Guild Wars 2

So, Scarlet’s in the Thaumonova Reactor, being her usual annoying, dabbling in every single thing there is, self. She talks about discovering the magical network going across the planet (ley-lines) so the disaster wasn’t a complete waste. I don’t mind a little extra knowledge, though to be fair, we kind of knew all that already – I just don’t want any more of Scarlet’s constant presence.

here’s the conversation btw.

Scarlet is a bad charachter, Anet. She is annoying, out of place and just plain old boring. People don’t want to fight the same villain over and over again, we want to experience new things. For the love of god, get rid of this disastrously bad character. Signed.

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Dear Anet, abandon Scarlet please. She’s not only poorly written and a marysue, but she’s also increasingly annoying. Do away with her and retcon her out of GW2. You are seriously writing a bad character that’s heavily compromising the integrity of your lore.

Mikhail.4961:

So, Scarlet’s in the Thaumonova Reactor, being her usual annoying, dabbling in every single thing there is, self. She talks about discovering the magical network going across the planet (ley-lines) so the disaster wasn’t a complete waste. I don’t mind a little extra knowledge, though to be fair, we kind of knew all that already – I just don’t want any more of Scarlet’s constant presence.

here’s the conversation btw.

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Reactor approaching critical, panicked evacuation, general mayhem and hysteria… Yep, I’d say my work is here is done.
Sorry about all the death, and for the portal pandemonium.
I told the Inquest chaos energy was a misnomer. Mind you, dragon energy is tricky, so I can see how they flubbed it.
At least they helped identify the network of magical channels that crisscrossed the globe. That was a breakthrough.
Now we know how NOT to do this kind of research right on an intersection of those channels. Live and learn, right?
That’s progress. Hooray for progress! Ooh, but it’s getting a bit too deadly in here for me. ‘Bye now!

They put ley-lines into GW2? Wow.

Anyone else think this game is turning into the amalgamated fantasy soup of dozens of other games out there? It’s like…the purgatory of fantasy tropes. :/

Rangersix.1754:

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Scarlet blew up the reactor

Dear Anet, abandon Scarlet please. She’s not only poorly written and a marysue, but she’s also increasingly annoying. Do away with her and retcon her out of GW2. You are seriously writing a bad character that’s heavily compromising the integrity of your lore.

This was apparent way back in August. It helps show her connection to the steam creatures and the portals. People suspected way back then that she was present at the explosion.

Mikhail.4961:

So, Scarlet’s in the Thaumonova Reactor, being her usual annoying, dabbling in every single thing there is, self. She talks about discovering the magical network going across the planet (ley-lines) so the disaster wasn’t a complete waste. I don’t mind a little extra knowledge, though to be fair, we kind of knew all that already – I just don’t want any more of Scarlet’s constant presence.

here’s the conversation btw.

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Reactor approaching critical, panicked evacuation, general mayhem and hysteria… Yep, I’d say my work is here is done.
Sorry about all the death, and for the portal pandemonium.
I told the Inquest chaos energy was a misnomer. Mind you, dragon energy is tricky, so I can see how they flubbed it.
At least they helped identify the network of magical channels that crisscrossed the globe. That was a breakthrough.
Now we know how NOT to do this kind of research right on an intersection of those channels. Live and learn, right?
That’s progress. Hooray for progress! Ooh, but it’s getting a bit too deadly in here for me. ‘Bye now!

I remember the subject of ley lines being mentioned previously, but I can’t remember where. Does anyone know where this came from?

It came from an interview with Angel McCoy. She made mention of ley-lines.

I don’t see how this ties Scarlet to the steam creatures, btw DarcShriek.

Anyways, where is the source for these dialogue lines? Given how much BS people toss on the forums acting like it’s canon, I’ve grown cautious of believing anything on the forums that don’t quote a source.

Where did Mikhail find the dialogues and where did Rangersix “heard the following”?

That’s in game, in the Thaumanova Reactor fractal story mode, I just did it and can confirm what they said, I don’t have screens to prove it though.

Yeah, I realized after posting. I’m an idiot who thought the update was released on the 29th, not 26th. I don’t know why I thought the 29th was Tuesday and not, y’know, today. But hey, we are all idiots in our own way.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

It came from an interview with Angel McCoy. She made mention of ley-lines.

