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Posted by: bearshaman.3421

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It would seem confirmation that the ley line craziness as a direct result of Mordremoth’s death is confirmed, but the nature of ley lines and magic in general is still up for grabs. Not to mention, the gate coming on at the end…

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

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First thought: Lack of sleep does not make you smart or hilarious. It does, however, make you more likely to think something is smart or hilarious.

More thoughts may come when I’ve had more time to reflect.

To those who think Scarlet hate means she’s succeeded as a villain:
People don’t hate Scarlet like Game of Thrones fans hate Joffrey.
They hate her the way Star Wars fans hate Jar Jar Binks.

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Posted by: Goldfox.5729

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The gate opening at the end is most likely the gate that leads further into Rata Novus. The gate that the last Asurans of Rata Novus used to flee the Chak overrunning the city.

‘’Many have eyes, but few have seen.’’ – Scriptures of Lyssa, 45 BE

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Posted by: Nero.8047

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I’m with Goldfox here, not how there are no asura corpses in Rata Novus.
They could’ve been taken away by the Chak but I’d rather think they simply fled.

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Posted by: Loki.9462

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I don’t know why (mabe because of what happened in lw2) my first thought when i’ve read about gate was “Godkitten inquest again” and that Taimi will again play a role of ‘Damsel in distress’. But the idea of novans is far more interesting

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Posted by: Jaken.6801

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Yay, the unprotected little handicaped asura is getting visitors…

I hope it gets adressed how she was kept safe.
I eman, yes, we cleared the souroundings for he time being and we reactivated some security, however that didn’t stopped the Chakk before.

Furthermore, how did she get info on the Egg? She said that she didn’t want to involve outsiders, so she had to send someone (golem?) or go to Tarir herself… without Scruffy…

So yeah…

I like Taimi, but she keeps being a liabality.

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Posted by: Donari.5237

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Good question, Jaken. Though she does mention having limited contact with friends. Perhaps the Priory folks she started bossing around at the gold towers? They could have told her about the egg glowing. She’s surrounded by tech, and we know from various PS episodes that asura do have long distance voice transmission capabilities. She might have set something up.

I’m still wondering what she’s eating. Perhaps Plant will succumb to ravenous asura teeth.

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Posted by: DarcShriek.5829

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The Rata Novans are returning. It’s reasonable to assume that the Rata Novans also have a ley-line map. Therefore, they would know the dragon is dead, the amount of ley-line energy is reduced, and the chak problem should be reduced with the ley-line energy.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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The notion of Rata Novans – while possible – seems odd. They randomly decide to return after 100 years of abandonment? Why?

I’m with Goldfox here, not how there are no asura corpses in Rata Novus.
They could’ve been taken away by the Chak but I’d rather think they simply fled.

There’d be no corpses, only skeletons, after 100 years of being dead.

If the bodies weren’t eaten by chak. I mean, did we ever check chak poop?

Yay, the unprotected little handicaped asura is getting visitors…

I hope it gets adressed how she was kept safe.
I eman, yes, we cleared the souroundings for he time being and we reactivated some security, however that didn’t stopped the Chakk before.

Furthermore, how did she get info on the Egg? She said that she didn’t want to involve outsiders, so she had to send someone (golem?) or go to Tarir herself… without Scruffy…

So yeah…

I like Taimi, but she keeps being a liabality.

She outright says she talked to Caithe.

So people have been visiting her. She has NOT been alone this whole time. Just most of it. In that one room with all the Elder Dragon and ley line research information.

The Chak are most likely busy with the rest of the city full of Whispers/Pact members – and the iconics/biconics visiting now and then.

The Rata Novans are returning. It’s reasonable to assume that the Rata Novans also have a ley-line map. Therefore, they would know the dragon is dead, the amount of ley-line energy is reduced, and the chak problem should be reduced with the ley-line energy.

They were gone for 100 years before Mordremoth was a threat.

And wouldn’t more ley line energy (it isn’t reduced – it’s increased and erratically moving) mean the chak could become a bigger problem?

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Posted by: Darknicrofia.2604

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My take on what’s been happening:

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Posted by: Nero.8047

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The notion of Rata Novans – while possible – seems odd. They randomly decide to return after 100 years of abandonment? Why?

I’m with Goldfox here, not how there are no asura corpses in Rata Novus.
They could’ve been taken away by the Chak but I’d rather think they simply fled.

There’d be no corpses, only skeletons, after 100 years of being dead.

