra 1,000 – and at the least, 3,000 years if a theory of mine is right. They would sink just as ancient structures would. It is no wonder at all why the Elder Dragons were at least partially buried. On the Mists though, I think the Mists hold the key to removing the Elder Dragon influence. Forgotten supposedly come from the Mists, and the gods possibly cleansed some corruption when they arrived on the world. And the Dream of Dreams holds similarities to the Mists hinting a link – thus possibly being why sylvari are immune.

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Posted by: Stephen.6312

Stephen.6312

I wanted to add some further thoughts to this post, if only because searching through the forums is quite tedious and I am hard-pressed to find the original thread that I was reading in. A poster in this thread presented a theory that Kralkatorrik’s corruption could be likened to the process of crystallization. The poster suggested that it was the presence of water in the various branded that was the reason for the corruption. I just wanted to write that I thought the theory was plausible. Possibly it would be better to say that it is the presence of trace elements in a solution that is directly behind this crystallisation. Jormag’s corruption also involves crystallization and his is more specifically related to the presence of water in beings. But whereas Jormag’s process is related to the cooling of water (so that the water itself is crystallized in creatures) Kralkatorrik’s crystallization is related to the reformation of minerals present in the various things the Elder Dragon flew over/breathed upon. This explains why the water over which Kralkatorrik flew was “untouched”.

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Posted by: Rainbow Sprint.3215

Rainbow Sprint.3215

@Greyalis the dragon you refer to, is just a representation of the PC’s wild hunt to destroy Zhaitan. You can find threads in this forum discussing this topic at great length.

You saw A dragon, we’re not sure which one. We say it’s zhaitan because that’s how the PS ended, but it could be it is the jungle dragon that you’re meant to defeat. While in the dream you see visions of asura, golems, and skritt. Why would those visions have such a clear form (You could easily tell what they were), yet suddenly the vision of “zhaitan” you have has a nature theme to him within the dream, while nothing else does.

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Posted by: Beetle.2476

Beetle.2476

No sylvari has seen zhaitan up close, so the pale tree didn’t know what it looks like.

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Posted by: Thalador.4218

Thalador.4218

Caithe has seen him when she was exploring Orr with Faolain. She tells you in the Omphalos Chamber in one of the instances of the lvl 11-20 steps.

Not sure if Trahearne has seen him as well…

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

Caithe said she was the only sylvari to have seen Zhaitan and lived in that instance – the same instance in which the Pale Tree claims the Shadow of the Dragon to be a representation of Zhaitan and the PC’s Wyld Hunt to kill it. Which was the end of the lvl 1-10 story step when you meet the Mother Tree at the very end, and are informed that Trahearne has returned from Orr and you’re told to meet him (which triggers the second storyline).

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.