Guild Wars 2

Bring the Mursaat back in full-force. Make Lazarus asexual or something.

The idea of the race was really interesting, and the similar races we have in GW2 I just find to be lesser.

I think it would be a top notch race to introduce. Forget all these karka/chak designs. I remember the karka in LS1, and they quickly became uninteresting.

Delve into their lore and history slightly, beyond that of the bloodstone etc.

I haven’t heard anything as cool in GW2 as a selfish and incredibly powerful spellcaster race that forsook the other races to keep their magic to themselves, hiding from vision and delaying fate.

Honestly the lore from GW1 around the bloodstones, tome of rubicon etc, was really interesting fantasy. Not to say that Glint’s legacy isn’t, but the style of lore and storytelling has changed a lot.

With puppy eyesPleeeaaaaaaaaaaaaase?

Maybe the mursaat have been hiding and rebuilding, perhaps the next elder dragon threatens their race also, and they reveal themselves in full-force and assault some magical aspect, finally playing a role in the world so that the other races can finish the job. Maybe they realise they cannot defeat the dragon without help. Surely they must have some incredible knowledge of such lore and historic dragon-related events, given their characteristics.

I hate to disappoint you but I thought GW1 made it pretty clear the mursaat were wiped out and only Lazarus was left.

I’d be happy to be proven wrong but I’d be very surprised to see them in GW2, especially as a major race.

It was only Lazarus left ‘that we know of’. Easy to get around

Like the start says, could even make him master asexual reproduction haha.
There are plenty of ways to bring the race back.

I’m just saying that they should. I think it’s the most interesting race they’ve created.

Danikat.8537:

I hate to disappoint you but I thought GW1 made it pretty clear the mursaat were wiped out and only Lazarus was left.

I’d be happy to be proven wrong but I’d be very surprised to see them in GW2, especially as a major race.

To be fair Lazarus was the last we heard of until War in Kryta, which had a handful of new Mursaat… which were also killed in the battle for Lion’s Arch. Still this could hint at more of them having escaped the Titan attack. Slim chance though.

I think there’s plenty of reason for Mursaat to be alive somewhere. It’s like the whole Children of the Forest in Game of Thrones. That was all of them? Really? Wouldn’t make a whole lot of sense for an incredibly knowledgable and powerful race to die out like that.

The seers could understandbly be wiped out – at the hands of the more powerful Mursaat.

As far as I am aware, aside from Dragons or spectral defences made from Seers (long lost), nothing could really stop the Mursaat. Seems odd that the Seers had such defence but were wiped out, yet (we) from the Flameseeker prophecies ‘wiped’ them out only with sub-par magic and spectral defence.

Animism.9803:

The seers could understandbly be wiped out – at the hands of the more powerful Mursaat.

The mursaat could understandbly be wiped out – at the hands of the more powerful Titans.

It’s not that hard…

While the mursaat had developed a powerful defense and offense against the Elder Dragons and their minions, this powerful weapon was ultimately useless against the titans (and eidolons) and presumably so was their defense (slipping partway into the Mists), as both dealt directly with the nature of the titans (and eidolons).

At the end of GW1, the titans hunted down what mursaat remained after we fought through hundreds of them. Presumably we killed the majority of the mursaat, but Khilbron still sent the titans to finish the job, sending them across the known world.

And keep in mind that the reason the seers were wiped out was because their spectral defense came too late in the war. By the time they had developed it, the race was already mostly gone. Presumably, them creating that spectral defense is what spared the lives of the few remaining seers (and presumably allowed them to then create the Bloodstone).

The Chosen, however, had this and the ability to see the mursaat even when they hid (Gift of True Sight via Ascension). So both the mursaat’s weapon and defense were useless against us in GW1 – the entire purpose of Ascending and finding that Seer in the game, in fact. The titans had both of these abilities naturally, being tormented souls thus already part of the overlapping spirit realm and thus constantly feeling spectral agony of their own.

So it isn’t surprising or odd in the least that the chosen and titans wiped out most of the mursaat.

I felt like the Mursaat were overdone in GW1. And at no fault of Anet’s story telling. The players themselves just seemed to LOVE sticking mursaat into stories where they really didn’t need to be for the sake of some theory or another. I never quite saw the obsession. They were kinda neat I guess, but come on. Don’t Deadpool the Mursaat (i.e stick them in every single story and thought to the point where we get sick of seeing them).

Squee.7829:

I felt like the Mursaat were overdone in GW1. And at no fault of Anet’s story telling. The players themselves just seemed to LOVE sticking mursaat into stories where they really didn’t need to be for the sake of some theory or another. I never quite saw the obsession. They were kinda neat I guess, but come on. Don’t Deadpool the Mursaat (i.e stick them in every single story and thought to the point where we get sick of seeing them).

The Mursaat appeared in exactly three storylines. The main campaign of Prophecies, which introduced them, the quest about Lazarus the Dire, which was put in as a potential lead into Guild Wars 2 (which is finally paying off) and some appeared in the War in Kryta.
In the first story they did technically not need to be, but no player demanded it either, they just were and became popular. The second needs a Mursaat because that is all the quest is about. Now I grant you that they did not need to be in the War in Kryta storywise, but it did make the White Mantle even more of a threat and gave the heroes an additional obstacle to overcome, so their appearance is entirely justified. So how are three stories, which all include the Mursaat in a very justified and reasonable way, “Deadpooling” them?

