Guild Wars 2

I wonder why I see so many rabbits at Frostgorge sound and related Norn maps, yet none of them are ever Icebrood. Nor have I seen a branded rabbit, nor a risen rabbit. Perhaps this is the answer to Tyria’s woes. Perhaps because they are never corrupted, these sentient bunnies are immune to dragon corruption. As it appears, maybe we don’t need any Charr, Asuran, Norn, Sylvari or Humans to stop the dragons… No, what we need are Jack-a-lops. Legions of them.

Also, why are there no Icebrood Jotun?

From what I’ve seen in game, there has to be a certain willingness to be corrupted by Jormag – the Sons of Svanir believe him to be a superior totem animal spirit and choose to follow. Maybe rabbits and other small animals are too simple to have the desires to be corrupted.

From the wiki:
“Unlike other Elder Dragons, Jormag doesn’t corrupt to enslave but rather gives promises of power to those it wants to corrupt…”

No Elder Dragon in their right mind would waste and effort in corrupting a being that takes 100000000% more damage from everything.

But, jack-a-lops ._.

1) Maybe rabbits weren’t indiginous to Orr and they’re too weak to bother making risen out of.
2) For other dragon minions, there’s a severe lack of model variety among them. Most icebrood you face are norn, and there’s only a total of five races (off the top of my head) that’re icebrood-ified (norn, quaggan, kodan, wolves, and trolls). If you think about it logically, there should be icebrood/branded wurms and grawl, branded harpies, and icebrood jotun as well as others. This is likely due to these minions not being a prominent focus of the storyline yet, and we’ll likely see many more – especially icebrood grawl and jotun since there are some of both which flock to Jormag – when they do become the prominence.

Why are there risen chickens then :|

Florgknight.1589:

Why are there risen chickens then :|

Because chickens explode when killed, obviously. It is strictly a avian trait though, so bunnies are still ruled out.

Also, on the topic of Icebrood Jotun: aren’t they an available path in Arah exploration mode? Which implies that they faced the tempting and luring powers of corruption before. Perhaps they’ve collectively learned their lesson and are not as likely to give in as the “younger” races?

Florgknight.1589:

Why are there risen chickens then :|

Because chicken were native to Orr. Rabbits might not have been.

You never see risen-made Risen Chickens outside of Orr (the only Risen Chicken you see outside of Orr is during the charr storyline, one of the lvl 20-30 ones, with “Mister Cluckers” who eats a Zhaitan-magic-infected amulet that turns wearers into Risen).

Oglaf.1074:

Also, on the topic of Icebrood Jotun: aren’t they an available path in Arah exploration mode? Which implies that they faced the tempting and luring powers of corruption before. Perhaps they’ve collectively learned their lesson and are not as likely to give in as the “younger” races?

You haven’t done all the norn storylines, have you?

Defeat Our Ancient Foes (formerly called Strength) in the bio leads to a storyline about how a jotun tribe leader is seeking to become a giant-king, having been promised power if he worships Jormag by the Sons of Svanir.

Plus, they’ve forgotten a lot of their past knowledge, so I don’t see how them having, as a race, encountered the ED matters much.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Defeat Our Ancient Foes (formerly called Strength) in the bio leads to a storyline about how a jotun tribe leader is seeking to become a giant-king, having been promised power if he worships Jormag by the Sons of Svanir.

No I remember them quite well.

1) That was a long long time ago. Possibly the first time the Jotun encountered Jormag
2) The Jotun apparently learned from that. Well, some of them did. Also, the ones who got corrupted all killed each other eventually.

What do you mean by point 1? It was the beginning of the storyline so it wasn’t *that" long ago (the entire storyline seems to take less than a year), and the jotun definitely encountered the ED (and likely Jormag) during the first rise – and doubtful that was their first encounter of Jormag during this rise, seeing how there are jotun in the Far Shiverpeaks just like there were norn there.

Regarding point 2 – maybe that tribe, but the jotun are not a united race. And in fact, they’re a fairly competitive race – with both outsiders and each other. Just because one tribe went to Jormag doesn’t mean other won’t, but on the same note just because one tribe left Jormag doesn’t mean all others learned not to go to it. And the one tribe that did learn their lesson – if they did – only learned so much as the PC is a threat to them only if they side with Jormag. Once the PC leaves town, who knows what they were up to.

And I don’t recall anything saying that the corrupted jotun killed each other, or were killed off – let alone anything that says new corrupted jotun can’t appear.

That story is told through a flashback. Said flashback tells of how the various Jotun Kings eventually killed each other off in massive battles, which supposedly led to the fall of the Jotun and the rise of the lesser races.

Arah Exploration mode speaks of the Jotun fighting the Elder Dragons a long, long time ago.

These two don’t seem connected to you?

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The jotun civil war has NOTHING to do with their reverence of jotun. That’s jotun history. The jotun chieftain that claims himself to be a giant-king was MODERN DAY in GW2. There is only one flashback in the storyline which is telling about the fall of jotun society – which is only told to the PC so the PC knows why the jotun are so eager to get power and thus go to Jormag.

The jotun society are thousands of years old (if not tens of thousands). They fell sometime after the last ED rise – they, like the seers, dwarves, mursaat, and forgotten, were around during the last ED rise. But they didn’t turn to worshiping Jormag until very recently – until the norn personal storyline. E.g., this year of GW2 (1325 AE). The Arah explorable mode is about jotun and the other races’ history; that one flashback is about jotun history; Thruln the Lost’s dialogue is about jotun history. The rest of that storyline is about modern jotun.

In other words: The flashback has nothing directly to do with Jormag and their fall was not connected to reverence to Jormag. Their fall was caused by their own greed and power where their giant-kings fought each other into extinction, leaving only primitive people who has long forgotten their past beyond that they were once a grand race and where their ancestor’s citadels lay. Their worship of Jormag is a recent development that the jotun are doing to return to their past glory – e.g., return to the power they had before they fell.