If the bodies weren’t eaten by chak. I mean, did we ever check chak poop?

You make a fair point for the return of the Novans.
I was indeed referring to the skeletons as “corpses”, I haven’t seen any Asuran bones in Rata Novus.

A-net has a fair bit of ways to claim the Chak have discarded of the bones though.

  • Chak Acid, we’ve seen it melt a lot, I presume it’s able to “melt” bone.
  • Bones could’ve been dragged away, I presume the Chak make their hives and nests entirely out of their spit/acid but it could certainly be possible to find some bones in that mixture.
  • They’re bones! A decent source for calcium, magnesium phosphorus and potassium! The Chak are organisms and they could very well have consumed the bones to strengthen their exoskeleton-Chitin.

TL;DR I got swept up by a baseless theory and although similar events are possible they could also easily be disproven. The only real remaining option is to simply await the next lore-entry or LS3.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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The lack of asuran bones may be even more simple…

ArenaNet has only ever made bone models for humans and large behemoths.

Kind of curious tbh… so clearly… ASURA HAVE NO BONES!

/s

Acid is a good likelihood for why no bones.

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Posted by: Jaken.6801

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Ah, yes. I remembered it a bit wrong.
I confused her looking at her ley line map vs getting info on the egg itself through Caithe.

Btw. since when is Caithe labeled “good” again.
On the other hand, we got our naive little Asura talking here.

Looking at part 2, though, they adressed some concerns.

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Posted by: Rhaegar.1203

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So… Rata Sumians are now seen in Rata Novus; does that mean that the TD map will be updated and we’ll see more Asurans in there?

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Posted by: Donari.5237

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One can hope, but LS changes seldom affect open world maps. Having a passel of Sumians in Novus would affect the meta of getting Rata Lane defenses on line in time for the Gerent.

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

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Btw. since when is Caithe labeled “good” again.

We’re all chummy again when we talk to her after Mordremoth dies. I think it’s safe to say our plot-induced fit of unjustified paranoia has passed.

R.I.P., Old Man of Auld Red Wharf. Gone but never forgotten.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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Btw. since when is Caithe labeled “good” again.
On the other hand, we got our naive little Asura talking here.

The “plot-induced fit of unjustified paranoia” as Aaron called it (very apt description) went away with Faolain’s death.

Yup. That fast. For something that in all honesty should never have existed from the PC, Rytlock, and Canach.

And I think player reactions to that might have had a hand in them deciding to so quickly make her friendly with others again.

Regarding part two:

I’d been very careful about what I powered up to keep the chak numbers down, but these mindless numskulls are flipping switches left and right! History is bound to repeat itself at this rate! At least we know the causality of the chak and their appetite for ley energy. I think the Rata Novans figured that out a little too late. The chak are already popping up more often -snip-

Something tells me this is going to play a part in LW3. I suspect we’ll begin by going to check up in Taimi and her research, counter another chak invasion, and she’ll inform us of ley line fluxuations that send us elsewhere before we get detoured with a coup d’etat in Kryta.

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Posted by: bearshaman.3421

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Edited the title to account for the ongoing story.

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Posted by: Sartharina.3542

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One can hope, but LS changes seldom affect open world maps. Having a passel of Sumians in Novus would affect the meta of getting Rata Lane defenses on line in time for the Gerent.

… last I checked, there was still a massive ruined tower in Kessex Hills, there are noninteractive weird energy things all over the map, a few broken waypoints, and mordrem vines all over Brisban, Kessex Hills, and Iron Marches. And there’s an island full of Giant Enemy Crabs.

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Posted by: Donari.5237

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Ok, perhaps I should have said seldom seamlessly affect the maps. Leftover detritus is one thing. But note how the centaurs still do their events as if none of the Kessex stuff is there. I would be miffed if ANet puts a lot of Sumian researchers into Rata Novus, who putter around being all excited even while the meta event keeps cycling to have the city opened up and defenses brought on line, since the influx of researchers happens after all that.

Unless, of course, they also modify the meta to suit the advancement of the story, and that’s the part I haven’t seen happen.

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Posted by: OriOri.8724

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One can hope, but LS changes seldom affect open world maps. Having a passel of Sumians in Novus would affect the meta of getting Rata Lane defenses on line in time for the Gerent.

… last I checked, there was still a massive ruined tower in Kessex Hills, there are noninteractive weird energy things all over the map, a few broken waypoints, and mordrem vines all over Brisban, Kessex Hills, and Iron Marches. And there’s an island full of Giant Enemy Crabs.

