Guild Wars 2

In Guild Wars 1: Flameseeker Prophesies players tagged along with 5 heroes throughout the campaign. The Guild Wars 2 campaign gathered 5 Heroes, one of each playable race, to take on elder dragon Zaitan. The motif of the 5 heroes is being continued through the Living Story events. With the disputes of Destiny’s Edge all settled it is unlikely that new conflicts would arise between them. Instead a new group of five is in the making.

Rox, Braham, and Kiel are the new heroes so far. Eir Stegalkin is the mother of Braham and the two dont get along. When threre’s conflict, there’s a stroy. So Eir is very likely to be in the new group. The fifth member could be Rytlock Brimstone since he has a connection with Rox. If these characters are to be the new 5 then we could see the next elder dragon reveal at the end or after the Dragon Bash event. Wouldn’t it be epic to have the next elder dragon crash the festival as a reveal?

If it doesn’t happen then probably 2 more heroes will need to be introduced before we can expect to tackle the next elder dragon. Most likely an asura and a sylvari to create a group of each playable race similar to Destiny’s Edge.

All of this is just fun theory crafting and not official ….yet.

Errrrm, except in GW2 the main and most important reason Destiny’s Edge has 5 members is because there are 5 races (and also because mechanics-wise the maximum party size is 5).
Also I don’t think you go and completely disregard Destiny’s Edge after having an entire game which establishes them. The new characters are just that, new characters, I honestly don’t think we’re going to see them all band together into a new group of heroes. A couple of them might work together sure, but that is likely to be in these smaller story elements like the living story.

As for an elder dragon crashing the festival…. I don’t think it’s likely, considering the size and location of the elder dragons left. But I definitely think some of their minions could gate-crash (although even that I wouldn’t think is all too likely). If the thing Anet has alluded to has something to do with the dragons I would think the most you could hope for would be a Dragon Champion (which would still be cool).

(Also any future groups of heroes they create would definitely have to have one of each race, especially since Sylvari are <3 and Asura seem to be Anets prodigal children – but as I said, I don’t think they’d do that)

Destiny’s Edge and the Pact will probably resurface in the next full expansion with the next Elder Dragon. The living story characters and the orders will stay in the living story. This will allow the two story arcs to be run in any sequence by the players.

i hope they will admit that dagons were the worst choice ever made to Guild wars. We can’t fight them a heroic way, and they don’t do as much influence as the story recommends it.

I hope the next expansion will have another objective or at lest some others, or a real way to fight them. pressing 22222222 makes me feel that my class is nothing compared to the evolving technology, I’m totally useless and doomed to disappear, and dragons are overhyped.

Also, Kasmeer has more chances than Kiel to be a “new hero” because she better represents Divinity’s Reach. Kiel represents de Lionguard, a multiracial organization (she responds to Magnus, a Norn, not to the human government), just like Tybalt is more an Order of Whispers guy than a proper Charr hero figure like Rytlock.

Also it has been announced that Logan Thackeray will be around in the incomming festival, this is to be noted because both the norn and the charr young heros had their DE representatives around for their stories. We know Kiel, Kasmeer and Kasmeer partner Marjory will be around too. As I said Kiel is more a Lionguard than a Divinity’s Reach representative, and Marjory seems more like Kasmeer story background like Ottila was to Braham. I have the theory she will end up revealing to be a Shining Blade.

We will have to wait for the festival but I think Kasmeer and not Kiel will be the prominent new human hero.

PS: Aditionally Kasmeer shares with Rox and Braham unique face and hairstyle, something we can only see in those 3 as far as I know, and Kasmeer in the image they revealed had 100% new armor like Braham. Kiel only has unique shoulderpads and that’s all.

Kasmeer has yet to do anything other than stand around in a bikini and gossip before I will take her into consideration for anything.

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

Kasmeer has yet to do anything other than stand around in a bikini and gossip before I will take her into consideration for anything.

Of course she has to do anything else than standing around in a bikini (or in her armour that is nearly as light as her bikini), but she has all the ingredients. At least more than Kiel.

What ingredients are those?

