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I know glint belongs to kralkatorrik, but glint is a dragon made of ice. Which brings up my question, Isn’t kralkatorrik’s minions suppose to be electric? If you look at shatterer he fits the plot. This could mean two things. Either i’m wrong or glint originally belonged to Jormag and kralkatorrik made some kind of deal with glint. The reason i say Jormag instead of other dragons is because Jormag is ice and The reason i think that all his minions (lieutenant or what ever) should be electric is because if you compare him to zhaitan, all of zhaitan minions even lieutenants are zombies

Main problem with this theory is: Glint was made of crystals, not ice afaik. If it is state different in books then… Well I haven’t read 2nd and 3rd.

Glint is made of crystals, not Ice and her attacks include crystal-themed attacks.

Glint was originally known as Gaust, who existed completely independent from the Elder Dragons, until Kralkatorrik corrupted her, that’s the point where she got the crystal-form and her new name.

Then the forgotten managed to once again free Glint in mind, but could not save her body.

I thought Gaust was her name when she was a champion of Kralkatorrik. Where do we learn that Kralkatorrik corrupted her and that changed her name? I thought the Arah path only showed us how she was cleansed of her corruption.

What others said: Glint is crystal, not ice, and all of Kralkatorrik branded minions show crystal corruption (all show crystal, only a few like the Shatterer show electricity and that’s probably more a manifestation of powerful energy) so there isn’t a connection to Jormag here.

Gandarel.5091:

Glint was originally known as Gaust, who existed completely independent from the Elder Dragons, until Kralkatorrik corrupted her, that’s the point where she got the crystal-form and her new name.

Then the forgotten managed to once again free Glint in mind, but could not save her body.

Hm?
Where does this information come from?
As far as I know there is NO information at all about Glint’s life before being a champion of Kralk.

I’m curious about where this pre-champion Glint info is coming from as well.

Black Dragon.3784:

I know glint belongs to kralkatorrik, but glint is a dragon made of ice. Which brings up my question, Isn’t kralkatorrik’s minions suppose to be electric?

Glint is made of crystal as others have said.

Kralkaotrrik’s minions are to be made of crystal, not electric. Kralkatorrik is the Elder Crystal Dragon. They just have a heavy electric “sub-theme” but electricity is actually a minor aspect of Jormag and Zhaitan as well – in places of heavy Elder Dragon corruption, you can see electricity shooting between said corruption. Best seen in Arah, Snowblind Fractal (at the shaman fight), and in Drakkar Spurs. Branded also have a heavy reliance on earth and fire magic though, so Kralkatorrik’s minions are overall purplized elementalists, but they’re all turned into crystal. Exception being The Shatterer who’s just blackened rock (I suppose that could count as crystal) and purple aether – though his attacks are certainly crystal.

Gandarel.5091:

Glint was originally known as Gaust, who existed completely independent from the Elder Dragons, until Kralkatorrik corrupted her, that’s the point where she got the crystal-form and her new name.

Lutinz.6915:

I thought Gaust was her name when she was a champion of Kralkatorrik. Where do we learn that Kralkatorrik corrupted her and that changed her name?

We never actually learn when Glaust’s (not Gaust) name was turned to Glint.

I always took it to be her new name after being freed of Kralkatorrik’s will. But all we’re said is that her original name was Glaust.

Do we have any evidence that there ever was a “before” Glint was a champion of Kralkatorrik?

Sirius.4510:

Do we have any evidence that there ever was a “before” Glint was a champion of Kralkatorrik?

It’s heavily suggested in the wording.
From Arah Forgotten path:
“Warden Illyra: Yes. Yes! Look at these runes. The Forgotten were able to remove Kralkatorrik’s control over Glint.
Warden Illyra: Glint remained in crystalline form, but she regained her free will and identity.”
To regain something you have to have had it in the first place so that would suggest she was corrupted rather than created by Kralk. The fact that she “remained” in crystalline form also suggests that she had a previous form before Kralk corrupted her.
The Zephyrites also refer to Glint as being older than the Gods (although not sure how much I believe them)

FlamingFoxx.1305:

Sirius.4510:

Do we have any evidence that there ever was a “before” Glint was a champion of Kralkatorrik?

It’s heavily suggested in the wording.
From Arah Forgotten path:
“Warden Illyra: Yes. Yes! Look at these runes. The Forgotten were able to remove Kralkatorrik’s control over Glint.
Warden Illyra: Glint remained in crystalline form, but she regained her free will and identity.”
To regain something you have to have had it in the first place so that would suggest she was corrupted rather than created by Kralk. The fact that she “remained” in crystalline form also suggests that she had a previous form before Kralk corrupted her.
The Zephyrites also refer to Glint as being older than the Gods (although not sure how much I believe them)

Thats kind of a long shot. You could easily be reading more into what they say than they are actually saying. Certianly, Glint’s pre champion status doesn’t seem to be well known knowledge if it was true and the way your taking their words would suggest that they think it is.

As for Glint being older than the Gods, all that requires is for Glint to have been around during the last Cycle. The previous ED cycle predates the gods by a good 8000 years doesnt it? That would mean Glint was at least 10000 years old. At the very least we can safely say she was older than Grenth.

