Invincible Gear?

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Posted by: zengara.8301

zengara.8301

The first few missions for sylvari (The knight´s duel) https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_Knight%27s_Duel

Show that Occam forged a gear set for the nightmare court and Bercilak ( https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bercilak ), that can make the person invincible, unable to die…..Only thing that could destroy it was the hammer that forged it, soooo….here is my question:

Why do they not just make a whole lot of those and then use that for killing the dragons o.o?

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

“Blueprints for a magical suit of armor. The smith notes that it required unique components and was hard to make. It is truly one of a kind.”

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/A_Good_Work_Spoiled

Because it’s too costly?

And there was more than just “the only thing that could destroy it was the hammer that forged it”:

“Occam’s journal describes the green armor’s enchantments, and says that they only work if the entire suit is worn.”

So if you take off the helmet to cool off, or lose a glove… you’re just as vulnerable (if not more so – we don’t really know how good the armor is without its invincibility as Bercilak died easily) than any other person out there on the battlefield.

Basically, it’s the same argument for “why doesn’t the Pact just use the ritual that freed Glint on all dragon minions” – the ritual requires specific geological locations, is costly in resources needed to use it, and only gives free will not make the minion opposing the Elder Dragon (so if the minion doesn’t want to leave servitude, it won’t).

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.

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Posted by: zengara.8301

zengara.8301

Ehmm I will just answer step by step :P

I Dont buy into the whole “its costly” theory, since they are using a hell of a lot airships and army to withstand the dragon on its own, and if 1 person could just enter and leave without a scratch, it would be kinda easier, probably cost less.

But the idea behind the person who wears it gets weaker is a good theory, he did change from bronze to champion after being able to use hammer.

If Bercilak can keep the armor on at all times, then I am pretty sure everyone else can keep it on, in a forest full of death :P

Do not think it is the same argument at all, there is a small part of the argument you could narrow down to be the same, “get an artifact that is good, to kill dragons” but the conditions, people required, or places are far from the same.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

Put it into this perspective. Let’s say 1 airship requires 100 steel beams, 25 pounds of canvas, 300 feet of rope, and a good team to pilot it. Sans that good team, all of that can be mined or farmed and produced pretty much anywhere in Tyria.

But a magical armor of total invincibility. Let’s say this costs 20 iron ingots, special sylvari plants, and an orb of eternal power. That orb you won’t be finding laying around in a supermarket.

A fleet of airships is pure material costs. A magical suit of armor is magical costs and could require something completely unique – after all, no such suit of armor exists anywhere else in over 2,000 years of recorded history.

And Bercilak doesn’t keep the armor on at all times – it’s how we kill him, after all (presuming you assist Gairwen rather than Occam – she literally tears the helmet off his head and runs away with it so you can kill him). If it’s so easy to remove a helmet… you’re screwed.

And then there’s one fact you’re forgetting… this suit of armor is magical.

Elder Dragons consume magic.

So… yeah, that armor would be useless against an army of magic-draining-by-mere-presence dragon minions.

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.

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Posted by: Tuomir.1830

Tuomir.1830

Also, even if you can’t be hurt, it’s not like you can do much if you’re covered by a metric tonne of vines. One person can be easily overwhelmed, no matter how well armored.

Only fools and heroes charge in without a plan.

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Posted by: Riot Inducer.8964

Riot Inducer.8964

Bercilak’s armor didn’t so much render him invincible as it did automatically resurrect him, and even then the armor’s abilities were only ever shown against traditional combatants. There’s no telling if it would have been able to save him from say being crushed by a dragon champion. For that matter there’s no indication that the armor would have protected the user from dragon corruption, the last thing you’d want is to lose control of a powerful artifact like that.

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Posted by: zengara.8301

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Ohh, I saw it differently, the guy got captured by the nightmare court, so figured his possibilities already there must have been limited, since he might be in stress. There are alot of different perspectives, but if removing the….countless theories of how easy/hard it is to get armor that 1 person could finish:

The dragons eating magic is a good note, the armor would already be useless if the person gets weaker, but giving the dragon strength beforehand would be worse.