~Surrender fiend and you will get an easy death
~I could promise you the same…but it would be a lie…
So we know Eir went to retrieve Magdaer from Ascalon Catacombs, and surmised it was repairable, what became of it? I have been watching closely to personal stories to see if anything was mentioned, but so far haven’t seen anything. Anyone have some insight? Also I am curious as to whether or not it will produce flame again if it was repaired. Since we were told all the flaming dragon swords in GW1 were replicas, I assume the process is fairly easy to repeat and should the sword be repaired it’s likely it will burn again.
I have a feeling that it may be involved in a long storyline which starts with the reforging of the weapon and ends with the removal of ascalonian ghosts. I would love to be a part of that, along with other large scale shifts in the world.
The process of making replicas would be easier, as those aren’t as powerful. Magdaer is an Orrian artifact so it’s far more powerful and magical, so repairing it would be harder. However, after it is repaired, I suspect it will be used in further negotiations between humans and charr. Why?
Wade Samuelsson. That’s why.
To elaborate: Wade Samuelsson is the Duke of Ebonhawke, Commander of the Ebon Vanguard, and a direct descendant of Ascalonian kings. There are stories that a “true heir” of Ascalon must go to Ascalon City with Magdaer or Sohothin in hand to end the ghost threat. If Queen Jennah, Logan, and/or anyone in the delegation were to believe such, they would motion for the sword to be given to Wade and for him to go into Ascalon City – perhaps a (re)confrontation with Adelbern.
That’s just my guess though.
Or Jennah, but Wade would be the more interesting approach.
But yes, in an expansion this is definitely going to be one of the things expanded upon besides dragon killing
The only known descendants of Doric are Jennah and Wade. And since we know of them, we tend to think that one of those two will end up with Magdaer.
Jennah is a queen. She is of royalty, so she seems perfect for the case. But only human toons get to meet her. The other races only hear about her during the dungeon stories. She tries to be friends with the Charr, but she is no fighter. And Logan would never allow her to enter Ascalon City, since it is pretty dangerous, he loves her and she is a queen.
Wade is a fighter and a descendant of Doric. He could defend himself, but only players who join the vigil ever meet him. I only played the whisperers story line. And have never even heard of Wade. He is not prominent enough. And there doesn’t seem a connection between him and Eir, who has Magdaer now.
The only one who seems to be able to handle the danger and has a connection to Eir and is even a descendant of Ascalonians is Logan.
King Adelbern: “You’ve defeated me, but what’ve you gained? Much deadlier things stir beneath us. They’ll consume you all!”
Eir: “Magdaer is shattered, but I know a blacksmith who can mend these pieces.”
Rytlock: “Did you really think that if you got me a sword you’d earn forgiveness?”
Eir: “For you? The sword would be for Logan.”
Rytlock: “What? Why would you risk our lives, MY life, for that coward?”
Eir: “I thought it would heal old wounds. It would remind you—”
Rytlock: “Remind me of what, betrayal? Pah! You’ve become a sentimental old woman.”
Rytlock: “We’re finished here!”
Party leader: “Why does Rytlock hate Logan?”
Eir: “Mistakes from a lifetime ago, best forgotten.”
Eir: “Rytlock’s right. I’ve gotten too sentimental. Too weak.”
This is the end dialoque of AC. Eir intends to give Magdaer to Logan. To me, it looks like Logan will have to solve the ghost problem.
Considering that fighting Ascalonian Ghosts makes up a good chunk of the Dynamic Events and Renown Hearts in Ascalon, it would require an extreme rework of all those zones (and therefore, a very odd effect on World Completion regarding those hearts), to have those Ghosts be removed. It’s safe to say that Magdaer being used to clear out the ghosts is something that will be happening sometime far in the future, and possibly not in the course of the playable game.
Like I said, it’s obviously only possible in a paid expansion. They can clean the zones if they wanted to that way, like with Orr.
And in the Catacombs, when Eir talks about giving the sword to Logan, she’s just saying it’s a peace offering thing to make him want to regroup. Logan isn’t a descendant of Doric (that we know of, I’ll admit). Since Rytlock has one, if Logan had the other, then it would be a kind of truce between them, since Logan’s whole thing is taking both swords back to the human hands. So if he had one of them, they could come to some middle ground
He could defend himself, but only players who join the vigil ever meet him.
My character isn’t of the vigil, he met him in Ebonhawke – he’s near the farms.
Besides, meeting him before or not is irrelevant – I mean, my charr never met Logan before sans when he argued with Rytlock, but he went to help him at Caudecus’ Manor.
This is the end dialoque of AC. Eir intends to give Magdaer to Logan. To me, it looks like Logan will have to solve the ghost problem.
But Logan never receives it, and Eir seems to change her mind at the end.
Plus, even if Logan receives it from Eir, nothing says he won’t give it to Jennah or Wade. I mean, he’s not a descendant of the Ascalonian kings, so how can he be a rightful heir to the throne? At least, until he marries Jennah.
@Mander: That’s like arguing Prophecies areas should have been completely altered when Nightfall came out, since three years passed. I mean, by the time you kill Zhaitan in t he personal story, then all of Orr should have been changed in appearance and the risen should have been reduced in number. As you go on into new zones, the events of old zones are “in the past” – you’re effectively time traveling every time you go back to Queensdale. This is a limitation of mechanics.
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