Guild Wars 2

Hello,

As I play through Living World Season 2, I cant help but realize that the player character knows the Plant and Mind dragon’s name already. I know a thread like this was posted a year ago, and a dev did say that as the PACT commander, who specializes in fighting dragons with the PACT organization, we already have knowledge on the name. But there is no info in game to confirm we know the name of Mordremoth prior to his awakening.

Lastly, I also found out there was some info datamined a year ago, before scarlet died, she would tell you the Plant and Mind Dragon’s name. But the cutscene was changed. My question is, do we have any updated new info on how the Name Mordremoth came to be? How does the PC know it?

I believe the official story is basically: The Pact knew about it, thus the Commander knew about it. It basically happens off-screen in the current version of the LS.

the priory has a book called The Scroll of the Five True Gods that contains the names of the elder dragons, they managed to translate the name of Mordremoth and have figured out that the Deep Sea Dragon’s name starts with S

the priory told the pact, and the pact told you offscreen

Pretty much a case of “characters knew it, but the player didn’t” and wasn’t properly revealed as such to players.

As Calcifire said, Priory knew it via “The Scroll of the Five True Gods” which is the Priory’s leading information on the Elder Dragons (as of S2, suddenly; previously it was dwarven legends and ancient tomes like the Tome of Rubicon, or jotun stelae).

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Pretty much a case of “characters knew it, but the player didn’t” and wasn’t properly revealed as such to players.

As Calcifire said, Priory knew it via “The Scroll of the Five True Gods” which is the Priory’s leading information on the Elder Dragons (as of S2, suddenly; previously it was dwarven legends and ancient tomes like the Tome of Rubicon, or jotun stelae).

Hmm well hopefully ANET doesn’t mess something like that up again. Where did the “Scroll of the Five gods” come from? How does one find out the name of an elder dragon? I’ve heard plenty of Sylvari turned Mordrem utter his name during the BETA, and we all heard some of Zhaitans minions speak his name. Does one gain knowledge on the name of the Dragon they face through the dragon’s minions, who will speak its name? Or are there other methods to gaining the names?

I wonder how the Dwarves, the Jotun, and who ever wrote in the “Scroll Of The Five Gods” came to acquire the Dragon names listed. I wonder their method(s) on gaining such knowledge. Specifically Mordremoth.

Dragon minions have a form of hive mind with their dragon, so it’s no surprise they know the dragon’s name. And that would be how others learn their name – the dragons’ minions utter it constantly. This would be why the DSD’s name is largely unknown – even in-universe it is unknown, unlike Mordremoth’s name.

Then you have Glint, who was allied with the Forgotten, Dwarves, and supposedly the Six Gods too. She would no doubt have a lot of such information.

Obviously the Scroll of the Five True Gods was thought of by the writers long after the Rubicon and Stelae. But, I don’t like meta-theorizing (speculating on why writers wrote something).

My best guess, is that the Scroll of the Five True Gods was a relatively recent discovery, which may have excited scholars or began to have more promise than the other tomes. Another point, The Scroll presumably shows a different perspective of the Dragons, since the Rubicon and Stelae were from creatures of the previous Rise.

It is also good to point out that the Tome of Rubicon has been rewritten over the years and political reasons.

That made me wonder whatever happened to the tome that was the subject of Forging the Pact. We never found out its name – just that it was a dwarven tome.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Dragon minions have a form of hive mind with their dragon, so it’s no surprise they know the dragon’s name. And that would be how others learn their name – the dragons’ minions utter it constantly. This would be why the DSD’s name is largely unknown – even in-universe it is unknown, unlike Mordremoth’s name.

While I certainly agree with the general premise, I’m still curious as to how that might’ve worked out with Primordus. None of the destroyers we’ve encountered are great talkers, after all.

Plagiarised.2865:

My best guess, is that the Scroll of the Five True Gods was a relatively recent discovery, which may have excited scholars or began to have more promise than the other tomes.

Wasn’t there also a line about it being difficult and slow work translating it? Perhaps that’s another reason- three years ago, with Zhaitan, it might just not have yielded anything useful yet.