Fan theory: Rox and Rytlock
Seems way too much like a cheap soap opera twist to me.
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Very unlikely. As you mentioned, it would break lore and only a beginner writer would come up with something like that. And A.net’s writers are too professional to come up with such a fanfic-tier material. This is very silly! Rytlock would never be such a ruseman!
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Very unlikely. As you mentioned, it would break lore and only a beginner writer would come up with something like that. And A.net’s writers are too professional to come up with such a fanfic-tier material. This is very silly! Rytlock would never be such a ruseman!
Eh, I’m not sure. I’ve just been looking over all of Rox’s dialogue as recorded on the wiki, and there’s a few occasions where she seems to be making some assessments of Rytlock’s personality that don’t seem to match up with generic authoritarian discussion.
On the other hand, her discussions during the F&F arc seem to be nothing out of the ordinary, so either she could have been putting on a façade due to the disadvantaged social situation she was in at the time, or I’m just trying to cherry pick for an idea that legitimately doesn’t fit in with the established story. Still, I’m not ruling it out yet.
I think you’re on the right track, more towards the end. For what purpose would they be? I don’t think many people’s thoughts will be different from yours, unless they’re indifferent about it.
For what purpose would they be?
As mentioned, a motive that matches Rox’s behaviour. Think of this on dramatic terms. It’s a pretty standard twist, nothing particularly challenging or “out there”.
Rox doesn’t come across as self-assured. Given her past, that’s plenty of reason to assume she doesn’t have enough motivation for this very specific thing, based on her character at face value. This is a gladium in the legions we’re talking about here.
Anyway, I’ve already admitted that this would easily be clichéd middle school level writing. Dramatically it could work if the reveal was introduced with a flurry of some very complex social/familial politicking, but that’d take some Rushdie level writing skills to pull off, which probably wouldn’t fit into an MMO like this to begin with. Still, food for thought.
Yeah I think it is a bad plot. Whatever warbands are about, they are not about sending soldiers out on solo missions to qualify for elite units. Even though the storyline is eventually going to show Rox realizing that this new adventuring team means more to her than a strange warband, she should already see that she’s not integrating into any warband this way.
Anyway, I’ve already admitted that this would easily be clichéd middle school level writing. Dramatically it could work if the reveal was introduced with a flurry of some very complex social/familial politicking, but that’d take some Rushdie level writing skills to pull off, which probably wouldn’t fit into an MMO like this to begin with. Still, food for thought.
I dunno, you really were giving the ArenaNet writing team not enough credit (though by now you recanted your strange theory) Those are learned professionals, not some fanfic writers scratched together from the internets.
What do we really know about the Stone Warband? Even Rytlock seems to distance himself from it in the novel. Is it possible that its a Warband for gladium? Have we met anyone else that is even in that Warband?
some men aren’t looking for anything logical…
some men just want to watch the world burn.
some men just want to watch the world burn.
With all due respect, OP the lead writer has been writing for just about 20 years going by her own words. There is no way she would come out with something so very trite and amateurish.
However, I do see your logic with regards to those sources you can’t cite (Rox being utterly subservient to Rytlock for perhaps the flimsiest of reasons). I just figured that this was in a similar vein to how everyone worships Trahearne in the personal story.
TLDR: Anet would never do something this bad.
Edit: They only went and did something that bad. Hats off to you OP. Naughty corner for Anet writing team.
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OP, are you smoking something? How would Rox even find that out to drive her to this dedication in the first place? You said it yourself, she was in a Miner band, how could she possibly come across this information? She just magically has it? I don’t think that the same team responsible for the amazing living story we’d had thus far would off-screen something that important. Please, stop.
What do we really know about the Stone Warband? Even Rytlock seems to distance himself from it in the novel. Is it possible that its a Warband for gladium? Have we met anyone else that is even in that Warband?
At the moment, only what Logan told us last release: they’re all officers in the Legions, and don’t do much as a unit anymore.
Which, frankly, just makes Rytlock’s incessant hazing all the more ridiculous.
R.I.P., Old Man of Auld Red Wharf. Gone but never forgotten.