I don’t see how this ties Scarlet to the steam creatures, btw DarcShriek.

Anyways, where is the source for these dialogue lines? Given how much BS people toss on the forums acting like it’s canon, I’ve grown cautious of believing anything on the forums that don’t quote a source.

Where did Mikhail find the dialogues and where did Rangersix “heard the following”?

The Steam Minotaur and the portal at Thaumanova. It’s the same type of portal that Scarlet uses. It’s also the earliest place in the game that steam creatures appear.

@Konig it’s in the Thaumanova Reactor story mode, right before the final boss up on the platforms. I only wrote it down instead of screening since I wanted it up here first and foremost.

Edit: saw your post, nvm this^^

@DarcShriek: We’ve seen her using portals that look like the Steam Portals. Unless she’s using the same exact portal this adds nothing to what was known.

Anyways, got to go for the time being, will run through the new story mode of Fractals later.

Irony of ironies, going all the way back to the first post:

Now the players are Scarlet’s newest servants – you can head into the fractals and do her bidding!

Konig Des Todes.2086:

@DarcShriek: We’ve seen her using portals that look like the Steam Portals. Unless she’s using the same exact portal this adds nothing to what was known.

Anyways, got to go for the time being, will run through the new story mode of Fractals later.

I look forward to your new insights. There are three points of confusion for me.
1.) Why didn’t what she saw in her vision show her the ley lines?
2.) Did she cause the explosion or was she just there for it? Her dialog implies both.
3.) Was she there naturally, or did she travel back in time to get there?

DarcShriek.5829:

Konig Des Todes.2086:

@DarcShriek: We’ve seen her using portals that look like the Steam Portals. Unless she’s using the same exact portal this adds nothing to what was known.

Anyways, got to go for the time being, will run through the new story mode of Fractals later.

I look forward to your new insights. There are three points of confusion for me.
1.) Why didn’t what she saw in her vision show her the ley lines?
2.) Did she cause the explosion or was she just there for it? Her dialog implies both.
3.) Was she there naturally, or did she travel back in time to get there?

I can hardly answer these as well as Konig, but…

1) I don’t believe she actually saw much importance in her vision, it was just her going insane from sensory deprivation (something that totally can happen), I mean seriously, she thinks she saw the Eternal Alchemy which is an idea, not a thing.

2) I don’t know if she personally caused the explosion, i have a feeling though she played a roll in it, the whole fractal seemed like you were an Inquest team that was there to blow up the reactor, i mean you were an inquest crew who blew a whole in the wall after all.

3) i have a feeling she was there naturally, she wouldn’t (i hope so at least) have access to fractal technology, so i have a feeling we were just witnessing a past event she was at, i mean Dessa and Kiel were both there guarding the equipment so there was no tampering without us learning about it. Unless Kiel is in league with scarlet (unlikely).

Durzlla.6295:

3) i have a feeling she was there naturally, she wouldn’t (i hope so at least) have access to fractal technology, so i have a feeling we were just witnessing a past event she was at, i mean Dessa and Kiel were both there guarding the equipment so there was no tampering without us learning about it. Unless Kiel is in league with scarlet (unlikely).

The Thaumanova fractal isn’t just the story instance but also appears in the normal fractal rotation. Every time you get that fractal, Scarlet appears, which strongly suggests that she is part of that “history” and was physically there when the reactor exploded. If she had just found a way to enter the fractals like the consortium did and was just there to whitness the explosion, there’d be no logical explanation for her re-appearance during successive runs.

DarcShriek.5829:

I look forward to your new insights. There are three points of confusion for me.
1.) Why didn’t what she saw in her vision show her the ley lines?
2.) Did she cause the explosion or was she just there for it? Her dialog implies both.
3.) Was she there naturally, or did she travel back in time to get there?

Can’t say for the first question, but if you take a right upon entering the reactor area, there are two Inquest whose conversation states things only started going poorly after the “special consultant” arrived. That would imply she was the cause, and since time travel, to our current knowledge, is a secret held only by the stalwart members of A.R.E.N.A., that would mean that she was there “naturally”.

