Elder Dragons: common knowledge?

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Posted by: Luna Silvae.9208

Luna Silvae.9208

Ok so here’s my question about the Elder Dragons: how much is known about them during the timeline of GW1? I’ve tried researching this but could never find a clear and concise answer, and I haven’t beaten Eye of the North so if the answer is there then I wouldn’t know. Obviously I know Primordius had a big role in that but, since I didn’t finish it, wasn’t sure if that was known by the Tyrians at the end of it or wasn’t figured out until later.

Did people know of, or at least suspect their existence back then? I know it’s stated in GW2 that Dragons are mentioned in old dwarven texts, but was that information only found out recently? Maybe we are suppose to assume it was common knowledge during the earlier games, but the creators wanted to leave it vague on purpose cause they weren’t sure what direction the games would go in? I don’t know…

Basically, how much was known about the Dragons back then- was everything that is known about them only brought to light recently? Sorry for the very long-winded question! XD

Rhea Elessedil, Sylvari Elementalist/Fae Darkmoon, Human Necromancer
~Dragonbrand~

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

Aaron Ansari.1604

There’s contradictory information on that. EotN made the Great Destroyer out to be the ultimate evil, so at that point we didn’t know there was an Elder Dragon waiting in the wings. The Movement of the World (early pre-release lore primer) said, to paraphrase, that no one would have believed in Elder Dragons until some time after they started waking up. Vekk and Gadd’s books in the Hidden Arcana instance, however, both show not just awareness of the dragons, but quite a bit of understanding of their nature which was supposedly cutting edge in 1325… and Gadd died in EotN, 1078.

R.I.P., Old Man of Auld Red Wharf. Gone but never forgotten.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

During GW1?

Nothing. Except to exemplimary individuals like Glint and the Forgotten, Seers, Mursaat. But they didn’t share any information about this.

The commoner in GW1 knew nothing about the Elder Dragons’ existence. And even when people saw the hibernating beasts, so much time had passed that they were covered with rock and dirt and even vegetation that they did not even come to suspect their true nature. The asura thought Primordus to be a mere statue that leaked magic. The charr thought Kralkatorrik to be an odd mountain that had scales (which we see is common place in the Realm of Torment so given that such can exist in the GWverse, it’s not such a stupid thought as we may think).

Even we players didn’t know what that giant scaley island-mountain, the beast frozen beneath the ice lake, or the giant ‘statue’ in the chamber of the Great Destroyer were during GW1 – we found out with The Movement of the World’s release shortly after Eye of the North’s release.

Common knowledge of the Elder Dragons only truly surfaced with Jormag’s rise and the norn being forced south – and even then, as we are told in the novel Sea of Sorrows, people often thought Jormag to be the one and only Elder Dragon – knowledge of Primordus didn’t become common until after Zhaitan’s rise, due to its isolation. Basically, Zhaitan’s rise was the catalyst for the knowledge of many Elder Dragons (and even that took a few decades) for the common man.

The Order of Whispers supposedly knew before then, but again, in GW1 just about no one but the survivors of the previous dragonrise knew of the Elder Dragons’ existence. And for some reason, they didn’t feel like telling.

Edit: For clarification, I am taking Vekk’s Thesis and The Six: Being or Playing God to be simple continuity oversights and thus not canon (either by those writers, or the mention of draconic energy consumption – particularly for the latter; Vekk could have arguably found out and wrote this post-EotN) as I see these, and a few other books, simply being added as Anet’s attempt to satiate the fan’s outcry for more GW1 connections (and the community fell right into Anet’s lap with that simple trick) – heck, they may even be fixed when the mention of Riannoc still being alive post-Secondborn death is/was fixed.

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.

(edited by Konig Des Todes.2086)

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Posted by: Luna Silvae.9208

Luna Silvae.9208

Thanks for the input, guys!

Rhea Elessedil, Sylvari Elementalist/Fae Darkmoon, Human Necromancer
~Dragonbrand~