I read your theory, and the only way it could possibly be worse would be if they made Rox do the cliché “I learned that friends are more important” thing and form a little adventuring group à la Destiny’s Edge and then named it Destiny’s Child or something like that.
Nothing personal, it just sounds too fanfic-like and would not fly well in a high-quality professional environment.
Actually, I kind of like it. We’ve seen a number of Charr who, while not making it their top priority, are still aware of family ties. She does seem to be reaching awfully high if she just wants to lose the stigma of being a gladium…
“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.
Actually, I kind of like it. We’ve seen a number of Charr who, while not making it their top priority, are still aware of family ties. She does seem to be reaching awfully high if she just wants to lose the stigma of being a gladium…
Yeah, I don’t really see what’s lore-breaking about it. I mean, the charr personal story deals with your character’s relationship with his/her father and how it affects your own standing among the charr.
Not sure why everyone in this thread jumped onboard with calling it “fanfic.” Seems pretty weird.
What do we really know about the Stone Warband? Even Rytlock seems to distance himself from it in the novel. Is it possible that its a Warband for gladium? Have we met anyone else that is even in that Warband?
At the moment, only what Logan told us last release: they’re all officers in the Legions, and don’t do much as a unit anymore.
Which, frankly, just makes Rytlock’s incessant hazing all the more ridiculous.
I just thought that was weak writing trying to force the conclusion that Rox decides not to join Rytlock’s warband, she instead chooses Braham and the team. They wrote Rytlock’s warband as clearly unappealing so that Rox makes the decision they want her to make (just like so much of the rest of the Living Story has people and factions holding the idiot ball, acting out of character or doing whatever it is they need to do to accommodate the direction Scarlet of the new cast are supposed to move in).
Why do people think Rox’s behaviour to be so unusual? That’s the military chain of command, not some weird fan girl. In addition to that, Rytlock is one of the most notable charr in Tyria. Working on his team would be very prestigious, I don’t view trials to get onto his team as unbelievable. I do think it’s stupid Rox was sent to fight Tequatl or Scarlet as a test, how the kitten was she supposed to do either of those things on her own? With the help of others, how is she supposed to demonstrate she did anything of worth?
I dunno, after the scene at the beach in Lion’s Arch I had the impression that Rytlock doesn’t even want her in the Warband and gives her pretty much impossible tasks to get rid of her. Only that it doesn’t work and she actually succeeds.
Even though she said she solo’d Tequatl. Are Anet not learning with this ’NPC’s taking the credit thing’?
I dunno, after the scene at the beach in Lion’s Arch I had the impression that Rytlock doesn’t even want her in the Warband and gives her pretty much impossible tasks to get rid of her. Only that it doesn’t work and she actually succeeds.
That’s the impression I got when he sent her to solo Tequatl.
Given what we do know about Rytlock I think it’s quite possible he gets a kick out of her blind admiration of him, hence the absurd tasks that most would call him out on, but she follows out anyways.
It is also possible that he’s sending her on these insane quests due to his accomplishments in Destiny’s Edge. I mean if you want to join up with someone who’s killed several dragon champions they’ll probably want you to prove you can keep up in such situations, especially when that someone is Rytlock Brimstone.
Really it’s hard to gauge what exactly Rytlock’s opinion of Rox is given how little we see them interact.
I got the distinct impression Rytlock was trying to get her to give up. Why is a different question. There is actually quite a bit about the Stone Warband we don’t really know.
Note that when Rytlock first met Logan he was posted almost on the opposite side of Ascalon to his Warband by his own choosing. We never find out though why Rytlock wanted to be so far away from his Warband but I smell potential internal issues there. Rox, if she gets in, my find things aren’t quite as rosy after all being in the Stone Warband, ignoring the fact that all of them sound like they outrank her considerably.
I bet they’re bro and sister
Haha they deleted the leaked comment, they are half brother and sister.
AmateurNet
Haha they deleted the leaked comment, they are half brother and sister.