Note that the tower and leftover energy probes are from S1 where ANet was experimenting with permanently changing maps. There is a reason they no longer do that, it was a horrible idea.

Events are one thing to add, and the bandits and ley line events are just that, events. But we haven’t had anything since the mordrem invasion of Tyria, before S2 started, that permanently changed a map

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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Note that the tower and leftover energy probes are from S1 where ANet was experimenting with permanently changing maps. There is a reason they no longer do that, it was a horrible idea.

Events are one thing to add, and the bandits and ley line events are just that, events. But we haven’t had anything since the mordrem invasion of Tyria, before S2 started, that permanently changed a map

Centaurs continue to lay siege to a nigh-abandoned fortress destroyed by Mordremoth.

This was in S2.

Curiously though, the grawl and risen stopped caring about the destroyed fort of the Priory-Vigil alliance, Concordia (at least, I’ve not seen those events in a long time). However, those stationed there still act like their structure isn’t in entire shambles. The head Vigil officer even acts like the place is brand shining new. Then again, he’s not the brightest of fellows.

TL;DR

They kept the permanently changing of maps with Season 2. And it still doesn’t work.

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

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Curiously though, the grawl and risen stopped caring about the destroyed fort of the Priory-Vigil alliance, Concordia (at least, I’ve not seen those events in a long time). However, those stationed there still act like their structure isn’t in entire shambles. The head Vigil officer even acts like the place is brand shining new. Then again, he’s not the brightest of fellows.

Nope. Saw that event not two hours ago. And to make things weirder, while some NPCs act like the vines never came, there’s also a new one working on repairs… for the last two years.

R.I.P., Old Man of Auld Red Wharf. Gone but never forgotten.

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Posted by: Vikkela.7261

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Did those human remains beneath Rata Novus have any story behind them?

e:

human remains? I missed this…

They lie on the bottom of that underground pond, I just thought it was strange they put remains and armour of 7 humanoids (skeleton size varies) there while not leaving a single Asuran body anywhere

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Posted by: bearshaman.3421

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human remains? I missed this…

On a different note, interesting that part 3 mentions 2 of the remaining dragons specifically (primordus and kralkatorrik) in terms of having information in the rata novan system on them. It’s like two possibilities for who’s next on the dragon hit list…

Also really curious what’s going on with that egg… Hope she can at least get to do scans on it…

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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Taimi scans the egg… the scans include some sort of heating and/or radiation…

The egg becomes hard boiled.

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Posted by: Jaken.6801

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Taimi scans the egg… the scans include some sort of heating and/or radiation…

The egg becomes hard boiled.

Microwaves should do the trick ^^
Though it is a crystal egg, which might do some refraction hre and here..

Hey, what if her scans are totaly bogus, because of the crystaline strukture, resulting in it just reflecting something from somwhere else.

Poor Taimi, that’s why hands on experience is often the more reliable source.

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

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Which is pretty much the principle behind X-ray crystallography – analysing the structure of the crystal according to how it causes photons to bounce around.

To those who think Scarlet hate means she’s succeeded as a villain:
People don’t hate Scarlet like Game of Thrones fans hate Joffrey.
They hate her the way Star Wars fans hate Jar Jar Binks.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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So a thought came to me yesterday:

What if there are no other asura there? What if Taimi has totally gone mad and is imagining all the asura?

In all honesty, that makes the most sense out of all possibilities. Consider:

  1. At the end of Buried Insight, Taimi asks everyone to not tell Rata Sum about her and Novus, because she wants to study the databanks and not get “Phlunted” again. In the open world, the only individuals at Rata Novus are Whisper agents, who also would want to study first before others get there.
  2. Other than the above two groups (Commander’s buddies and Whispers) the only groups to know of Novus is the Exalted and Nuhoch. Nuhoch see the place as abandoned and a place of death – they have no reasons to begin discussions about it; the Exalted also didn’t bother talking about it until it became relevant.

Given the above, the only way Rata Sumians knew of Novus is because either the biconics are kittens to Taimi – or more likely the Exalted talked to Peacemakers that acompanied the Pact. However, this hits a fault in that the Pact are still recovering most of their troops from the jungle (per articles and Jennah’s Interview).

