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Posted by: Zomaarwat.3912

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Is there a reason Jormag’s tooth doesn’t seem to be showing any sign of corrupting the surrounding area? There has to be some residual magic left in there, even if it was cut off from the main body.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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Jormag’s method of corruption differs greatly from the other Elder Dragons’ in that he tries to seduce his would-be victims with promises of power, worthiness, glory, and other things.

Furthermore, corruption has been shown to be an active intention, and not all magic of the Elder Dragon corrupts. For example, the blood of Kralkatorrik as well as a spear made from his spine do not corrupt but are highly magical (as seen in Edge of Destiny). The Sanguinary Blade is actually rather unique in the whole “corruption” part in regards to pieces of the Elder Dragons being used as weapons/objects.

So it isn’t unusual for the tooth to be non-corrupting, even if there’s magic left in it.

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Posted by: Zomaarwat.3912

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Jormag’s method of corruption differs greatly from the other Elder Dragons’ in that he tries to seduce his would-be victims with promises of power, worthiness, glory, and other things.

Furthermore, corruption has been shown to be an active intention, and not all magic of the Elder Dragon corrupts. For example, the blood of Kralkatorrik as well as a spear made from his spine do not corrupt but are highly magical (as seen in Edge of Destiny). The Sanguinary Blade is actually rather unique in the whole “corruption” part in regards to pieces of the Elder Dragons being used as weapons/objects.

So it isn’t unusual for the tooth to be non-corrupting, even if there’s magic left in it.

That sounds plausible. Still, you’d expect the ground or the chains to start turning blue at least a little.

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Posted by: Ranael.6423

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Not necessarily. Look how Grothmar hills seemed “normal” before Kralkatorik emerged from it. It was still living dragon body but not corrupted at all. I don’t think the body is the corruption, they seem to choose what they corrupt and how actively.

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

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Besides, I don’t think the norn would hold onto anything with even a trace of power left in it, if only because having the Sons constantly worshiping in your main hall would wear on the nerves.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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From the tooth you can see blueish-whitish ice-colored mist flowing out of the top of it, iirc.

But I see no reason why it would result in corruption (e.g., turning the surroundings into that blue/black shimmering ice stuff) since the magic in the tooth would have to have been geared for corrupting as it was broken off (presumably, given the nature of non-corrupting dragon pieces and corrupting Orrian relics).

If the tooth was corrupting, the norn wouldn’t have kept it nearby – they’d have it isolated and guarded and few if anyone would try to break it because getting near it would mean you’d possibly turn into an icebrood.

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Posted by: Kalavier.1097

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I think it’s a case of “It’s his tooth taken during combat” and thus not corrupting. Compared to say, jormag enchanted/corrupted magical artifacts.

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Posted by: Thalador.4218

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Konig

The Sanguinary Blade is actually rather unique in the whole “corruption” part in regards to pieces of the Elder Dragons being used as weapons/objects.

If I recall correctly, it was never stated that the Blade had been forged in a similar manner to Kralkatorrik’s spine-spear (that is, by anti-Elder Dragon people). Only that it was in the possession of Dagnar/the Stone Summit in the past. To me, the most likely explanation is that Jormag created it himself, infusing it with his malign, corrupting will, then bestowed it upon one of his proto-icebrood (the generation of icebrood during the last rise) champions. The champion was slain, however, and the possibly dwarf victor took the sword.

It wouldn’t be any different from that ichor blade Morgus Lethe wielded.

By the way, is it just me, or the Sanguinary Blade is a blatant ripoff of Frostmourne from Warcraft (minus the soul-leeching thing, although the corruption of the slain is quite close as it is)?

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Posted by: lakdav.3694

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I would be more interested in

1) what is the glass of the roof window of the Great Lodge is made of, since it can appearently hold the weight of both the massive chains and the fang itself?

2) if the tooth is invulnerable, how did they manage to drill the latches of the chains into its base?

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Posted by: Belzebu.3912

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1) what is the glass of the roof window of the Great Lodge is made of, since it can appearently hold the weight of both the massive chains and the fang itself?

The question is how thick that glass is, and keep in mind that was made by norns, so you know it is good quality

2) if the tooth is invulnerable, how did they manage to drill the latches of the chains into its base?

They glued the chains there, haha … well, who knows? It can really be some kind of glue.

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Posted by: Kalavier.1097

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The tooth itself might be invulnerable, but the base is not?

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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I figured the chains were wrapped around a bit at the top, rather than into. Like those jagged edges on the sides – just slip a loop around one per side and it’d be held up.

But my mental image of the tooth may be off.

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

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Just went back to check myself, and it looks like the chains do indeed attach to strips of metal bolted directly to the top of the tooth.

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Posted by: CureForLiving.5360

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Jormag’s method of corruption differs greatly from the other Elder Dragons’ in that he tries to seduce his would-be victims with promises of power, worthiness, glory, and other things.

Furthermore, corruption has been shown to be an active intention, and not all magic of the Elder Dragon corrupts. For example, the blood of Kralkatorrik as well as a spear made from his spine do not corrupt but are highly magical (as seen in Edge of Destiny). The Sanguinary Blade is actually rather unique in the whole “corruption” part in regards to pieces of the Elder Dragons being used as weapons/objects.

So it isn’t unusual for the tooth to be non-corrupting, even if there’s magic left in it.

Well the Sons have also been shown to be able to force corruption on to others. But yeah in the case of Jormag it seems it needs to be initiated in some way.

Not necessarily. Look how Grothmar hills seemed “normal” before Kralkatorik emerged from it. It was still living dragon body but not corrupted at all. I don’t think the body is the corruption, they seem to choose what they corrupt and how actively.

Well he was asleep and probably at a very very low power state (since EDs lose magic while they sleep). We’ve also seen some examples (especially from Zhaitan) where simply being exposed to relics is enough to start the corruption (with no sign of Zhaitan willing it so).

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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Well the Sons have also been shown to be able to force corruption on to others. But yeah in the case of Jormag it seems it needs to be initiated in some way.

The Sons forcing corruption onto others is little different than Necromancer Rissa from the charr storyline, whom forces Zhaitan’s corruption on the living (which slowly kills them without any apparent means of death). It seems by all accounts combined, that draconic corruption can corrupt in any form, but the Elder Dragons have a preference. Those whom are of enough self-decision (like the most powerful of dragon champions) and those whom handle the corruptive magic but are not corrupted (like the Inquest and Sons of Svanir) can use said corruption differently than the Elder Dragon prefers, but there is still that preference prevalent throughout the story and lore.

Well he was asleep and probably at a very very low power state (since EDs lose magic while they sleep). We’ve also seen some examples (especially from Zhaitan) where simply being exposed to relics is enough to start the corruption (with no sign of Zhaitan willing it so).

The Elder Dragons don’t seem to exhibit any corruption while asleep – the asura have been around Primordus for who knows how long, the Six Gods around Zhaitan (and even pulling magic from it aroubd 1 BE/Year 0), and the charr around Kralkatorrik since before 100 BE, and there’s no traces of corruption around them at all (corruption doesn’t just dissipate over time unless it is forcibly removed, usually by still-unknown means).

Those objects of corruption you mention were corrupted after Zhaitan’s rise, and not just because of their proximity to a sleeping dragon.

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