On Zhaitan's corruption in the Mire Sea
Maybe I’m forgetting something completely obvious because it’s late, but atm I can’t recall any other Risen who created more Risen passively by just existing and being a source of dragon corruption.
Read Edge of Destiny and Sea of Sorrows. Or re-read them. People who fall in battle amongst a horde of risen – or near a champion – are turned into risen almost instantly. Said instant change goes away with the champion’s death.
There’s also the vases infused with Zhaitan’s power in Ossuary of the Unquiet Dead, but I’d classify that as something different.
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Hrm, my concern was more about the source-thing Konig.
We’ve got Fort Trinity where the dead awaken instantly after dying as other example too, I know. But that’s a case where a) there are hordes of Risen already b) they kill the pact members whose bodies /then/ get corrupted.
In the Mire Sea there’s neither hordes nor a champion. It’s just a corruption that kills anything and brings them back as Risen instantly, which is supposedly what happened to the krait. And this corruption threatened the Deeps before Nymfassa was made a champion, so that leads to the question how can she be the source then?
I wouldn’t worry too much. Let’s paraphrase him again and say “there is a nasty corrupt monster at the top of the tower”.
I think all those risen krait count as a “horde”. I don’t think the waters brought them back “instantly” and one can argue that Nimfassa became a champion given her intelligence level (the higher ranked the minion, the smarter it is – Nimfassa could more or less be on par to those directly under champions – comparing to Sea of Sorrows SPOILERS, she’d be on par to the first mate and norn brother who’s names I don’t recall atm).
I don’t think that this specific corruption threatened the krait. Rather, I think it’s more of a general “the Blue Orb prevented any kind of (Zhaitan’s) corruption and made existing risen a bit weaker.” The removal just allowed the risen and by extension corruption to invade.
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What I’d imagine happened here was something of a self-reinforcing cycle.
The orb was essentially keeping the corruption at bay – we still don’t really know exactly how, but we do know that it prevents corpses rising again as Risen. Losing the orb turned the tide – perhaps they were simply overwhelmed when the bodies of their dead (both sacrifices and their own) started rising and attacking them. As more Risen entered or arose in the area (possibly including a champion that was then redeployed elsewhere), the corruption increased, making things even worse for the krait, leading to more Risen, and so on until there were no loving krait left.
When Nymfassa died, she was made into the new champion, and the full effect of the corruption we see was linked to her.
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and so on until there were no loving krait left.
I don’t think that’d take very long.
Krait aren’t really known for being loving.
Funny typo considering the upcoming holiday, btw.
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Oh, I don’t know. For all we know, like rakshasa in Indian mythology, krait could be exceptionally tender and romantic among one another when not busy enslaving and sacrificing the inferior races.
To those who think Scarlet hate means she’s succeeded as a villain:
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They hate her the way Star Wars fans hate Jar Jar Binks.
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Yeah champ isn’t the right word but you know what I mean. Self-aware named minion type A, cough. P:
Aaaand Trahearne states that he has seen this peculiar form of corruption before and it’s said in the mission that it is more toxic and deadly than any blade. Reminder, if you fall into the water it gives you a debuff (akin to lava and the toxic spores one when you approached the tower) that quickly kills you.
After Trahearne says that he remembers this corruption the Player wonders if that’s what happened to the krait to which Trahearne replies that they probably rose as fresh undead again. Which is exactly what we see.
It’s a corruption in form of poison that kills instantly and causes Risen.
Tho I can see draxynnic’s explanation playing into that (getting overwhelmed by their own sacrifices and the corruption being transferred) as well. Which would indeed mean that this kind of corruption is ‘mobile’.
Also, another minor fun thing to consider about that mission. Nymfassa’s dying words are “Prophets forgive me.” Nothing too big, but I found it amusing that she begged her prophets for forgiveness before dying although she’s been shouting about Zhaitan earlier. Maybe her mind was twisted into believing the krait prophets work with Zhaitan. Just found it interesting because we don’t really see the Risen priests doing that. :p
Also, another minor fun thing to consider about that mission. Nymfassa’s dying words are “Prophets forgive me.” Nothing too big, but I found it amusing that she begged her prophets for forgiveness before dying although she’s been shouting about Zhaitan earlier. Maybe her mind was twisted into believing the krait prophets work with Zhaitan. Just found it interesting because we don’t really see the Risen priests doing that. :p
Huh. I don’t remember that. Was it in a red box?
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Huh. I don’t remember that. Was it in a red box?
Yeah it was a red box.
Huh. I don’t remember that. Was it in a red box?
Yeah it was a red box.
Probably just an oversight then- those boxes are only used for combat-triggered one-liners, which due to their sporadic nature never have anything to do with the specifics of what’s going on around them. My guess would be that when ToN introduced that kind of voiceacting to the krait, it got applied to both versions of Nymfassa.
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Huh. I don’t remember that. Was it in a red box?
Yeah it was a red box.
Probably just an oversight then- those boxes are only used for combat-triggered one-liners, which due to their sporadic nature never have anything to do with the specifics of what’s going on around them. My guess would be that when ToN introduced that kind of voiceacting to the krait, it got applied to both versions of Nymfassa.
That’s very possible. On the other hand it was definitely a female krait voice that sounded a lot like hers. Hm, I’d have to go back and check whether ToN-lines updated the lines of other krait because I think a couple are Toxic-Alliance exclusive (“Others will avenge me”, “Worthless vermin”, “Strike together” are some I don’t think I’ve heard normal krait shout but I’m gonna beat up a dozen snakes and assure myself now).