Then add in (talked this part over with Aaron in-game for a bit – some points are his, some are mine):

  1. Asura gates in GW1’s time worked at a 1-to-1 always-on situation. This was why Vekk had to destroy a gate to shut it down, and why the destroyers could so easily take out the asura (they spread through surprise via the gate network).
  2. Asura gates in GW2’s time have been overhauled, requiring both sides to line up to each other (per Ghosts of Ascalon novel) in order to activate. In lore, most capital cities’ gates cycle through to the other capital gates (major exception being DR to BC) as part of this.
  3. Rata Novus’ gate seem to function differently entirely – the first gate turned on from only one end, this could just be explained as being like GW1’s but on a switch (makes sense), but the second gate leads to the cube in the PS and to the Command Center in open world indicating a change of destination is possible – to a degree. This makes Novus’ gates a bit of a mix – you only need tuning from one end, basically.

However, the question one must ask is: How do the Rata Sumians turn on the gate? Can the Sum gates and Novus gates interact with each other given the different design and functionalities? Probably not. Which means that they had to traverse the jungles – how could so many get through such hostile territories? And why would the Whispers agents let them through so soon?

However, there is one final point: the pictures in the blog.

Every one is taken in the decayed hive portion of Rata Novus – that second part of the mission; where the hero challenge is in the open world, to the north. Why is this important?

Taimi states that she’s managed to keep the dragon lab secret. How? How could she keep a giant kitten door with a dragon head engraved and glowing on it a secret when it’s not even 5 feet away from the other asura?

And there’s no way the other asura would bow and scrape knees to a kid when they can see there is very obviously something beyond the door when she goes into that room – since she didn’t lock it down!

Though there’s one final thing:

The gate on the far end – away from the dragon lab – was destroyed. The only gate in and out now… is in the dragon lab. Which means the Sumians had to enter through the dragon lab – which she somehow is keeping secret.

Unless there never were Sumians. Unless all that happened was that she imagined the defunct gate activating and a bunch of people waltzing through.

Even Caithe’s visits might have been hallucinations caused from sleep deprivations and solitude – anyone who’s read/seen the Shining know that prolonged isolation can make Jack a (not so) boring boy.

Small aside: Given the facts above, actual living asura from Rata Sum showing up in that spot makes little logical or continuity sense, as either it’s breaking lore by rewriting the rules of asura gate linking, or a bunch of carefree asura who pay no attention to warnings (powering up all the ley line stuff in Novus) somehow managed to traverse one of the most dangerous regions in Tyria with no apparent casualties.

And if they are real, then to Bobby Stein who’s been active on the lore forums a bit as of late, I demand to know how and why they came upon knowing and getting to Rata Novus! (I’ll give you til Wednesday evening before hyperbole ensues ;D )

Either way, it seems Taimi is finally following in the footsteps of her idol, Scarlet Briar. She’s either insane, or breaking all the lore around her.

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Posted by: Nero.8047

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  1. At the end of Bitter Harvest, Taimi asks everyone to not tell Rata Sum about her and Novus, because she wants to study the databanks and not get “Phlunted” again. In the open world, the only individuals at Rata Novus are Whisper agents, who also would want to study first before others get there.
  1. Other than the above two groups (Commander’s buddies and Whispers) the only groups to know of Novus is the Exalted and Nuhoch. Nuhoch see the place as abandoned and a place of death – they have no reasons to begin discussions about it; the Exalted also didn’t bother talking about it until it became relevant.
  • Didn’t Taimi at one point state that she learnt about the Novus Crew before? or at least read about it.

Taimi: Novus? Novus! Eureka! Do you know what this means? Do you? By Gadd, we’ve found it! Are they here now?
….
Taimi: The legendary lost city. What are we waiting for? We should have been there already!
Taimi: We could find data, magitech, or allies there that could help fight Mordremoth!

  • I don’t think a Legendary City is something she came up with on the spot.
  • P.S. Just read into it again and of course it’s logical for the groups you mentioned to be the only ones to know of the location of Rata Novus besides it existence. I’m just dumb. ^^

Even Caithe’s visits might have been hallucinations caused from sleep deprivations and solitude – anyone who’s read/seen the Shining know that prolonged isolation can make Jack a (not so) boring boy.

  • “All work and no rest put Taimi’s sanity to the test.” ? just kidding.

No offence to you in any way Konig, just some support.