The ingredients that Kasmeer has:
- celebrity status
- noble background
- a popular hairstyle
- no development (she literally hasn’t moved an inch since she was introduced to the game.)

The ingredients that Kiel has:
- a job, leading a team
- fighting skills
- responsibility
- somewhat of a social conscience / rogue attitude
- an active role in two Southsun stories, some character development

I don’t know, I don’t get the obsession over Kasmeer for what she is, but there is currently nothing in the game (not even in the NPC dialogues as far as I can see) that suggests that Kasmeer deserves to ever be considered for an elite team of dragon fighters, alongside Rox and Braham. Ellen Kiel might not be the most interesting person, and her character development wasn’t nearly as fleshed out as Rox’ and Braham’s, but: she got some.

There is of course a possibility that Kasmeer will get some character development in the future, and I can see that is what people hope for. But as of right now, that’s speculation and wishful thinking, based on… what?

The strongest hint is simply that Kasmeer has a unique model, while Kiel doesn’t. Also there was a story bit about Kasmeer arriving on Southsun, hinting that there is more about her than just standing around and being pretty.
We’ll have to wait and see what comes from this. But I agree her introduction was a bit underwhelming. I’m pretty sure in the end she will be another failed attempt at making an intersting NPC, just like Braham and Rox were, or most of Destiny’s Edge.
The best characters Anet produces are the side characters, like Tybalt, Kiel, Magnus and so on. But no, they get shoved aside for the pretty ones with new unique models. Bah!

@FlamingFoxx – The reasoning behind the making of a new group of heroes is that most stories are a build up to some epic climax. Having Rox, Braham, and Kiel being part of something bigger than their Living Stories is a good opportunity that Anet shouldn’t pass up and it would be good to do it sooner than later since we are just beginning to know them, plus the stories of Rox and Braham are still unresolved. I know that the story of Destiny’s Edge is not over, after all they still need to avenge Snaff and fight elder dragon Kralkatorrik as a form of redemption. Does Destiny’s Edge have to fight every single Elder Dragon? The story would end up feeling repetitive.

If Destiny’s Edge is to regroup for another elder dragon or crisis then something needs to happen and Braham could be the lead to do just that. In Guild Wars 1: Factions Mehnlo, one of the 5, gets an urgent letter from his teacher Master Togo and off they go to the next campaign. In Factions, a relationship between one of the 5 and a new character was used to get the story going and the same could happen in Guild Wars 2. Braham being the stubborn hard headed guy, could very well go off on his own to rescue Ottilia and gets into trouble thus prompting his mother Eir to go after him with the rest of Destiny’s Edge.

@Lokheit – Im with Pixelpumpkin. Kasmeer feels more of a spoiled rich girl than a hero. It feels that way after hearing her dialogue at Southsun.

also, the new dialogues of Braham in Cragstead (you can enter the post F&F-version now) seems to indicate that he has no desire to follow his mothers footsteps, though it seems there might be a reunion between them on the way. See screenshots

Thx Mercury, after seeing your post i went there and found out that Ottilia has been found and that she was at Hoelbrak. Braham being the lead for the next elder dragon, BUSTED!

btw, It seems that Rox is busy joining a new elite warband called the stone warband (Rytlock’s warband) and is currently undertaking trials.

If you want to see that dialogue go to the hatchery.

LMAO. So it would be too repetitive to have Destiny’s Edge fight all the ED’s. But it isn’t too repetitive for you to do so?
They aren’t going to bring in another group when DE has already had so much setup and reason for them fighting the ED’s.

In Factions it worked because we had gone off into a strange new land. The enemies in Factions were not enemies to Devona and co (or at least they didn’t know they were). But note how Devona and co came back for Nightfall where we were fighting a fallen god who threatened the entire world…

In GW2 we are still on the continent of Tyria and Destiny’s Edge formed with the purpose of taking down the Elder Dragons and their Champions. Arenanet would be imbeciles to drop them as main characters because it wouldn’t make sense story-wise to say ‘hey look at these heroes who have banded together to try and do everything they can to save the world. Oh sorry, they’re not really trying anymore’. Yes you could argue that they were disbanded for much of the GW2 storyline, but they were still connected to one another through the storyline and still all trying to deal with the dragons in some way.

