Guild Wars 2

This just struck me: Sylvari are free from Mordremoth’s corruption and are their own beings. But what about the far corrupted Sylvari that apparently changed into the Mordrem Commanders we face in events? will they be able to change back? what about the sylvari that betrayed the Pact? do they retain their memories?

We don’t know. Hopefully Anet will address this incredibly important loose thread in Season 3.

Its not called a loose thread if we literally arent even chronologicaly at the part of the story where this even COULD be addressed.
As far as the stories narrative is concerned, mordremoth JUST died, as in moments ago. Its not a loose thread, its a future plot point.

Not really. The raid takes place post-Mordremoth, and has dialogue regarding it in the first wing, and the second wing talks about how it is weeks after the first wing.

Of course, it still isn’t a loose thread, really, seeing as we’ve not touched the mordrem situation beyond a few lifeless vines and mention of the Pact scouting north for mordrem forces.

Which basically tells us that the mordrem are still around, but this says nothing about the Mordrem Guard which were never traditionally corrupted. It is theoretically possible for a Mordrem Guard to return to their old self with no more whispering from Mordremoth – presuming they aren’t pressured into that mindset (-coughCanachyoumoron!cough-) at least – but the three Commanders might be a unique situation entirely.

A part of me kind of hopes at least one of the commanders returns to a normal state of mind, only to be told they can’t fix the physical changes Modremoth bestowed.

So then we’d have a 20 foot tall super Sylvari fighting for us.

In one of the TD missions, one of the achievements involves Canach trying to talk down one of Mordy’s sylvari soldiers. He does seem to not want to kill us, until he succumbs again to Mordy’s sexy voice.

I think that means that there is still some level of free will in them, and that I assume some of them could go back to normal.

Ergo, we could actually have a super Sylvari fighting for us. That would be pretty funny to see the tower commanders with us taking on dragons.

Not just that but Occam’s dialogue during repeats of Prisoners of the Dragon and several other banter from sylvari (especially the sylvari PC) indicate that Mordremoth doesn’t enforce his will on sylvari (like traditional dragon minions) but instead that he implants thoughts that he tries to make the sylvari think are their own.

Those who find these new thoughts odd and unlike themselves would ignore them, while those who don’t become Mordrem Guard.

The appearance change was explained during Season 1, technically, when we saw Canach have a drastic physical change – sylvari who undergo drastic psychological changes also undergo physical changes.

Commanders are a bit unique for mordrem guard, however, given that they die and respawn in new bodies. Which would make them far more like mordrem than Mordrem Guard. Especially since Diarmird was made from a corpse (according to Occam, he saw Diarmird die in the crash). So it might be that they’re traditional mordrem that are based off of the three sylvari. Hard to say given that ArenaNet had cut out part of their story (like Malyck and the Nightmare Court).

Very true; forgot about that part.

Still, it would be very interesting to see Anet address how the remaining mordrem guard fare after Mordy’s defeat. They probably won’t but eh, a guy can hope.

Honestly the fate of the Modrem Guard is the one major plot thread that NEEDS to be resolved in Season 3. We can’t be running around Maguuma fighting Modrem Guard if the Modrem Guard are good guys now, and if they are still evil we need an explanation.

Personally I am hoping for a new Modrem Court. A Sylvari equivalent to the Sons of Svanir who now have fully embraced their destiny as Modremoth’s minions and are seeking a way to resurrect him. They don’t need to be the main threat ever again, but as a side threat like the Risen after Zhaitan’s fall would be wonderful.

Well, there’s Mordrem guards that are regular Sylvari, and the ones that are clones made up from corpses (Diarmid) or living “templates” (Logan, Zojja), right ? Wouldn’t be surprised if the clones are the ones we would be fighting after Mordremoth’s death.
I hope the fate of the Mordrem guards that were former Sylvari is going to be one of the plot point of LS3, indeed. There’s no hive mind going on with them, so… while I can see some of them staying on Mordremoth’s side, there’s definitely some other that would want to live as Sylvari again, and would probably face some prejudice even within their own race.

Since mordy died in a different way then how zhaitan died. im actually interested in seeing what will happen to the non sylvari mordrem.

PetboyJoshua.3108:

Well, there’s Mordrem guards that are regular Sylvari, and the ones that are clones made up from corpses (Diarmid) or living “templates” (Logan, Zojja), right ? Wouldn’t be surprised if the clones are the ones we would be fighting after Mordremoth’s death.

The latter are just mordrem, actually. Mordrem Guard are solely sylvari who turned and despite the name, aren’t mordrem anymore than standard sylvari are.

I believe there was an article about mordrem guard and they do indeed remember everything which made them so dangerous for the pact because they knew all the tactics they would use. We know they can be cleansed because of Twitchy and Glint, but if they would keep their appearance or revert back to Sylvari, who knows? And what ideals they might have when they submitted and accepted Mordremoth’s will, who’s to say?

I am now intrigued. In a lore Q&A post Scott said the following:

“I have no further info to share regarding the “Mordrem Guard who seemed to revert back to their original personality once given a reprieve from Mordy’s influence, Stavemaster Adryn’s backstory”, the sylvari society’s approach to “reclaiming” someone from Nightmare, and the impact of the Pale Tree’s coma on new sylvari."

He mentions the Mordrem guard reclaiming their personality, not their original form though, also Adryn is one of the heavily morphed Sylvari into a monstrous champion in DS. This gives me hope that Anet simply MIGHT not go the route “Mordy died and every sylvari is ok now” I really really hope we get an explanation to this