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Posted by: Torolan.5816

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Putting my dimissive Asura tinfoil hat on here, when I think of Rata Novus, I think of three things:
*Ratus(Rata) is the name of rats in biology, so I think that everything with the name of Rata could be a rat city in some way. A Novum(Novus) is something new, so for me Rata Novus is simly the new Rat City.^^
I always thought of Asura as flappy eared smurfs, but the more I think about them, they may be the other side of the coin for Skritts.
-Rats like to dig into the earth as Asura and obviously Skritts also do.
-Skritts are curious like Asura.
-As Skritt, most Asura obviously do seek the company of other Asura. Skritt do it because they have a group mind, Asura do it to ruin the day of other Asuras and steal their shinies from them.

*The defense of Rata Novus might have failed the original Asura against a maybe bigger or harder group of Chak who were determined to wipe them out attacked the city. It could simply be a problem of assembling enough Chak to wipe out the city again at this point. Or a single Asura was of no interest for the chak, but a group of them will be.

*Asura have not much sense of decency or humility, so I agree with Konig that they would never have agreed to work for a child or leave a potential doomsday device unexperimented with. It is possible that Taimi keeps the best parts locked away from them(no humiliy and sense of decency again), maybe with the help of Caithe. I attribute this set of thought to basically all Asura, with the Inquest being just honest enough to say it outright.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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Shhh… it was 3 am. >.> Fixed.

  • Didn’t Taimi at one point state that she learnt about the Novus Crew before? or at least read about it.

-snips-

  • I don’t think a Legendary City is something she came up with on the spot.
  • P.S. Just read into it again and of course it’s logical for the groups you mentioned to be the only ones to know of the location of Rata Novus besides it existence. I’m just dumb. ^^

She learned of the legend of Rata Novus. In the same manner you and I learned about the legend of Atlantis. But neither of us know where it was meant to be located.

  • “All work and no rest put Taimi’s sanity to the test.” ? just kidding.

Sure, that works better. A 3 AM mind that’s been active all day isn’t the most creative.

Asura have not much sense of decency or humility, so I agree with Konig that they would never have agreed to work for a child or leave a potential doomsday device unexperimented with. It is possible that Taimi keeps the best parts locked away from them(no humiliy and sense of decency again), maybe with the help of Caithe. I attribute this set of thought to basically all Asura, with the Inquest being just honest enough to say it outright.

How could Taimi hide a very obvious door that’s five feet away from where every Sumian is set up?

How could Taimi hide the very room the Sumians walked through upon arrival (the dragon lab is where the still working gate is – unless through unexplained events she repaired the other one).

Hmmm?

(P.S. I agree that the asura are based off of rats and other small mammals – and that that’s where the rivalry between asura and skritt comes from. Though on Rata’s meaning, there’s a simpler one: Rata Sum is latin for “I (have) verified/ratified.”)

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Posted by: trub.1657

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I feel a disturbance in the area- let’s see- tries on a tin foil hat
Taimi’s got some real need of a head doctor.
She lost so much, and actually gained very little for such a tiny progeny.
Her big golem, and best friend she built- gone.
Her mobility, (and life due to a debilitating condition)- gone.
The changes and trauma she has experienced have come crashing down on her.
And…the chak may have developed mesmer powers and are making her think these are asurans wondering around and bumping her, when it is just chak- living beside her- watching, absorbing the ley-line fluxes as she does….
And- ‘Plant’ is a remnant of a piece of Marshal Treaherne, that flew alllll the way to Novus on a shear of ley line energy, and rooted there..in Taimi’s new lab…
And..the egg of Glint is very curious of this young Asuran girl..and felt her loneliness all the way in Tarir, and ‘created’ some companions for her.

rips off tin foil hat
That was painful!!

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Posted by: Torolan.5816

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Shhh… it was 3 am. >.> Fixed.

  • Didn’t Taimi at one point state that she learnt about the Novus Crew before? or at least read about it.

-snips-

  • I don’t think a Legendary City is something she came up with on the spot.
  • P.S. Just read into it again and of course it’s logical for the groups you mentioned to be the only ones to know of the location of Rata Novus besides it existence. I’m just dumb. ^^

She learned of the legend of Rata Novus. In the same manner you and I learned about the legend of Atlantis. But neither of us know where it was meant to be located.

  • “All work and no rest put Taimi’s sanity to the test.” ? just kidding.

Sure, that works better. A 3 AM mind that’s been active all day isn’t the most creative.

Asura have not much sense of decency or humility, so I agree with Konig that they would never have agreed to work for a child or leave a potential doomsday device unexperimented with. It is possible that Taimi keeps the best parts locked away from them(no humiliy and sense of decency again), maybe with the help of Caithe. I attribute this set of thought to basically all Asura, with the Inquest being just honest enough to say it outright.