I have just done the fractal and I am completely AMAZED that people are so hung up about Scarlet. She is so minor in the fractal!

But anyways, to Darc’s three questions:

1) The reactor explosion could have been prior to her sensory deprivation device. Also keep in mind that she “didn’t see what she thought she saw” and we were told that she was put in a sensory deprivation device. This means that she might not have actually seen the Eternal Alchemy and thus wouldn’t know everything.
2) Her dialogue implies that she at least didn’t do anything to stop it.
3) Nothing about her implies she can time travel. She was part of the Inquest, so it isn’t doubtful that she would be a special consultant while part of the Inquest.

We must also remember there’s a mysterious someone duped Zinn into creating R.O.X., N.O.X., and P.O.X all for the sake of attacking Tyria’s leaders…

It goes without saying it’s likely the same person…..

They probably come up with the time traveling villain behind the Mortal threats before Guild Wars 2 was released and only developed her/him into Scarlet(we really should have ignored Mister _Zinn_competent’s gender pronouns) near the creation of the Living World.

I have just done the fractal and I am completely AMAZED that people are so hung up about Scarlet. She is so minor in the fractal!

True, she’s there for less than a minute… but I think why so many, myself included, react to it is that here she is yet again. It’s like ANet can’t make any new (or introduce old mysteries) without using this one character that isn’t even all that interesting. So she’s smart and crazy? Good for her. Still a porrly handled and written character.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

3) Nothing about her implies she can time travel. She was part of the Inquest, so it isn’t doubtful that she would be a special consultant while part of the Inquest.

No, Ceara was part of the Inquest. Despite there being no non-Asuran Inquest members in the actual game.

And Inquest member Ceara wasn’t insane, so far as we know. Maybe SB was also a member, but since the Inquest are not the Sith, I would imagine that losing your mind and wasting your boss for kicks would be the sort of thing that could result in censure or termination of membership privileges.

Edit: Though it seems likely that some of them were still willing to work with her in setting up the Aetherblades.

Edit to the Edit: The quoted lines earlier in the thread sound like she is addressing the players as players, rather than as Inquest personnel (otherwise, why say “the Inquest” instead of “you”?). Is it bad writing, or does her fractal self actually perceive that she is in a fractal rather than reality?

perilisk.1874:

Konig Des Todes.2086:

3) Nothing about her implies she can time travel. She was part of the Inquest, so it isn’t doubtful that she would be a special consultant while part of the Inquest.

No, Ceara was part of the Inquest. Despite there being no non-Asuran Inquest members in the actual game.

And Inquest member Ceara wasn’t insane, so far as we know. Maybe SB was also a member, but since the Inquest are not the Sith, I would imagine that losing your mind and wasting your boss for kicks would be the sort of thing that could result in censure or termination of membership privileges.

Edit: Though it seems likely that some of them were still willing to work with her in setting up the Aetherblades.

Edit to the Edit: The quoted lines earlier in the thread sound like she is addressing the players as players, rather than as Inquest personnel (otherwise, why say “the Inquest” instead of “you”?). Is it bad writing, or does her fractal self actually perceive that she is in a fractal rather than reality?

ACTUALLY!! During the Asura Weather Ball personal story you find out that the inquest are actually willing to allow Sylvari to join, and help out, with their inquesty things, however these Sylvari do NOT have the authority of an actual Asura inquest member and they tend to go “missing” (obviously very expendable servants, just like scarlet was).

This is found out by talking with NPCs during 2-3 of the personal story missions two of which are sylvari, the other is an asura.

I rather agree with perilisk on this one. There’s hardly anything special about a consultant that’s just one more member of a faceless organization.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

I have just done the fractal and I am completely AMAZED that people are so hung up about Scarlet. She is so minor in the fractal!

But anyways, to Darc’s three questions:

1) The reactor explosion could have been prior to her sensory deprivation device. Also keep in mind that she “didn’t see what she thought she saw” and we were told that she was put in a sensory deprivation device. This means that she might not have actually seen the Eternal Alchemy and thus wouldn’t know everything.
2) Her dialogue implies that she at least didn’t do anything to stop it.
3) Nothing about her implies she can time travel. She was part of the Inquest, so it isn’t doubtful that she would be a special consultant while part of the Inquest.

