Guild Wars 2

I was wondering if their is anymore story line that is going to be coming about this ?awesome magical power that this race had. I’m very curious about their story line as their is a mention also that they were rivals of the Gods themselves until the Gods took their magic. I’d also like to know if their is a connection between the Norn and the Giants? I would also like to see more combat with Giants for that Slayer title Giant Killer.

You seem to be mixing up the giants and jotun. They are not the same.

Also, Thrulnn doesn’t speak the truth. It was not the Six Gods who took the jotun’s magic, nor were they rivals (nor does anything ever put the gods as rivals to any giant group).

Jotun aren’t giants either – though they are big.

I would like to know more about the giants. There are very few of them scattered around the world, despite them having their own “X Killer” category. Why are there so few of them? Where are they? Do they tend to be more aggressive, or like that one giant, kinder?

I also wouldn’t mind hearing more about the jotun as well. They aren’t nearly as sparse, but why does them giving up magic altogether make them so aggressive to outsiders? I think only that one group in Wayfarer Foothills as part of a heart quest is even the least bit friendly to other races. Maybe as we go to fight Jormag, they’ll be more inclined to aid us.

Rognik.2579:

I would like to know more about X

That could be the motto of this sub-forum. Replace X with anything you like, except ley-lines, because that’s the only lore we are getting these days. (INB4 yes I am exaggerating.)

If you mean the Jotun, there was some new lore in Ember Bay:

“VIII. As the dragons returned to their cyclic slumber, the elder races reemerged. The once-powerful jotun refused to rely on magic ever again. They have since remained ignorant, brutish creatures.”

Rognik.2579:

I also wouldn’t mind hearing more about the jotun as well. They aren’t nearly as sparse, but why does them giving up magic altogether make them so aggressive to outsiders? I think only that one group in Wayfarer Foothills as part of a heart quest is even the least bit friendly to other races. Maybe as we go to fight Jormag, they’ll be more inclined to aid us.

We actually have a good chunk on jotun" (although I would kill for some more giant info). For your question- they came to believe their bloodlines were the next best thing to divine, which led to them attempting to wipe out any jotun not related to them. Centuries of that kind of warfare normalized instinctive violence as a way of life, and now that’s just what jotun do.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

You seem to be mixing up the giants and jotun. They are not the same.

Also, Thrulnn doesn’t speak the truth. It was not the Six Gods who took the jotun’s magic, nor were they rivals (nor does anything ever put the gods as rivals to any giant group).

Jotun aren’t giants either – though they are big.

Giants are kinda like dragons. We never got a proper definition of either. Well I guess that’s not exactly true, I guess it’s more like a spectrum, we can all agree that https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Champion_Giant and https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Great_Giant are giants but where is the cut off height?

In this setting, “giants” is a species, not a descriptor or superspecies. The “Great Giants” or more commonly called Giganticus Lupicus are nothing akin to the giants, which are basically very very big cyclopian humans.

Though this wasn’t so in GW1, but those giants (especially sand giants) are more akin to jotun and ogres.

ahem…. https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Jotun

Joten are a lesser species of Giant.

macon.4065:

ahem…. https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Jotun

Joten are a lesser species of Giant.

The word Joten does mean giant

perilisk.1874:

If you mean the Jotun, there was some new lore in Ember Bay:

“VIII. As the dragons returned to their cyclic slumber, the elder races reemerged. The once-powerful jotun refused to rely on magic ever again. They have since remained ignorant, brutish creatures.”

Keep in mind that was written from the perspective of the mursaat, who only returned to Tyria after the fall of jotun civilisation. They apparently interpreted the loss of magic as a refusal to rely on magic, when the truth is that the jotun killed off their spellcasters while fighting one another and they lost magic because there was no jotun left who could teach it to others. (Ironically, Ascalon and Kryta were trying to do the same thing to one another during the Guild Wars by attacking academies.)

macon.4065:

ahem…. https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Jotun

Joten are a lesser species of Giant.

You have to be careful citing the wikis as sources – they often say things that aren’t backed up by official sources in or out of game. If something is in one of the wikis and it doesn’t have a citation to back it up, it’s not a suitable citation.

In this case, it’s actually demonstrated in-game that jotun have the Ogre type – they’re susceptible to Ogre-slaying weapons.

That said, there are some questions raised even then. For instance, the Guild Wars 2 giants are very different to Guild Wars 1 giants. GW1 jotun were only found in the Far Shiverpeaks and had magic-users: GW2 jotun have lacked magic-users for generations and inhabit their ruins that have supposedly been there since before the fall of their civilisation, despite there being no jotun in those regions in GW1.

Because of this, I’m sometimes inclined to think that the Tundra Giants of GW1 were actually jotun all along, and the Far Shiverpeaks jotun were a branch that had managed to not fall quite as far.

Broadly speaking, ‘giant’ seems to have a generic meaning and a specific meaning. The generic meaning is anything fairly humanoid that is bigger than a human: which can include norn, ogres, jotun, ettins, and so on. The other is the giant species, which refers specifically to the one-eyed champions.