Guild Wars 2

I posted this in mapchat yesterday and … then really started to dwell on it.
Zhaitan, Elder Dragon, we know the extent of his power. There are places in Tyria his influence couldn’t reach. NORTH-Nothern Shiverpeaks, for instance. In the 3 years I have been playing I never seen a zombie in Frostgorge. Fore Fireheart Rise.

Mordremoth, okay! Yeah, this Dragon’s reach is… obviously more wide-spread than his companion, Zhaitan, yet, we have not seen one key thing in all these months. No hint, no clue-in to what his weaknesses are.

Now, yesterday, someone said arrogantly: “It’s fire, duhhh… he’s a PLANT.”
To me, we’re talking magical dragons and with that having been said, the element of Fire is relative in my mind.

Others tossed that this is information learned in HoT when it launches, but something has occurred to me. We don’t see his reach in the high parts of the Northern Shiverpeaks and… anyone who owns plants, we know winter is not the season for planting… and I thought – Ice. Plants thrive in the warmth, Cold is their undoing (Unless it’s a holly bush) uh… what do you think?

All these dragons, powerful in their stature, but power… is not an infinite reason, the Asura have proven this. So if they consume magic, their use of it is not infinite, doesn’t get recycled to continuously keep going, like an drinking glass, to exhaust at some point, they have to have weaknesses… don’t they?

I’m fairly sure it was established that Modremoth is using the leylines to expand is reach. Also unlike Zhaitan who’s minions have to march outward Modremoth can send his tendrils under ground.

As for weaknesses I REALLY doubt mere cold or fire would daunt Modremoth. Fire especially because anyone who says they can kill a living plant with fire has never tried to start a campfire with green plant matter before. That stuff is mostly water, it won’t burn well.

Elder Dragons seem to need specific weapons to harm them. Glint fashioned a spear from Kraalkatorrik’s blood with the intent of using his own body to defeat him. Zhaitan needed a special laser weapon and special ammunition specifically designed for him to put him down. And in the case of Zhaitan he had to be starved out first by destroying the Mouths of Zhaitan so he couldn’t keep replenishing his magical energy. Jormag lost a tooth to a norn warrior empowered by the spirits… Don’t really know how that worked.

We’ve not devised an anti-Modremoth weapon yet as far as I know, and given Modremoth seems to be consuming magic directly from the leylines we might not be able to starve him as easily like we did with Zhaitan.

Ehecatl.9172:

As for weaknesses I REALLY doubt mere cold or fire would daunt Modremoth. Fire especially because anyone who says they can kill a living plant with fire has never tried to start a campfire with green plant matter before. .

lmao, Oh sweetie, I had many years of camping and my brother-in-law showed up the best way to light a campfire? Bacon Grease. (I had to toss a pair of perfectly good PJs because of that one.)

Hell, even some woods refuse to ignite a campfire so yeah I could imagine how using some forms of plant life could be a royal pain.

But hey on that note, could it be feasible that we might use ley lines to kill him? Since he’s obviously using them against us?

To me, Ley Line Magic? That’s not a one-way street?

Jaymee.1560:

In the 3 years I have been playing I never seen a zombie in Frostgorge. Fore Fireheart Rise.

Uhhhhhhh….

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Fixing_the_Blame

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Destroy_the_undead_mesmer_illusions

Easy to miss, if you don’t choose one out of 10 story paths – which were taken out of the game for about a year.

Jaymee.1560:

Now, yesterday, someone said arrogantly: “It’s fire, duhhh… he’s a PLANT.”
To me, we’re talking magical dragons and with that having been said, the element of Fire is relative in my mind.

Honestly, I don’t get why people think such.

Fire plant says hello

Fire plant two point oh says hello

Jaymee.1560:

Others tossed that this is information learned in HoT when it launches, but something has occurred to me. We don’t see his reach in the high parts of the Northern Shiverpeaks and… anyone who owns plants, we know winter is not the season for planting… and I thought – Ice. Plants thrive in the warmth, Cold is their undoing (Unless it’s a holly bush) uh… what do you think?

This is something I’ve thought as well and think it might have some merit to it. However, it could be a mere case of being mountains and rock – harder to dig through, so no show of presence yet. The main counter point is the mordrem we saw at Fort Concordia – a warmer but still mountainous location.

Zhaitan’s main weakness in the end, how we beat him, was by poisoning the magic he consumed and held. Basically we used the method of dragon corruption against him, turning his tainted magic into yet-again-tainted magic.

Ehecatl.9172:

Glint fashioned a spear from Kraalkatorrik’s blood with the intent of using his own body to defeat him.

Spine*

The blood she collected, but it was Snaff who found a method to weaponize it. The spear was made out of one of Kralkatorrik’s spines/spikes thingies. The blood was utilized as excessively powerful power crystals to help Snaff delve into Kralk’s mind and control his body.

Ehecatl.9172:

Jormag lost a tooth to a norn warrior empowered by the spirits… Don’t really know how that worked.

NPC theory brings up a jotun scroll that Aesgir might has used.

Jaymee.1560:

But hey on that note, could it be feasible that we might use ley lines to kill him? Since he’s obviously using them against us?

To me, Ley Line Magic? That’s not a one-way street?

That would be foolish, really, as the method to do that would be the same as Zhaitan – poisoning the magic.

But if you poison the ley line magic, you poison ALL magic in the world. It’d be a one-stop shop to kill everything in the world. Might not be immediate, might take centuries to really show its effects, but it’d be little different than exploding a nuclear missile in proper wind currents to spread the radiation across a huge field.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

But if you poison the ley line magic, you poison ALL magic in the world. It’d be a one-stop shop to kill everything in the world. Might not be immediate, might take centuries to really show its effects, but it’d be little different than exploding a nuclear missile in proper wind currents to spread the radiation across a huge field.

(Gawd, I love fiction. Within the realm of fiction you can get away with just about anything.)

Great response btw, I loved it!

In the idea of poisoning ley line magic and that would not only be Mordremoth’s undoing, but Tyria’s undoing ultimately – who’s to say that there can’t be a method to tampering with Ley Line energy in such a way that prove lethal to dragons but other species remain immune to it’s lethal effects?

Even if it’s possible, it’s ignoring the fact that some pretty heavy hints were dropped in S2 that killing all of the Elder Dragons is going to be a pretty bad thing. Like, end of the world bad. We’re still not exactly sure what will happen, but the current consensus is that rising magic levels, if left unchecked, will either enable an immense catastrophe or kick one off on their own.

The dragons are not allies, so every one of them has its own area