Guild Wars 2

Could ArenaNet make an in-game-library with the short stories that are available on the Guild Wars 2 site but in-game. Like an Asura-gate to a pocket dimension filled with books about creatures, lands from Guild Wars 1, possible new places to explore. And that gate could be accessible from Lion’s Arch and/or Fort Trinity. That way all those books and short stories that the developers have written wouldn’t go to waste. They could make an achievement like the Mariner from Lion’s Arch. This would be an interesting idea. They might rework it in a way that makes sense with the living world. I think it would be an awesome idea. Feel free to use it I claim no wrights on it. I just want to see something similar to kittenittenong’s library in game but different enough that it wouldn’t infringe on copyright and has to be in agreement with the world of Guild Wars 2.

This sounds like something more for the suggestion forum than the lore one. Bit it does sound like an interesting idea.

You’re far from the first to ask this. It’s been brought up time and time again in the Living World forums. And their response is “we don’t currently have the technology to implement the short stories into the game” (which is a BS excuse, IMHO, given it can just be given the same way The Founding is in Ebonhawke, if nothing else – standard dialogue trees!).

It’s a lot of pages though to flip through. Perhaps they want to do it right, and implement something similar to the hero’s handbook in Eye of the North?

But yes, technically I don’t see why it would be hard to implement, unless they have a hard coded limit on the number of pages.

There is a library in the Priory have fun

I get the feeling that they want one where they can read a bit more than an excerpt from one book in every fifty.

I meant a library with lots of books and achievements for reading a certain number or a certain category or both, they can do that, it just takes a lot of extra work to get all the texts they’ve written, put it in the game and make it a fun lecture. I know that with a little incentive even the newer players would love to start getting to know Tyria’s rich history. We’re just not that vocal enough to get the developers to do that. I know a lot of the first Guild Wars players and a lot of lore enthusiasts want this content in Guild Wars 2 because it would deepen their experience. A lot of content just goes over people’s heads without this feature implemented. Hopefully this topic gets addressed on the second or third year of Guild Wars 2. I like expanding the universe but I love patches like Zephyr Sanctum, patches like that show’s that the stuff that happened in Guild Wars and in the book Edge of Destiny matters. I want more patches like this, the Halloween ones and a few more that I’m forgetting. I want an in-game Library.

I’d say if they were to do this they should just put it in the Priory HQ, i mean seriously, out of every location in Tyria that makes the most sense!

Then again i may just be incredibly biased since i’m Priory…

It has to be a pact joint effort to actually making it a viable option similar to Sea of Sorrows (book) only better.

darkfiremew.5937:

It has to be a pact joint effort to actually making it a viable option similar to Sea of Sorrows (book) only better.

Why would the Library have to be a pact joint effort? The pact is for fighting the dragons, the priory is about gathering knowledge…

Durzlla.6295:

darkfiremew.5937:

It has to be a pact joint effort to actually making it a viable option similar to Sea of Sorrows (book) only better.

Why would the Library have to be a pact joint effort? The pact is for fighting the dragons, the priory is about gathering knowledge…

The of five or more civilizations are being destroyed by the elder dragons. Do you think that people don’t lose stuff during war like books, paintings, sculptures and other pieces of art. Things like that are lost during a confrontation. Stuff like that happens. Just think about the differences between Guild Wars 1+ expansions and Guild Wars 2. A lot of things have changed. We need a group effort just to remember stuff that changed. What happened even before Guild Wars 1 is a mystery. We don’t know everything what went on.

You know what is interesting?

they had a system like this in Guild Wars Eye of the North, as well as in an independend Update.

You could have a Book in your inventory, which simply updates as you progress in the story, your character basicly wrote in it, like in a diary. (i am talking about the Dungeon-Books and the “mini moa book”)

Anyway, the library idea is nice and should go into a sugestio forum, but if we think about a lore implementation, the priory might naturally be the way to go…

However it would also be kind of a pain to get there and the current HQ of the Priory doesn`t really support such an ordeal.

I guess what we need is something like the “B-Space” of the Discworld franchise.
A Library-Dimension, so to speak and with the mists and asura timey wimey it wouldn`t be unbelievable.