I haven’t done the fractal so please be patient.
1.) It appears in the fractal that she is referred to as Scarlet, this can mean that either the explosion occurs after the short story, or it’s a variation due to the nature of fractals.
2.) I can’t disagree with your position here.
3.) To me, time travel is a possibility. I say this because time travel appears to be available in game which is demonstrated by the infinity ball story. Scarlet may know of the Infinity Ball due to comments made in the krait tower. Of course, those comments may have only been imagined.

so, one more question.

4.) what does Scarlet hope to gain from these ley lines? What is she looking for? How does the toxin fit?

Durzlla.6295:

ACTUALLY!! During the Asura Weather Ball personal story you find out that the inquest are actually willing to allow Sylvari to join, and help out, with their inquesty things, however these Sylvari do NOT have the authority of an actual Asura inquest member and they tend to go “missing” (obviously very expendable servants, just like scarlet was).

This is found out by talking with NPCs during 2-3 of the personal story missions two of which are sylvari, the other is an asura.

Huh, that was the one path I haven’t played. Good to know.

DarcShriek.5829:

3.) To me, time travel is a possibility. I say this because time travel appears to be available in game which is demonstrated by the infinity ball story. Scarlet may know of the Infinity Ball due to comments made in the krait tower. Of course, those comments may have only been imagined.

Yikes, I hope not (even though it was suggested she might have some relationship to the “old invention” phase of the Asuran personal story). The only thing that can kitten up a plot worse than Scarlet is time travel.

She’s targeting them directly now it seems judging from what’s appearing all over Tyria currently……

So I woke up this morning, and Miya told me that Scarlet was in the Thaumanova reactor. Haha, she really had me going there for a second.

-One minute later-

Whaaaaaaaaah, why Grenth why?! Konig you were right! I’m glad they didn’t touch Abaddon. You were right! You were…… right.

-Cries herself to sleep-

Durzlla.6295:

Unless Kiel is in league with scarlet (unlikely).

Careful saying things like that, Durzilla. There may be rabid Evon supporters listening.

DarcShriek.5829:

I haven’t done the fractal so please be patient.
1.) It appears in the fractal that she is referred to as Scarlet, this can mean that either the explosion occurs after the short story, or it’s a variation due to the nature of fractals.
2.) I can’t disagree with your position here.
3.) To me, time travel is a possibility. I say this because time travel appears to be available in game which is demonstrated by the infinity ball story. Scarlet may know of the Infinity Ball due to comments made in the krait tower. Of course, those comments may have only been imagined.

so, one more question.

4.) what does Scarlet hope to gain from these ley lines? What is she looking for? How does the toxin fit?

1) She’s called Scarlet Briar in the fractal, but honestly that’s not saying too much.
3) She comments on every chapter 2 personal storyline… storyline. So that’s likely part of what Marjory and Kasmeer talk about in one of the instances – that she’s somehow manipulating the hallucinations to prone into your thoughts exclusively. That is to say, those lines are hallucinatory. Her statement about the Infinity Ball holds no ground in actually knowing about it. There is still zero evidence or support for Scarlet being a time traveler.
4) Who says she intends to gain anything from the ley lines? She just mentioned that the failed experiment showed that they exist. Meaning that they’re a recent discovery that may not even be known to most.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

DarcShriek.5829:

I haven’t done the fractal so please be patient.
1.) It appears in the fractal that she is referred to as Scarlet, this can mean that either the explosion occurs after the short story, or it’s a variation due to the nature of fractals.
2.) I can’t disagree with your position here.
3.) To me, time travel is a possibility. I say this because time travel appears to be available in game which is demonstrated by the infinity ball story. Scarlet may know of the Infinity Ball due to comments made in the krait tower. Of course, those comments may have only been imagined.

so, one more question.

4.) what does Scarlet hope to gain from these ley lines? What is she looking for? How does the toxin fit?

