Janthir's Eye and recent events (spoilers!)

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Posted by: Sock.2785

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Previously to being used by the White Mantle in their annual event, the Test of the Chosen, the Eye was located in Janthir, a desolate-looking island north of Kryta; the inhabitants of this island were said to possess the gift of True Sight, a power the Eye itself seems to retain. It’s not clear who these islanders were.

It was the founder of the White Mantle himself, Saul D’Alessio, to retrieve the Eye and to bring it to Kryta, claiming it for his order. Following mursaat’s instructions, he learned about the Eye’s location and its potentiality, and would have subsequently made use of it to identify the Chosen, individuals with magical aptitude.

With this knowledge, something comes to mind: why didn’t the mursaat themselves carry the Eye to Kryta? Hard to tell.

We know that before being able to carry the Eye, one must cleanse himself of his sins, an act rendered possible (in GW1 times) by washing with the waters of the Fountain of Truth (we witness something similar in GW2 times in the Forsaken Thicket: in order to cleanse Matthias’s corruption, players must wash themselves with the Thicket Waters gushing from four fountains in the Temple of Salvation – the same waters can also be found in the Tunnel of Respite ). Were humans (or non-mursaat in general) somehow indispensable for this task?

The connection between Janthir’s Eye and the mursaat is obscure, but light has started to timidly shine recently, revealing something. In Ember Bay, by further investigating the mursaat’s fortress, we find a sealed entrance; the seal itself kind of resembles the Eye: a tetrahedron with an eye in the middle. Interestingly, it resembles something else too: the configuration on reborn Lazarus ‘s helm, clearly visible on the forehead region. While the mursaat’s armor could be intended as a redesign from GW1, it clearly isn’t, since we can witness multiple old mursaat armors in the Stronghold of the Faithful (whether or not those armor were scavanged by the White Mantle or forged by them, the point stands). In addition to this, the various anomalies observed throughout Tyria (even the transformation of the Mystic Forge) display three eyes exactly as if they were replicating that new armor, with the exception of a missing central eye. While I’m hesitant, if not sceptic, to say these anomalies are phased mursaat, there’s definitely a connection between them.

What are your ideas on all of this?

P.S. In case you missed it, here you can witness the seal: link.

My research has found a thread between magic and the mind. The two are linked.
— Snaff

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Posted by: griff.6034

griff.6034

Very interesting theory on the anomalies being phased Mursaat! Slowly being drawn out of the Mists by surges of raw magic, perhaps even against their will?

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Posted by: Rognik.2579

Rognik.2579

The thing is, we don’t even really know what being chosen meant. I’m pretty sure all the talk of purifying and rituals was just to make it all seem more important while the Eye goes around and identifies targets. Then they all got rounded up and slaughtered on the bloodstone. It’s entirely possible that it is some mursaat relic, but I doubt we’ll be seeing it again. Or maybe we will; ArenaNet has sprung a lot of surprises on us lately.

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Posted by: Amaimon.7823

Amaimon.7823

The thing is, we don’t even really know what being chosen meant. I’m pretty sure all the talk of purifying and rituals was just to make it all seem more important while the Eye goes around and identifies targets. Then they all got rounded up and slaughtered on the bloodstone. It’s entirely possible that it is some mursaat relic, but I doubt we’ll be seeing it again. Or maybe we will; ArenaNet has sprung a lot of surprises on us lately.

We do know, being chosen simply meant being a good or high-quality sacrifice for the bloodstone to power the gate of Komalie. What other qualities comes with it are unknown. Being ‘Chosen’ only says whether you were useful for that task, and nothing else.

It is generally believed that it measured how much magic a person has in their soul, but thats just speculation.

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Posted by: Sock.2785

Sock.2785

From the wiki: “At the end of the Sanctum Cay mission, the players learn they are Chosen, and therefore fit to Ascend and earn the gift of True Sight, becoming able to see the Mursaat.

Not only the Chosen possess high quantities of magic, more importantly they have the potential to become Ascended. Quite a threat for the Mursaat, as prophesied by Glint.
What a better way then than to kill them on the bloodstone? You get to use some powerful souls while at the same time getting rid of a potential threat, two birds with one stone.

My research has found a thread between magic and the mind. The two are linked.
— Snaff

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Posted by: trub.1657

trub.1657

It does strike me as strange the Mursaat did not (could not?) retrieve this artifact themselves…
Who created it?
Where did it come from? (Originally)
Soooo many questions!

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I have a pet- I am a Ranger.
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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

Technically we don’t know that’s what being Chosen meant. The term hasn’t been used – ever – since Prophecies, with the exception of the ghosts in GW2. It’s only used in relation of the Flameseeker Prophecies themselves as well, as being those meant to defeat the mursaat, or in reference to what the White Mantle say they’re looking for when using the Eye of Janthir.

We cannot be certain that the lines about magical capabilities or the ability to Ascend is what makes someone “Chosen” (or vise versa). For all we know, the only ones to be “Chosen” are those who would kill Khilbron (and do all that other stuff) and that being magically adept is unrelated to being Chosen or not.

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.

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Posted by: Sock.2785

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The term Chosen itself can be linked to the Flameseeker Prophecies (as in “destined to fulfill said prophecy”) or to the way the White Mantle uses it in relation to the Eye (as in “chosen by the Eye”), and, while it’s not sure if the two conincide, it seems to generally refer to people who are naturally favoured to Ascend (from the wiki: “the Gift of True Sight is a power that can be unlocked by Ascension, and is said to be dormant within the Chosen.”). While anyone (seemingly) has the potentiality to Ascend, those who we refer to as Chosen seem to possess a natural predisposition in doing so (which could result in a higher concentration of magic or in general to a more energetic soul). Why would the Eye even choose one over the other anyway? Unless the whole process is a farce and one’s soul really is equivalent to that of another one.

My research has found a thread between magic and the mind. The two are linked.
— Snaff