Though we got the fractals allready, so i think it would be to similiar.

In my opinion we need something like a priory vault. A place where they store, restore and maybe even digitalizing it for easier access.
Right now the priory itself does not really have the capacity for the things they are supposed to have.
They need a “warehouse”

btw… they pull out some very interesting things out in the story. where doey store thaqt anyway?

@darkfiremew do you even know what the priory is? The priory is a bunch of scholars from multiple races whose entire goal is to collect and preserve knowledge and artifacts. Their whole strategy vs the dragons is to use such knowledge they’ve been gathering to bring them down, IE: learn from the last to deal with the present.

@jaken actually the priory HQ would be perfect for it. If you go to the instanced version of it (I believe all orders are able to) there is an actual Library there, infact it already has books you can read inside of it, granted they are a bit on the weirder side and I’d hardly call them useful for learning the lore. They could pretty easily add some books into there, or hell do what they’ve been doing and add some Lore Golems to LA/the HQ or w/e that give you some details on stuff (normally there to give details on the LS, they’ve been in every update so far).

Durzlla.6295:

@darkfiremew do you even know what the priory is? The priory is a bunch of scholars from multiple races whose entire goal is to collect and preserve knowledge and artifacts. Their whole strategy vs the dragons is to use such knowledge they’ve been gathering to bring them down, IE: learn from the last to deal with the present.

@jaken actually the priory HQ would be perfect for it. If you go to the instanced version of it (I believe all orders are able to) there is an actual Library there, infact it already has books you can read inside of it, granted they are a bit on the weirder side and I’d hardly call them useful for learning the lore. They could pretty easily add some books into there, or hell do what they’ve been doing and add some Lore Golems to LA/the HQ or w/e that give you some details on stuff (normally there to give details on the LS, they’ve been in every update so far).

I’ve been to that magical place called Priory HQ but it’s poorly implemented. I want a real one, read previous posts of mine for the full description. And if you still don’t know why I said Pact library instead of Priory Library is because I want the Vigil and the Order of Whispers go get the books/reading material/artefacts because they can help. A lot of stuff gets destroyed in minor skirmishes between small parties. Dragons destroy and/or converts entire regions/ Scarlet reshapes the world map along side them. The list just goes on and on. And that’s just GW2. A lot happened on GW1 and the time between the first and second game.

You know what is interesting?

they had a system like this in Guild Wars Eye of the North, as well as in an independend Update.

You could have a Book in your inventory, which simply updates as you progress in the story, your character basicly wrote in it, like in a diary. (i am talking about the Dungeon-Books and the “mini moa book”)

Anyway, the library idea is nice and should go into a sugestio forum, but if we think about a lore implementation, the priory might naturally be the way to go…

However it would also be kind of a pain to get there and the current HQ of the Priory doesn`t really support such an ordeal.

I guess what we need is something like the “B-Space” of the Discworld franchise.
A Library-Dimension, so to speak and with the mists and asura timey wimey it wouldn`t be unbelievable.

Though we got the fractals allready, so i think it would be to similiar.

In my opinion we need something like a priory vault. A place where they store, restore and maybe even digitalizing it for easier access.
Right now the priory itself does not really have the capacity for the things they are supposed to have.
They need a “warehouse”

btw… they pull out some very interesting things out in the story. where doey store thaqt anyway?

I want a whole library of the books that you mentioned in that pocket space/alternate space/alternate sub-dimension artificially created to store lore and why not carry a book on stuff, that’s where achievements come in. You can have some of them on reading books, on borrowing them, on returning them. There are multiple possibilities.
Scarlet might be a lore-killer but not all of us know why. Not without a library. A Pact made library where all can study/ read lore stuff.

Now you are getting quite demanding.

While your idea makes some sense, it is not the only way to pursue said goal.

Taking aside the fact in GW2 the pact exist/does not exist for players (depending on how far they are in their personal story), implenting him in a LS update, prior to the combination of the timelines, would just confuse players.

Saying that the pact has to do everything is in fact not true. The pact exists to slay the dragon, subsequently they are gathering equipment and knowledge about power and everything that ties to dragons.