It’s not really a long shot O_o. re is a prefix, to regain something you have to have had it in the first place – definite fact. If they had meant it to be read that she was freed of corruption and gained free will and identity they would have said “gained” not “regained”.
Also that’s not quite true. The Age of the Gods is not the same as the year they entered Tyria from the Mists – we have no idea how old they truly are. Although Glint is almost certainly older than the Gods arrival on Tyria considering she must have been awake during the last cycle in order to have been corrupted in the first place (just assuming this is not a Nornbear situation considering how own power etc).

Sirius.4510:

Do we have any evidence that there ever was a “before” Glint was a champion of Kralkatorrik?

One thing i want to put there is we seen Kralkatorrik only corrupts to make followers not create them. Primordis is only dragon that does so i think so far with destroyers. So to that extent it is possible Kralkatorrik corrupted glint into being a fallower but their is no records of pre preelderdragons rising cause glint helped kill them all. Dwarfs and Dragons are know as the oldest race on terria, hard to have race with only 6 members and no reproduction like to put that out there.

Just something id like to put out there although no evidence.

Fafnir.5124:

Sirius.4510:

Do we have any evidence that there ever was a “before” Glint was a champion of Kralkatorrik?

One thing i want to put there is we seen Kralkatorrik only corrupts to make followers not create them. Primordis is only dragon that does so i think so far with destroyers. So to that extent it is possible Kralkatorrik corrupted glint into being a fallower but their is no records of pre preelderdragons rising cause glint helped kill them all. Dwarfs and Dragons are know as the oldest race on terria, hard to have race with only 6 members and no reproduction like to put that out there.

Just something id like to put out there although no evidence.

For Kralkatorrik, that somewhat depends on what the Shatterer is. Constructed/grown from crystal or some dragon he found to corrupt?

Fafnir.5124:

Sirius.4510:

Do we have any evidence that there ever was a “before” Glint was a champion of Kralkatorrik?

One thing i want to put there is we seen Kralkatorrik only corrupts to make followers not create them. Primordis is only dragon that does so i think so far with destroyers. So to that extent it is possible Kralkatorrik corrupted glint into being a fallower but their is no records of pre preelderdragons rising cause glint helped kill them all. Dwarfs and Dragons are know as the oldest race on terria, hard to have race with only 6 members and no reproduction like to put that out there.

Just something id like to put out there although no evidence.

Hmmm, not quite.

The Shatterer is hollow with blackened rock as an exoskeleton, whereas the branded have their insides turned into crystal with graying flesh surrounding it. They look drastically different, so I suspect that the Shatterer is made from the land itself (and air). The crystal guardian in Ghosts of Ascalon is described in a similar manner – as if the land itself came to life to combat the intruders.

Similarly, Jormag’s known for making minions out of bones and ice – the Dragonspawn is known to be a construct, and the Claw of Jormag appears to be such as well.

If the Movement of the World is still accurate about the DSD’s minions, then that too is an Elder Dragon making things out of inanimate objects (water).

As to the “oldest races” – jotun, mursaat, seer, djinn, karka, Giganticus Lupicus, and forgotten are also as old as the dwarves; roughly (by which I mean “were around during the last ED rise to our knowledge”). With the jotun having been around for multiple dragon cycles (or at least they know of multiple dragon cycles). And there’s nothing that really prevents a dragon race in the distant past from being true. In the Crystal Desert there were a lot of draconic skeletons that were once believed to be Giganticus Lupicus bones (but with Arah, disproven; unless the G-Lupe is merely a group of species). Glint could have been one of these (though a small one). Rotscale and the Bone Dragons from GW1 as well (though those could have also been remnants of Zhaitan’s dragon champions that were killed off too). I wouldn’t doubt there being a really ancient dragon race that got wiped out/corrupted over time.

lordkrall.7241:

Gandarel.5091:

Glint was originally known as Gaust, who existed completely independent from the Elder Dragons, until Kralkatorrik corrupted her, that’s the point where she got the crystal-form and her new name.

Then the forgotten managed to once again free Glint in mind, but could not save her body.

Hm?
Where does this information come from?
As far as I know there is NO information at all about Glint’s life before being a champion of Kralk.

Check the wiki’s, which are based from tales that were put ingame. There is no information about her life before it, no. All the info we have, as far as I know, is that she was named Glaust once, but people started calling her Glint. There’s very little info on Glint, though some is also reveiled in some story dungeons here and there. Also in the Destiny’s Edge book.

Direksone.3867:

Check the wiki’s, which are based from tales that were put ingame. There is no information about her life before it, no. All the info we have, as far as I know, is that she was named Glaust once, but people started calling her Glint. There’s very little info on Glint, though some is also reveiled in some story dungeons here and there. Also in the Destiny’s Edge book.

Which is exactly my point.
There is no information at all to suggest that the post I quoted was correct or based on facts.

Read what konig said or the arah dialog so you will get confirmation.

Gandarel, I was actually countering your claim. We only know Glint was once called Glaust. But never a specific “when” – so your claim that her becoming corrupted is when she was renamed is utterly unsupported. The wording, Iirc, actually implies that she was renamed when freed of the corruption, not when she was corrupted.

I know, I’m talking about the part that the forgottens managed to make her regain her self-control.

Well that’s the story that goes I guess. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgFdfuuRkRg Might be an interesting video for you to watch. Talks about Glint and the protectors of heritage, how they came to be etc. And where the story might be going.

Just an FYI, Konig is a far more reliable source of Lore than Wooden Potatoes >.>
I repeat again, yes there is no information about her life before she was corrupted, but it clearly points to her having HAD a life before being corrupted – which is the most important part.