Guild Wars 2

Some interesting I noticed after you killed Mordremoth is that if you talk to Laranthir during the event to defeat the Mouth of Mordremoth a new dialogue will appear and he will tell us that even though Mordremoth is dead his body still remains active to continue his hunger for magic.

Either being a dialogue to explain why we are fighting the Mouth of Mordremoth after his death or intentional to explain why the event constantly repeats itself this comes into question is how much dangerous Mordy’s body is since it still continues to live and attempt to consume magic even after Mordremoth is dead due to being a manifestation of Mordremoth’s Hunger.

I wonder if the body of Mordremoth became the Dragon’s Champion after we kill the the tree dragon in Season 2? That would explain how it keeps coming back similarly to Teqatl

Mouth of Mordremoth is Mordremoth, Unbent. Not a champion.

Tequatl came back because he was never killed – it just retreated. Unlike the Mouth.

In lore, the idea is that Mordremoth could regrow its body from its corruption. The entire point of delving into Mordremoth’s connection to the Dream is because the only other way to kill Mordremoth is by destroying all corruption – which due to how fast it spreads is nigh impossible.

As for the dialogue. In all honesty, it makes no sense lore wise so I’ve just been taking it as an unnecessary attempt to explain its repeating nature.

But one theory I made while discussing this with another on reddit is comparing Mordremoth to Ultron in the recent Avengers movie. In it, by connecting to the internet Ultron is capable of controlling multiple bodies – to defeat him, they had to first disconnect him and then destroy every machine body he was already connected to.

Fighting Mordremoth in the Dream could have just been a case of disconnecting him to the Dream, thus isolating his mind in the various bodies he was in possession of – Trahearne and his own (perhaps others?). Thus, Laranthir is wrong due to a misunderstanding on the Pact Commander’s part thinking they killed Mordremoth, and the body of Mordremoth had to be killed ‘one more time’ afterwards.

Well the best way I can describe things is that Mordy’s body is basically on Auto-pilot now that the pilot, Mordremoth’s mind, is gone.

From what we are told in the main story mordremoth’s true form is his mind and he does not have a actual physical form. Think of Mordy as more of a Spirit rather than a actual physical being. Mordy may have possessed the Mouth of Mordremoth as a body but it was nothing more than a physical host for him to interact with the physical world.

This also comes into why Mordy would still be alive as long he can obtain a physical host when he tried to take over Trehearne’s body. Sending his mind into the weakened state may have forced him out of the Mouth of Mordremoth due to may be not being able to control it in his current weakened state and forced him into a weaker host being Trehearne. However, since Trehearne died with what remained of Mordremoth’s actual self he is dead for good.

Basically Mordremoth is the Elder Dragon of Mind while the beastial Mouth of Mordremoth or should I call it the Maguuma Jungle is the Elder Dragon of Plants.

The Maguuma Jungle consumes Magic yet needs Mordremoth to retain it due to being a beast and a full fledged force of nature unlike the other Elder Dragons.

By destroying the Elder Dragon of Mind we left the magic consumed by the Elder Dragon of Plants nowhere to go thus releasing it back into Tyria to be consumed by 4 sources(one being Glint’s Egg).

Without Mordremoth the Maguuma Jungle is no threat to the world but a mere nuisance(aside from preventing the remnants of the Pact and Nightmare Court from securing Dragon’s Stand). His minions are either animals or free to become Sylvari again.

We have removed the cycle that Mordremoth put into place in the Maguuma Jungle(the one that has the jungle alternate between lush jungle and inhospitable desert).

Mordremoth is NOT the Maguuma Jungle.

Just because they call Mordremoth the jungle dragon or compare him to bring a jingle does not make him the Maguuma. He is basically making a new jungle, one mostly of vines, that is overriding the old jungle.

It’s a bit more accurate to call Mordremoth a gargantuan thicket than a jungle.

Mordremoth does have a physical body. If you go to the very bottom of Verdant Brink those writhing vines there are part of Mordremoth.

The Mouth of Mordremoth is both Mordremoth and only a part of Mordremoth in that its acting like a traditional body to guard it’s “heart”. But if the Mouth is pruned I’m sure Mordremoth could regrow another. My guess though is that it takes considerable effort/resources to build/control these powerful avatars, and that could be why we only see one.

But despite all that I think canonically we only kill the Mouth once. We know the fight happens during the end of the HoT instanced story, and Mordremoth’s attention split between those two battles is what tipped the scales against the elder dragon. Laranthir’s dialogue could either be because he is unaware of the recent actions of the Pact Commander, or like someone else mentioned it could be because we killed the ego, but the id is still alive.

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Mordremoth does have a physical body. If you go to the very bottom of Verdant Brink those writhing vines there are part of Mordremoth.

The Mouth of Mordremoth is both Mordremoth and only a part of Mordremoth in that its acting like a traditional body to guard it’s “heart”. But if the Mouth is pruned I’m sure Mordremoth could regrow another. My guess though is that it takes considerable effort/resources to build/control these powerful avatars, and that could be why we only see one.

But despite all that I think canonically we only kill the Mouth once. We know the fight happens during the end of the HoT instanced story, and Mordremoth’s attention split between those two battles is what tipped the scales against the elder dragon. Laranthir’s dialogue could either be because he is unaware of the recent actions of the Pact Commander, or like someone else mentioned it could be because we killed the ego, but the id is still alive.

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