While Scarlet poses a thread to the people right now, she is appearently in no way on a scale that she rivals the elder dragons. If that were the case, we would have seen the pact take care of her as well as trying to get their hands on her technology.

Creating a “sub-dimension”, well yeah, could be an easy way out, but it would be the same as fractals. So yeah, been there, done that. It would feel like the “easy way out” as again: Asura and their wonky technologies.

While i don`t mind Asura creating a database, i think the mainproblem is in fact the idea, that Arenanet thinks we have to adjust the implemented UI for that matter, which is kinda stupid, as we have seen them implementing things like the books i mentioned in GW1 and giving us gimicky items to replay sequences for our inventory.
Have it open a booklinke window, with an indexpage for quick referencing and voila. Ingame diary/recap.. done… heck, it would even be immersive, as we would be reading a book.
That or give us the app allready, so we can use our tablets or phones or whatever to read these things, instead of hopping onto the wiki.

Comming back to the ingame implementation and lore.
Again, if we look at who gathers information it is mostly the priory and the order of whispers. So we would have to groups that are actually are actively gathering and processing information.

The question is, who would would we turn to, to gain access to these information and to be frank, the answer is rather obvious: The priory.

The Order of Whispers are basicly a spy organisation, so while they might have said knowledge, the general public would not be able to get access. In fact i don`t think the general public should know what the OoW knows anyway…

The Priory however embraces knowledge and wants to share it for the greater good (mostly). They process the old knowldge and actively show up around the world to study and supervice different projects.
Since their goal is to further the knowledge of the world throughout Tyria, building a facility which grants access to the “basic knowledge of the world” aka a historia of old and current events, as well as the possibility to gain access to further topics, would definetly be in their favour.
(basic knowledge, since there is definetly some things which are deamed to dangerous for not initiated in the order, or the common man)

@Durzlla
Yes, the Priory has indeed a room which can be called a library, however it i small, cramped and feels more like a storage room, then a library. Somehow i expect a bit more organisation, which is why i envision something like a seperate “warehouse” or vault, for the colective knowledge.
But that was more some random thought.

Something that could work for a LS update could be the priory building a huge public library in LA or something to help share their knowledge and make it more accessible, I mean seriously, in a lore perspective that’d be the BEST place for it, everyone could access it fairly easily from there, and it’d be a lot easier than tracking through the shiver peaks to their HQ.

It might sound that I’m demanding, I’m just suggesting something that deepens the player understanding of the Guild Wars lore. There are a lot of stories that many players don’t know, stories that that they may never know unless they read about it on many different sites, forums and/or fanfics. Just because the players didn’t complete their personal story doesn’t mean that the pact didn’t create it. They can program the text in a certain way like they did with the Frost and Flame patches so that the story isn’t spoiled for the non story completed player. And that doesn’t mean that the library is the only thing that is in that dimension, there may be a museum as well. Not just books but paintings, sculptures, artefacts as well in the same mini-dimension. Achievements for everything, because they are important.

Why not make a Library with books that have links to webpages with the actual stories on them?

ThiBash.5634:

Why not make a Library with books that have links to webpages with the actual stories on them?

1) That would break your immersion.
2) We need to do this in an in-game context like the living world for example.
3) On some computers it would crash the system(I have experience with other games that did that).
4) It would be a cop-out on actually creating something interesting in Guild Wars 2.

Besides the library in the Durmand Priory is instanced, has only few books, lousy placing of said books, tight space and no achievement that I’m aware of .

This sounds like something more for the suggestion forum than the lore one. Bit it does sound like an interesting idea.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/A-Library-For-Lore-and-Past-Events
You are right, I have recently found this thread, but I’ve gotten the idea from the youtube channel http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYUY9_i44IDNOs_Ja815mlA.
I like his stuff on the Guild Wars series. I just modified it to match my perspective.
I know I’m not that original, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t want a library coupled with a museum of Tyria, Elona, Cantha an other continents that the developers haven’t shown us yet. I want a place like the Doctor Who show said “where he keeps score”.