1) She’s called Scarlet Briar in the fractal, but honestly that’s not saying too much.
3) She comments on every chapter 2 personal storyline… storyline. So that’s likely part of what Marjory and Kasmeer talk about in one of the instances – that she’s somehow manipulating the hallucinations to prone into your thoughts exclusively. That is to say, those lines are hallucinatory. Her statement about the Infinity Ball holds no ground in actually knowing about it. There is still zero evidence or support for Scarlet being a time traveler.
4) Who says she intends to gain anything from the ley lines? She just mentioned that the failed experiment showed that they exist. Meaning that they’re a recent discovery that may not even be known to most.

Ley lines are not a recent discovery. If Scarlet was at the explosion, then she’s known of them for a while now and here activities with the Molten alliance and the sky pirates could have been for the purpose of developing the tech needed to exploit the ley lines. This could explain the towers that have suddenly sprung up.

DarcShriek.5829:

Konig Des Todes.2086:

DarcShriek.5829:

I haven’t done the fractal so please be patient.
1.) It appears in the fractal that she is referred to as Scarlet, this can mean that either the explosion occurs after the short story, or it’s a variation due to the nature of fractals.
2.) I can’t disagree with your position here.
3.) To me, time travel is a possibility. I say this because time travel appears to be available in game which is demonstrated by the infinity ball story. Scarlet may know of the Infinity Ball due to comments made in the krait tower. Of course, those comments may have only been imagined.

so, one more question.

4.) what does Scarlet hope to gain from these ley lines? What is she looking for? How does the toxin fit?

1) She’s called Scarlet Briar in the fractal, but honestly that’s not saying too much.
3) She comments on every chapter 2 personal storyline… storyline. So that’s likely part of what Marjory and Kasmeer talk about in one of the instances – that she’s somehow manipulating the hallucinations to prone into your thoughts exclusively. That is to say, those lines are hallucinatory. Her statement about the Infinity Ball holds no ground in actually knowing about it. There is still zero evidence or support for Scarlet being a time traveler.
4) Who says she intends to gain anything from the ley lines? She just mentioned that the failed experiment showed that they exist. Meaning that they’re a recent discovery that may not even be known to most.

Ley lines are not a recent discovery. If Scarlet was at the explosion, then she’s known of them for a while now and here activities with the Molten alliance and the sky pirates could have been for the purpose of developing the tech needed to exploit the ley lines. This could explain the towers that have suddenly sprung up.

No… they’re recent… the Thamunova explosion happened very very very close to when the personal story for Asura begins, and seeing as how the personal story is supposed to last ~1-2 years, and at most we’ve had another year since then.

For the purposes of Science and development 3 years is, in every way, recent.

“I have just done the fractal and I am completely AMAZED that people are so hung up about Scarlet. She is so minor in the fractal!”

And for that one minute she is a classic bad villain. Taunts the players, again. Tells them the plot for no reason, again. Runs off, again. A bad sign for any drama is the characters telling the plot instead of the viewers seeing the plot unfold.

Stooperdale.3560:

“I have just done the fractal and I am completely AMAZED that people are so hung up about Scarlet. She is so minor in the fractal!”

And for that one minute she is a classic bad villain. Taunts the players, again. Tells them the plot for no reason, again. Runs off, again. A bad sign for any drama is the characters telling the plot instead of the viewers seeing the plot unfold.

She wasn’t telling us the plot, if you didn’t notice, we were inquest saboteurs, we were there to gather data from the reactor so the inquest could fix the mistakes for their next one (CoE), Scarlet, at that point in time, was a member of the inquest, she was telling us, fellow inquest members, what was going on…

Granted, we were in a fractal so whether that’s how everything happened or not is up to debate since they don’t tell the EXACT past.

DarcShriek.5829:

Ley lines are not a recent discovery. If Scarlet was at the explosion, then she’s known of them for a while now and here activities with the Molten alliance and the sky pirates could have been for the purpose of developing the tech needed to exploit the ley lines. This could explain the towers that have suddenly sprung up.

The Thaumanova explosion is recent. Ley lines were discovered just before said explosion.

Ergo, the discovery of ley lines is recent. Less recent for Scarlet (and possibly the Inquest) but still recent.

Durzlla.6295:

No… they’re recent… the Thamunova explosion happened very very very close to when the personal story for Asura begins, and seeing as how the personal story is supposed to last ~1-2 years, and at most we’ve had another year since then.