BuddhaKeks.4857:

Squee.7829:

I felt like the Mursaat were overdone in GW1. And at no fault of Anet’s story telling. The players themselves just seemed to LOVE sticking mursaat into stories where they really didn’t need to be for the sake of some theory or another. I never quite saw the obsession. They were kinda neat I guess, but come on. Don’t Deadpool the Mursaat (i.e stick them in every single story and thought to the point where we get sick of seeing them).

The Mursaat appeared in exactly three storylines. The main campaign of Prophecies, which introduced them, the quest about Lazarus the Dire, which was put in as a potential lead into Guild Wars 2 (which is finally paying off) and some appeared in the War in Kryta.
In the first story they did technically not need to be, but no player demanded it either, they just were and became popular. The second needs a Mursaat because that is all the quest is about. Now I grant you that they did not need to be in the War in Kryta storywise, but it did make the White Mantle even more of a threat and gave the heroes an additional obstacle to overcome, so their appearance is entirely justified. So how are three stories, which all include the Mursaat in a very justified and reasonable way, “Deadpooling” them?

I don’t think that’s what Squee meant since Squee specifically said the following:

The players themselves just seemed to LOVE sticking mursaat into stories where they really didn’t need to be for the sake of some theory or another.

In other words, Mursaat kept appearing in theorycrafting, not in the game.

It is exactly as Diovid said. Anet did just fine with the Mursaat. It’s the players linking every unsolved mystery to them that was out of hand.

The Mursaat coming back is looking more and more like a possibility with the White Mantle resurgence and now this teaser released today.

The teaser shows a stone construct very obviously being powered by a bloodstone shard (and ley-line energy…which seems to be part of the bloodstone…begin speculating).

Could very well be a modified Jade Construct.

https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Jade_construct

BuddhaKeks.4857:

-snip-

Pretty sure what he was talking about was the player theories – probably specifically those by Quintus Antonius who had mursaat involved with literally every single theory he ever made – to the point where he claimed mursaat were actually ascended humans, that Lord Ordran was a mursaat, and that mursaat were, effectively, behind every plot in the game.

Tayledras.1604:

The Mursaat coming back is looking more and more like a possibility with the White Mantle resurgence and now this teaser released today.

The teaser shows a stone construct very obviously being powered by a bloodstone shard (and ley-line energy…which seems to be part of the bloodstone…begin speculating).

Could very well be a modified Jade Construct.

https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Jade_construct

First thought was “Barradin Statue rehash” then I saw the base of the Keep Construct (and the name) and thought “Yeah, modified Jade Construct”.

Didn’t see the bloodstone/ley line magic though. Where’d you see that?

Edit: Okay, saw purple-red crystals embedded in it and the golden line of magic as it explodes.

Not sure if those crystals were Bloodstone Shards though – they’re much duller in color, and more reminiscent of the purple crystals of the jade constructs in GW1. I only saw the golden “ley line” line as it exploded, so maybe that was just magic being released as it died?

Squee.7829:

It is exactly as Diovid said. Anet did just fine with the Mursaat. It’s the players linking every unsolved mystery to them that was out of hand.

In that case, my apologies.

Tayledras.1604:

The teaser shows a stone construct very obviously being powered by a bloodstone shard (and ley-line energy…which seems to be part of the bloodstone…begin speculating).

That’s not just any stone construct, though. It’s a stone construct statue of Confessor Isaiah.

I’m not so sure that’s Isaiah. It’s wearing a confessor’kitten for sure, but Dorian also had that hat, and it wouldn’t be far fetched to believe others did too.

So it could be Isaiah, Dorian, a post-Isaiah confessor, the never-seen-in-game Schessler a confessor that came to be after Isaiah (such as the one who established the place), or even an “inaccurate” statue of Saul D’Alessio.

“confessor’kitten”

Confessor’s -Silly dilly censoring – hat.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

BuddhaKeks.4857:

-snip-

Pretty sure what he was talking about was the player theories – probably specifically those by Quintus Antonius who had mursaat involved with literally every single theory he ever made – to the point where he claimed mursaat were actually ascended humans, that Lord Ordran was a mursaat, and that mursaat were, effectively, behind every plot in the game.

Tayledras.1604:

The Mursaat coming back is looking more and more like a possibility with the White Mantle resurgence and now this teaser released today.

The teaser shows a stone construct very obviously being powered by a bloodstone shard (and ley-line energy…which seems to be part of the bloodstone…begin speculating).

Could very well be a modified Jade Construct.

https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Jade_construct

First thought was “Barradin Statue rehash” then I saw the base of the Keep Construct (and the name) and thought “Yeah, modified Jade Construct”.

Didn’t see the bloodstone/ley line magic though. Where’d you see that?

Edit: Okay, saw purple-red crystals embedded in it and the golden line of magic as it explodes.

Not sure if those crystals were Bloodstone Shards though – they’re much duller in color, and more reminiscent of the purple crystals of the jade constructs in GW1. I only saw the golden “ley line” line as it exploded, so maybe that was just magic being released as it died?

Sorry I probably could have been clearer…to see the ley line magic you have to do some serious pausing and frame analyzing at the 12 second mark. If you blow it up and go frame by frame it looks and behaves just like the energy around the ley-line confluences before sucking back into the bloodstone (or as you suggest the crystals of a jade construct).

There’s also those statues.