Guild Wars 2

I stopped playing GW1 before The War In Kryta patch, is there scope for the Mursaat to return? I was devastated when the Arah Mursaat path was void of them. Then they annonced Fractals with new enemies which use a skill called (Spectral) Agony and needed Infusions to survive… Still no Mursaat…

Please stop teasing us and bring back the master race!

oh the master race you mean Seer, np I got your back http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Seer

Coulter.2315:

I stopped playing GW1 before The War In Kryta patch, is there scope for the Mursaat to return? I was devastated when the Arah Mursaat path was void of them. Then they annonced Fractals with new enemies which use a skill called (Spectral) Agony and needed Infusions to survive… Still no Mursaat…

Please stop teasing us and bring back the master race!

Since we’ve seen other sources of spectral agony. I think we might get an explanation on what was their power source.

Agony from Fractals is not the same as Spectral Agony. It’s already been stated by Linsey Murdock/Hargrove (whichever last name she’s using nowadays) that it was just a naming reference due to similar mechanics.

As to Mursaat returning… to OP: Eye of the North gave the biggest chance for a return, WiK just brought in and killed 7 mursaat.

Besides, with the quality and – even worse – the rate of reveal, would you really want the mursaat to return right now? I’d enjoy a return of them, but not with how the game’s development is going. The chapters feel too rushed to completion, the content to play feels too much too fast, and the quality feels overall unpolished. Not to mention that they’re backtracking on their “wider, not deeper” stance for lore (then again, how they went about with that was to redact the depth there was with Abaddon and humanity while making shallow lore throughout everywhere else – and now they’re trying to make deeper lore with Scarlet by tying everything to her, the complete opposite of what they said they wanted to do with Abaddon post-Nightfall!).

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Agony from Fractals is not the same as Spectral Agony. It’s already been stated by Linsey Murdock/Hargrove (whichever last name she’s using nowadays) that it was just a naming reference due to similar mechanics.

As to Mursaat returning… to OP: Eye of the North gave the biggest chance for a return, WiK just brought in and killed 7 mursaat.

Besides, with the quality and – even worse – the rate of reveal, would you really want the mursaat to return right now? I’d enjoy a return of them, but not with how the game’s development is going. The chapters feel too rushed to completion, the content to play feels too much too fast, and the quality feels overall unpolished. Not to mention that they’re backtracking on their “wider, not deeper” stance for lore (then again, how they went about with that was to redact the depth there was with Abaddon and humanity while making shallow lore throughout everywhere else – and now they’re trying to make deeper lore with Scarlet by tying everything to her, the complete opposite of what they said they wanted to do with Abaddon post-Nightfall!).

I stand corrected.

As much as I’d like to see the Mursaat return, I agree with Konig. If they came back now it’d be shallow and overall disappointing. Maybe even super temporary. If they’re going to bring them back, they need to be a major plot device, preferably as a serious threat both in the lore and in-game. They weren’t exactly the easiest thing to deal with in GW1, and I would hope they’d be just as brutal in GW2.

We need them back, but not in the state they’d give them to us right now.

The Mursaat are probably around. Of course, without Ascension, you cannot see them unless they want to fight you directly. The are The Unseen, after all. They are waiting for the Elder Dragons to clear the world again so they can return.

The Unseen was an ancient and powerful demon, actually. Mursaat are the Unseen Ones.

/nitpickery

Part of me hates when threads are posted about the Mursaat. Makes me miss them even more. I do love talking about them, though.

Like, what are the origins of Spectral Agony? Is it something they’re born with the ability to inflict upon others? A spell they simply developed long ago for the purposes of war? I know Saul was given the ability to cast it, so… DERAIL.

I get excited. I need to go play some Southern Shiverpeak missions.

The return of the mursaat should be well foreshadowed with increasing activity from White Mantle cells. If they would just pop up in a month with no white mantle, political manipulation, religious zeal and powerplay, the mursaat wouldnt feel the same.

Of course its reasonable to expect them not to be the same. 250 years passed since they got near to total extinction. All i hope that the awe and mystery about them remains when they do return.

Question: Do you guys think Ascended gear has anything to do with ascension/infusion? (Infusion being the effect on your armor in GW1 that made you resist Spectral Agony)

If they do return, I can see the Mursaat not using the White Mantle. The White Mantle has proven to be loyal fanatical minions in the past, but they have also proven to be unreliable as well, by not being able to take down the Player in gw1. Not to mention, all the White Mantles activities, other than maybe the ones in the Isles of Janthir, are under constant monitoring and/or investigating by the Shining Blade.

lakdav.3694:

Question: Do you guys think Ascended gear has anything to do with ascension/infusion? (Infusion being the effect on your armor in GW1 that made you resist Spectral Agony)

I have heard it’s been stated by Linsey Murdock that the names of the system in GW2 is only a developer nod to the GW1 mechanics and hold no lore connections. As I said earlier in this thread.

I do not have the source on me though.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

lakdav.3694:

Question: Do you guys think Ascended gear has anything to do with ascension/infusion? (Infusion being the effect on your armor in GW1 that made you resist Spectral Agony)

I have heard it’s been stated by Linsey Murdock that the names of the system in GW2 is only a developer nod to the GW1 mechanics and hold no lore connections. As I said earlier in this thread.

I do not have the source on me though.

My guess is you’re referring to this article: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/linsey-murdock-unveils-new-high-end-ascended-gear/

Regarding spectral agony she only said “Original Guild Wars fans may recognize that we took a familiar approach to our new progression. The first end game mechanic we will introduce is Agony, which will be encountered in the Fractals of the Mists dungeon, and is mitigated by Infusions.”, so she did state that it’s a similar mechanic, but she didn’t state that agony and spectral agony don’t hold lore connections. She might have said such a thing somewhere else though.