For the purposes of Science and development 3 years is, in every way, recent.

The whole of the personal story takes place within 1325. The timeline begins in 1325 and Zhaitan’s defeat is prior to the Lost Shores which is during 1325 as the following year (the LS of 2013) follows the events of 1326 AE. And we know that Forging the Pact to The Source of Orr is just “several weeks.” Just to clarify.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

DarcShriek.5829:

Ley lines are not a recent discovery. If Scarlet was at the explosion, then she’s known of them for a while now and here activities with the Molten alliance and the sky pirates could have been for the purpose of developing the tech needed to exploit the ley lines. This could explain the towers that have suddenly sprung up.

The Thaumanova explosion is recent. Ley lines were discovered just before said explosion.

Ergo, the discovery of ley lines is recent. Less recent for Scarlet (and possibly the Inquest) but still recent.

Durzlla.6295:

No… they’re recent… the Thamunova explosion happened very very very close to when the personal story for Asura begins, and seeing as how the personal story is supposed to last ~1-2 years, and at most we’ve had another year since then.

For the purposes of Science and development 3 years is, in every way, recent.

The whole of the personal story takes place within 1325. The timeline begins in 1325 and Zhaitan’s defeat is prior to the Lost Shores which is during 1325 as the following year (the LS of 2013) follows the events of 1326 AE. And we know that Forging the Pact to The Source of Orr is just “several weeks.” Just to clarify.

So essentially they’ve known about leylines for even less time than i had thought, so i don’t think there’s going to be anything coming from scarlet involving leylines anytime soon, inquest… maybe, they aren’t bound by morals or ethics and can make huge leaps and bounds because of it, scarlet probably isn’t either, but she hardly has the man power for that sort of progress…

Durzlla.6295:

Konig Des Todes.2086:

DarcShriek.5829:

Ley lines are not a recent discovery. If Scarlet was at the explosion, then she’s known of them for a while now and here activities with the Molten alliance and the sky pirates could have been for the purpose of developing the tech needed to exploit the ley lines. This could explain the towers that have suddenly sprung up.

The Thaumanova explosion is recent. Ley lines were discovered just before said explosion.

Ergo, the discovery of ley lines is recent. Less recent for Scarlet (and possibly the Inquest) but still recent.

Durzlla.6295:

No… they’re recent… the Thamunova explosion happened very very very close to when the personal story for Asura begins, and seeing as how the personal story is supposed to last ~1-2 years, and at most we’ve had another year since then.

For the purposes of Science and development 3 years is, in every way, recent.

The whole of the personal story takes place within 1325. The timeline begins in 1325 and Zhaitan’s defeat is prior to the Lost Shores which is during 1325 as the following year (the LS of 2013) follows the events of 1326 AE. And we know that Forging the Pact to The Source of Orr is just “several weeks.” Just to clarify.

So essentially they’ve known about leylines for even less time than i had thought, so i don’t think there’s going to be anything coming from scarlet involving leylines anytime soon, inquest… maybe, they aren’t bound by morals or ethics and can make huge leaps and bounds because of it, scarlet probably isn’t either, but she hardly has the man power for that sort of progress…

Scarlet’s aetherblades give her all the man power she needs to set up towers that can act as either storage devices or amplifiers along the ley lines. I think a lot of people forget that Scarlet was not a member of the Inquest at the time of the explosion. She had been kicked out of the Inquest because she was caught cheating for the Snaff Prize.

In either 2 weeks or when the antitoxin is complete it is my belief that the towers will be revealed as Scarlet’s and they are on the ley lines.

DarcShriek.5829:

Durzlla.6295:

Konig Des Todes.2086:

DarcShriek.5829:

Ley lines are not a recent discovery. If Scarlet was at the explosion, then she’s known of them for a while now and here activities with the Molten alliance and the sky pirates could have been for the purpose of developing the tech needed to exploit the ley lines. This could explain the towers that have suddenly sprung up.

The Thaumanova explosion is recent. Ley lines were discovered just before said explosion.

Ergo, the discovery of ley lines is recent. Less recent for Scarlet (and possibly the Inquest) but still recent.