FlamingFoxx.1305:

LMAO. So it would be too repetitive to have Destiny’s Edge fight all the ED’s. But it isn’t too repetitive for you to do so?
They aren’t going to bring in another group when DE has already had so much setup and reason for them fighting the ED’s.

In Factions it worked because we had gone off into a strange new land. The enemies in Factions were not enemies to Devona and co (or at least they didn’t know they were). But note how Devona and co came back for Nightfall where we were fighting a fallen god who threatened the entire world…

In GW2 we are still on the continent of Tyria and Destiny’s Edge formed with the purpose of taking down the Elder Dragons and their Champions. Arenanet would be imbeciles to drop them as main characters because it wouldn’t make sense story-wise to say ‘hey look at these heroes who have banded together to try and do everything they can to save the world. Oh sorry, they’re not really trying anymore’. Yes you could argue that they were disbanded for much of the GW2 storyline, but they were still connected to one another through the storyline and still all trying to deal with the dragons in some way.

Even though I disagree with the OP’s theory, you are also making to big steps in the way you are going against it. Where on earth is it written that we stay in Tyria (continent) and dont move to Cantha or Elona??

I am not of those fanboys that is saying that just cause we went to Cantha/elona in gw1 we should and will go there again. But saying no to that is another conclusion I can’t share.

Will Rox and Braham play a role in more future content?? Yes I truly believe so. Just like they took time to develop Destiny’s Edge, they are now taking time to develop them. But how big the role is and to what extend?? I have a feeling that either Braham or Eir will not make it out of GW2 alive. But I can be wrong as the person that thought the time was ripe for greatswords with an omnomberry frosting for extra luck….

mercury ranique.2170:

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Oh please don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying we aren’t ever going to Cantha or Elona. I’m just saying that we’re more likely to deal with an Elder Dragon that is ON the continent of Tyria before we go visiting Elona or Cantha. GW2’s map covers roughly the same areas as the EoTN map yet a lot of it isn’t yet explorable. We’re more likely to expand up into northern Tyria to places already on the map before we go to Elona or Cantha. Also, moving to Elona or Cantha would still either stick of Destiny’s Edge or it would establish a new set of heroes, they aren’t going to bring Rox and Braham to Cantha for no reason at all..

FlamingFoxx.1305:

mercury ranique.2170:

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Oh please don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying we aren’t ever going to Cantha or Elona. I’m just saying that we’re more likely to deal with an Elder Dragon that is ON the continent of Tyria before we go visiting Elona or Cantha. GW2’s map covers roughly the same areas as the EoTN map yet a lot of it isn’t yet explorable. We’re more likely to expand up into northern Tyria to places already on the map before we go to Elona or Cantha. Also, moving to Elona or Cantha would still either stick of Destiny’s Edge or it would establish a new set of heroes, they aren’t going to bring Rox and Braham to Cantha for no reason at all..

I know, I’m just stating that the OP presented some fan fiction. Either give good facts that makes it less likely (like my braham dialogue) or present your own as fan-fiction as well.

I had a strong argument (not fuly settled I might add) with Konig. When it comes to lore it is very important to keep facts, possiblility’s and fanfiction seperate. The OP presented this as a theory (so fan fiction). And your post starts very disrespectfull with LMAO, followed by a something you present as a strong fact ‘They aren’t going to bring in another group’.

I know you mean well, but please try to make clear in your posts what facts are, what supported possibility’s are and what pure fanfiction is. Above all, treat people with respect. LMAO over what someone else is saying equals to laughing straight in someone’s face and is in my personal opinion very disrespectfull.

Thanks guys for all the replies. I have really enjoyed exploring you’re perspectives and I have learned a few new things. Can’t wait to know when the next elder dragon is gonna show. Until then I look forward to more discussions in the future.

Well we will have to be with destinys edge when we fight kralkatorrik I’d imagine though it seems the next dragon we will come up against will be the jungle dragon (presumably named mordremoth).