Given the lack of family cohesion in Charr society I’m sure it’s not uncommon for a Charr to have multiple mates and thus multiple kittens (and I mean kittens as in baby cats not as in filtered swear word :P). We know that parent-child relationships have some importance (as seen in the Charr personal story) even though parents usually don’t raise their own children (except probably being the Charr in Lions Arch but they’re probably not officially part of the legions), but I don’t think we’ve really explored what the Charr’s view on sibling relationships are or what importance or meaning they place on such relationships. It might be possible that sibling relationships have little meaning or value to Charr and thus Rox and Rytlock not opening acknowledging such a relationship would be perfectly normal in Charr society.
It might be possible that sibling relationships have little meaning or value to Charr and thus Rox and Rytlock not opening acknowledging such a relationship would be perfectly normal in Charr society.
That makes a lot of sense, especially if the age gap between siblings (or half-siblings) is large enough that the two never really get a chance to interact together in the fahrar.
I thought charr looked at their “warband” as family and gave little importance to biological family.
However, this theory could be interesting if they are trying to give all of the current group some kind of relationship to DE
Braham – Son of Eir
Rox – daughter of Rytlock
Taimi – orphan child raised by Zojja
Scruffy – Mr. Sparkles 2.0?
Unknown sylvari – regular sylvari connection with Caithe, perhaps something closer through the dream.
We might find that Kas have some kind of connection to Logan that we don’t know of. Perhaps Kas is a daughter of Logan/Jenna that was pushed off on some other nobleman who was subsequently destroyed to hide her connection to Jenna. Kasameer is a pretty rocking Mesmer (she illusions her own clothes and all – Jenna is a very powerful Mesmer too)
How our character and Jory fit into the picture isn’t quite clear.
I bet they’re bro and sister
^^ It is totally going to be this.
Very luke & leia.
Except I’m guessing that they won’t share both parents .
On another note I’ll bet that Rox does something to impress Rytlock enough that he offers her a place in his warband only for her to turn in down saying something like ‘Turns out I had my own warband all along’ while looking at Braham, Jory, Kasmeer, Taimi and most likey Canach. Very much like the wizard of oz and tin mans heart or the scarecrows brain. Or that someone has to look out for the aformentioned characters. Rytlock will understand and say that it is a standing offer.
On another note I’ll bet that Rox does something to impress Rytlock enough that he offers her a place in his warband only for her to turn in down saying something like ‘Turns out I had my own warband all along’ while looking at Braham, Jory, Kasmeer, Taimi and most likey Canach. Very much like the wizard of oz and tin mans heart or the scarecrows brain. Or that someone has to look out for the aformentioned characters. Rytlock will understand and say that it is a standing offer.
Or perhaps she will learn she’s been a member of the warband all this time. Rytlock is a member of the Warband as well as a member of Destiny’s Edge. Perhaps that is the Stone Warband’s task, to form interracial “warbands” which they can call upon to act as liaisons between the Charr High Legions and the other races. He has been given her assignments that seem to be of high important to the Charr race as a whole, such as representing them at the Queen’s Jubilee or bringing him the tail of the Sunless. He also doesn’t seem to care about the fact she brought Braham along to the Queen’s Jubilee, even though she was representing the Black Citadel in his stead. Perhaps it was his idea for her to join the Stone Warband, by simply mentioning an opening to her and how the warband was looking for someone with qualities she possesses. Rytlock does seem the type of commander to indirectly put her on a path he feels will utilize her full potential.
I’m the Asura Elementalist that stole all your cookies, well except the oatmeal ones.
Chaos always finds a way, who you think Evil learned it from?
Chaos always finds a way, who you think Evil learned it from?
On another note I’ll bet that Rox does something to impress Rytlock enough that he offers her a place in his warband only for her to turn in down saying something like ‘Turns out I had my own warband all along’ while looking at Braham, Jory, Kasmeer, Taimi and most likey Canach. Very much like the wizard of oz and tin mans heart or the scarecrows brain. Or that someone has to look out for the aformentioned characters. Rytlock will understand and say that it is a standing offer.
On the one hand: awe how heart warming. On the other hand: kinda predictable and cliché. I’m not sure how to feel about it.