Guild Wars 2

Since I am cruizing for my x-th time through the HoT story, I had a moment my bags were full, so returned to the guild hall to deposit some stuff and such, and passed our Gorseval padestal.

Now something that struck my attention was the fact that Gorseval’s head looked the same as the mask the keeper of Tarir is wearing. Now I was wondering if anyone has already found a link between the 2 of those or if that’s just a coïncidence.

http://imgur.com/twYLfLm

I don’t know if I’d consider my self a “lore master”, but I do remember reading that Vinetooths were specifically made to kill the Exalted by ripping their masks off. Maybe a connection is in there somewhere
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Exalted

“Exalted cannot be killed by normal means, and their energy cannot be corrupted by the Elder Dragons. However, they will die a “final death” should their masks be torn off, or they sacrifice themselves in an explosion of energy. To fight the Exalted, Mordremoth created the Mordrem Vinetooths to remove their masks in battle. Should an Exalted die, their mask is to be placed in the Masks of the Fallen memorial, where only those most trusted by the Exalted are allowed to enter."

Edit: Gorseval looks like a vinetooth with super powers. So thats probably where he got his mask.

I think it’s coincidence, just similar design. Gorseval has no connection to either Mordremoth or the Exalted, he is more like a proto-titan, a construct made from souls.

Ok, the whole vinetooth thing, I have found:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vinetooth
Quote: “Vinetooth are dangerous mordrem found primarily in Auric Basin. They were created by Mordremoth for the purpose of hunting down Exalted, which they accomplish by ripping their masks off in battle.”

On the other hand, for Gorseval it says something else.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Gorseval_the_Multifarious
Quote: Gorseval the Multifarious is the second boss in Spirit Vale. It is formed from the angered spirits trapped within the Spirit Woods.

And when he summons the spirits, you notice they are human, just like the exalted once were. So I assume they got their masks (and armor) during their bloodstone ritual.
Since if it was during the trials, we would have gotten one too during our trip in Tarir.

So this is what got me really wondering, since the Exalted were created by the Forgotten, but what created Gorseval? And why does his mask resemble the Luminate’s one?
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Luminate

Because during my search, the only thing I have found that mildly made sense was:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3tn3ss/wtf_is_gorseval_the_multifarious_spoiler/cx7m0pu
Quote: When you first enter the ruined building after that capture point event, you can see a few ghosts slowly walking together and merging into a Champion ghost-thing. The same thing happens after you go through the chase event. This hints at the fact that the ghosts in the are can merge with one another. When Gorseval first spawns in, you hear multiple voice yelling out at once, which furthers the idea that ghosts are merging. During the fight itself the ghost adds that spawn can be consumed by Gorseval and make it stronger, meaning that the more ghosts that merge together, the stronger they become.

Or this is the general idea of showing “stronger” or “superior” spirits in the GW universe, but that just strikes me as odd.

Squee.7829:

Edit: Gorseval looks like a vinetooth with super powers. So thats probably where he got his mask.

Hardly. They not only use different frames, for starters, but Gorseval lacks the tail, their heads are differently shaped, and most importantly:

Gorseval is created by a multitude of human corpses.

Vinetooths are directly created mordrem that were uniquely created by Mordremoth.

TraumaReaper.8610:

And when he summons the spirits, you notice they are human, just like the exalted once were. So I assume they got their masks (and armor) during their bloodstone ritual.
Since if it was during the trials, we would have gotten one too during our trip in Tarir.

We don’t go through the same trials the Exalted did. The chambers the trials we go through were opened only when the egg came. We don’t know what trials the would-be exalted went through, but A Study in Gold hints that the exalted were likely created in the Gilded Hollows:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/A_Study_in_Gold
“En route to our final destination, we sheltered in a hollow and performed the exalting rituals, but ultimately, we left there as well. One day, Tarir will no longer serve us, and you will move on.”

TraumaReaper.8610:

So this is what got me really wondering, since the Exalted were created by the Forgotten, but what created Gorseval? And why does his mask resemble the Luminate’s one?
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Luminate

There was a reddit thread a while back bringing this similarity up.

Back in October or November, there was a Guild Chat episode where they talked about Gorseval and its design and the designer who made Gorseval outright said there was no story or lore behind his head shape – it just “looked cool.”

Gorseval is a creation made by maddened spirits – no ties to the Forgotten. This is not speculation but fact. Even Glenna’s journal states this at the beginning of the third raid wing (no combat required to reach there).

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Glenna's_Field_Journal

“They were stopped in their tracks by a huge beast made of frightened, vengeful souls whom I’d later find out were shocked free from the Maguuma Bloodstone. Confused and agitated, they sought revenge.”

He’s basically a naturally occurring Titan.

TraumaReaper.8610:

Or this is the general idea of showing “stronger” or “superior” spirits in the GW universe, but that just strikes me as odd.

Not really. Titans are long known to be powerful beasts created from a number of tormented souls. In GW1, they were created by controlled means under the guidance of Dhuum’s generals (specifically The Fury), but that doesn’t mean they couldn’t form more naturally as Gorseval does.