How could Taimi hide a very obvious door that’s five feet away from where every Sumian is set up?

How could Taimi hide the very room the Sumians walked through upon arrival (the dragon lab is where the still working gate is – unless through unexplained events she repaired the other one).

Hmmm?

(P.S. I agree that the asura are based off of rats and other small mammals – and that that’s where the rivalry between asura and skritt comes from. Though on Rata’s meaning, there’s a simpler one: Rata Sum is latin for “I (have) verified/ratified.”)

Maybe, and that is a big maybe, the other Asura did not come into Rata Novus by the portal? The battle for the tangled depths is on, maybe they walked through the front door through the tunnels like we basically did in the story if memory does not fail me here?
And regarding the door that is in plain sight, Taimi is supposed to be a genius that is probably able to keep the door locked with a hidden device from the other Asura for the time being. Her supervisor is obviously not as brilliant as she is and more of a politician than a researcher as he is constantly surprised by her ideas and concepts and made to look like a fool.

And your latin explanation makes more sense than mine, but it will always be the new rat city for me.^^

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Posted by: Donari.5237

Donari.5237

If “Wait, what was that? Hmmm…if I didn’t know better, I’d say it sounded like the gate powering up. Curious.” at the end of Part One followed by “Word of Rata Novus’s discovery must have hit Rata Sum. Asura are pouring in like migrating dolyaks” at the start of Part Two doesn’t mean the Sumians came via the gate, then it’s pretty poor writing as the connection is very strongly implied and not negated by any further commentary on the gate issue being a separate concern.

Which is my run on sentence convoluted way of saying I read it as absolutely they came through the gate, probably the one in the control center. It was the gate in the telescope/dragon lab entry room that fell apart. Nothing says the one in the control center couldn’t have been retuned to connect to Rata Sum after its hook to the lab area was wrecked.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

Maybe, and that is a big maybe, the other Asura did not come into Rata Novus by the portal? The battle for the tangled depths is on, maybe they walked through the front door through the tunnels like we basically did in the story if memory does not fail me here?

Blog post outright has Taimi note the asura gate turned on – which left us in suspense for part two, which was “Sumians are here! The Sumians are here! GOSH DARN IT WINDALL!

Further, going through the front door I brought up, since technically those asura gates only link to other Rata Novus stuff.

And regarding the door that is in plain sight, Taimi is supposed to be a genius that is probably able to keep the door locked with a hidden device from the other Asura for the time being.

There is no way what is clearly over a dozen asura in the picture would not be able to figure out how to get in that room if they can even glimpse there’s something inside – and knowing Taimi is going in and out is very clearly giving it away.

The only way she could have kept it hidden would be if they were in Rata Novus proper – far far away from the dragon lab. But the images show the room outside the dragon lab with the giant telescope thing.

Her supervisor is obviously not as brilliant as she is and more of a politician than a researcher as he is constantly surprised by her ideas and concepts and made to look like a fool.

Her supervisor? Who the heck are you talking about?

The closest thing to a supervisor Taimi has is her charge, Zojja. Far from idiotic or a politician and not surprised by her or made a fool.

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.

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Posted by: Jaken.6801

Jaken.6801

The closest thing to a supervisor Taimi has is her charge, Zojja. Far from idiotic or a politician and not surprised by her or made a fool.

And currently in need of recovery time.

Her is just one problem with the delirium theory: *We can’t take anything serious.’

None of her mad ramblings have to mean anything and thus, any information we get out of these notes can be her halucinating.
Caith could be another fern.
Information about ED XY could be far less important as she thinks, etc.

We need some explanation to these story inconsitencies to have it all make sense.
Which gate has opened?
How did the Summerians get the information (i doubt the whispers share as easy and any other Asura, be it priory or vigil would rather use the opportunity to study themselves, than sharing)?

Etc…

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Posted by: Torolan.5816

Torolan.5816

Councelor Phlunt tried to take away control from her of her inventions all the time in ls2. While he is not her supervisor in a sense of a boss/apprentice relationship, he surely has a close eye on her from that point on.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

Councelor Phlunt tried to take away control from her of her inventions all the time in ls2. While he is not her supervisor in a sense of a boss/apprentice relationship, he surely has a close eye on her from that point on.

Not really. It’s stated in various dialogues that everyone knows Phlunt “stole” the device patent from Taimi. And there has been zero dialogue indicating that he has the slightest care in the world about Taimi’s activities.

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.