Dragon woes (minor spoilers)

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Posted by: Triconis.4835

Triconis.4835

I have seen a few topics a little like this but I would like to know people’s opinions on this.

I have currently returned to playing GW2 after a short time of being frankly bored with the content. I was doing exams and had little time to keep up with the updated content and found myself pretty much left behind and had no idea who all these new characters were and why everyone was bashing clockwork things.

I would like to say I love most aspects of GW2, the pvp, the mechanics, the stunning zones and exploration but there is one aspect which I just cannot overlook.

Dragons.

Massive primeval forces of destruction which are nearly invincible. My character simply feels like dragon chow without the power of airships and technology (none of which I had a hand in creating so I’m pretty much a pact puppet.) I can’t help feeling anyone can pull the trigger on a massive space gun and so the skills and gear I have acquired over the story-line are largely irrelevant. Now I know it takes time and effort to get to Zhaitan but I cant help thinking that creating loads of these things means GW2 will now become a Dragon slaying grind.

GW1 had the Charr, Stone Summit, Shining Blade, Undead, White Mantle, Khilbron and loads more all intertwining and with their own agendas in the first story. Then Cantha with its political intrigue and Elona and fighting a god. There was so much variety and depth to the enemies and stories which kept it vibrant and fresh. From an RP perspective I find it hard to swallow that we should walk around Tyria thinking “Oh hey I know there are massive Dragons about to destroy the entire world at any moment but I’m going to have to put that on hold because there are some Charr and Dredge leaving a few scorch marks on the Shiverpeaks.”

I see what the devs are trying to do but I can’t help thinking that they’ve really set out the course of future content and from here it looks like a future littered with minion bashing followed by a dragon fight at least 3 more times.

TL;DR – Anyone else worried that GW2 is going to end up a dragon slaying sim?

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

Aaron Ansari.1604

Short answer: yes.

Long answer: most of the threads on this forum about the future of GW2 (less so the ones from the last couple months; concerns about the Living Story have superseded concerns about dragons.)

R.I.P., Old Man of Auld Red Wharf. Gone but never forgotten.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

I heard that the Zhaitan fight was so poor due to being pressed for time (lol so much for “when it’s ready”), so future dragon fights should end up being far superior.

But with the route ArenaNet’s going, don’t expect another dragon! Ever! Cuz we got the “personal” nemesis aka Scarlet Briar to slap around for the next century – like any ol’ Saturday morning cartoon villain, she’ll just never die! 8D

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.

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Posted by: Triconis.4835

Triconis.4835

Hahaha yeah I suppose that’s looking likely.

It just feels like they’ve written themselves into a corner. When Factions came out we were called to Cantha to help with a plague which turned out to be Shiro, so we had to side with a political faction (which meant wiping their noses first) and then hunting him down. Then in Nightfall it turned out to be a a god toying with us all the whole time. It had connections and momentum and people with motivations and agendas.
I loved this about Guild Wars. I could get behind the characters and get involved with the story. Making the main antagonist some faceless unstoppable force of nature makes it very difficult to buy into the story.

Any further content seems likely to be living world content, which is hard to get excited about because it’s in such small chunks that it has no pace (and woe betide anyone who misses a chapter), or “Oh balls, another Dragon has popped up. Of you go and whack it then.” “Right ok” “And then all it’s brothers and sisters.”

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Posted by: Keyce.8137

Keyce.8137

Konig, haven’t the other Elder Dragons been awake for much longer than Zhaitan? I speak of Primordus, Kralk, and Jormag.

Triconis, most of what we do as the Commander of the Pact is leading the forces, because apparently we’re the only person in the entire world who can lead a squad to victory (except that part where we messed up). We’re like the equivalent of Diablo 3’s Nephalem: the only person who can do anything right, by themselves or with a group.

The other thing to remember is that while we did kill an Elder Dragon, he was severely weakened when we gouged out his Eyes and then ripped apart his Mouth (of Zhaitan).

It would be like if you fought a professional boxer who hadn’t had anything to drink in the last 24 hours AND hadn’t eaten food in over a week, and had no eyes. He wouldn’t have the energy to beat you to a pulp even if he could land a hit.

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

Aaron Ansari.1604

Primordus and Jormag have been awake significantly longer than Zhaitan- Primordus in particular has been up and kicking for nearly twice as long. Kralkatorrik, however, has been awake for less than a decade.

R.I.P., Old Man of Auld Red Wharf. Gone but never forgotten.

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Posted by: Shagaz.6209

Shagaz.6209

But with the route ArenaNet’s going, don’t expect another dragon! Ever! Cuz we got the “personal” nemesis aka Scarlet Briar to slap around for the next century – like any ol’ Saturday morning cartoon villain, she’ll just never die! 8D

And in the next update of Living Story heroes of Tyria will have to stop Scarlet before she changes all denizens of Tyria into chocolate cookies!!

Except those are not chocolates….
Those… Are….

-PLOT TWIST-

…Raisins…

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Posted by: Ludovicus.7980

Ludovicus.7980

I heard that the Zhaitan fight was so poor due to being pressed for time (lol so much for “when it’s ready”), so future dragon fights should end up being far superior.

But with the route ArenaNet’s going, don’t expect another dragon! Ever! Cuz we got the “personal” nemesis aka Scarlet Briar to slap around for the next century – like any ol’ Saturday morning cartoon villain, she’ll just never die! 8D

The way I see scarlet is like some minor bad guy, in the same league of pilaf in dragon ball.
If you compare her with the joker, you’ll be very dissapointed.
I don’t think there’s a problem with that. We don’t need all enemies to be serious or epic. Things feel epic when compared to other things.

The big mistake with Zhaitan is that he didn’t feel epic enough. And he still doesn’t. You’re just a pact recruit and you don’t have the strength in yourself to do something significant. I guess they’re building up epicness to the next dragon fight. Clearly Scarlet is a bigger threat than the aetherblades alone (I see them like the red ribbon army (dragonball)) and the aetherblades are a bigger threat than the molten alliance that was a bigger threat than the Karka.

So let the epicness build up little by little. And don’t worry.

The glory of my ancestors shall be restored.

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Posted by: Frosch.7809

Frosch.7809

I mostly agree with the OP’s post except that fighting another dragon seems to be unlikely. As far as i know there is no expansion being planned, instead we get the Living Story events which do not advance GW2’s original storyline and do not really change the world. Okay, the game mechanisms work in such a way that areas stay the same even after the fall of Zhaitan, but that speaks more FOR an expansion than against it. The world could stay like it is even with the fight against another Elder dragon. But we won’t get that.

So i would not worry about GW2 becoming a dragon slaying sim. I would worry about it becoming a Scarlet minion slaying sim instead, as Scarlet will most likely bother us for a long time from now on.

I would welcome an expansion (and would pay for it) which ends in a fight against another Elder dragon, and i think many players want the same.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig, haven’t the other Elder Dragons been awake for much longer than Zhaitan? I speak of Primordus, Kralk, and Jormag.

Primordus and Jormag, yes (Kralkatorrik woke up five – now six – years prior to the game), but what does that have to do with my post?

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.