Durzlla.6295:

No… they’re recent… the Thamunova explosion happened very very very close to when the personal story for Asura begins, and seeing as how the personal story is supposed to last ~1-2 years, and at most we’ve had another year since then.

For the purposes of Science and development 3 years is, in every way, recent.

The whole of the personal story takes place within 1325. The timeline begins in 1325 and Zhaitan’s defeat is prior to the Lost Shores which is during 1325 as the following year (the LS of 2013) follows the events of 1326 AE. And we know that Forging the Pact to The Source of Orr is just “several weeks.” Just to clarify.

So essentially they’ve known about leylines for even less time than i had thought, so i don’t think there’s going to be anything coming from scarlet involving leylines anytime soon, inquest… maybe, they aren’t bound by morals or ethics and can make huge leaps and bounds because of it, scarlet probably isn’t either, but she hardly has the man power for that sort of progress…

Scarlet’s aetherblades give her all the man power she needs to set up towers that can act as either storage devices or amplifiers along the ley lines. I think a lot of people forget that Scarlet was not a member of the Inquest at the time of the explosion. She had been kicked out of the Inquest because she was caught cheating for the Snaff Prize.

In either 2 weeks or when the antitoxin is complete it is my belief that the towers will be revealed as Scarlet’s and they are on the ley lines.

Uh…. she would’ve been a member of the inquest at the point of the reactor blowing up, it blew up a good amount of time before the Snaff Prize competition was going off, and her aetherblades are hardly the scientific geniuses that the Inquest are, and seeing as how the inquest gave Scarlet the boot instead of holding onto her, she clearly wasn’t very valuable to have in their possession, so her knowledge alone wouldn’t be enough to make it go forward.

Don’t even give the whole “Oh inquest work with the aetherblades!” nonsense, that is hardly an alliance and more of a business agreement, the inquest don’t risk their necks for Scarlet, let alone fight by the aetherblades. At most they’re supplying the aetherblades with their tech in exchange for payment. Sure they fought in the AR, but that’s because we kinda stormed their lab…

Durzlla.6295:

DarcShriek.5829:

Durzlla.6295:

Konig Des Todes.2086:

DarcShriek.5829:

Ley lines are not a recent discovery. If Scarlet was at the explosion, then she’s known of them for a while now and here activities with the Molten alliance and the sky pirates could have been for the purpose of developing the tech needed to exploit the ley lines. This could explain the towers that have suddenly sprung up.

The Thaumanova explosion is recent. Ley lines were discovered just before said explosion.

Ergo, the discovery of ley lines is recent. Less recent for Scarlet (and possibly the Inquest) but still recent.

Durzlla.6295:

No… they’re recent… the Thamunova explosion happened very very very close to when the personal story for Asura begins, and seeing as how the personal story is supposed to last ~1-2 years, and at most we’ve had another year since then.

For the purposes of Science and development 3 years is, in every way, recent.

The whole of the personal story takes place within 1325. The timeline begins in 1325 and Zhaitan’s defeat is prior to the Lost Shores which is during 1325 as the following year (the LS of 2013) follows the events of 1326 AE. And we know that Forging the Pact to The Source of Orr is just “several weeks.” Just to clarify.

So essentially they’ve known about leylines for even less time than i had thought, so i don’t think there’s going to be anything coming from scarlet involving leylines anytime soon, inquest… maybe, they aren’t bound by morals or ethics and can make huge leaps and bounds because of it, scarlet probably isn’t either, but she hardly has the man power for that sort of progress…

Scarlet’s aetherblades give her all the man power she needs to set up towers that can act as either storage devices or amplifiers along the ley lines. I think a lot of people forget that Scarlet was not a member of the Inquest at the time of the explosion. She had been kicked out of the Inquest because she was caught cheating for the Snaff Prize.

In either 2 weeks or when the antitoxin is complete it is my belief that the towers will be revealed as Scarlet’s and they are on the ley lines.

Uh…. she would’ve been a member of the inquest at the point of the reactor blowing up, it blew up a good amount of time before the Snaff Prize competition was going off, and her aetherblades are hardly the scientific geniuses that the Inquest are, and seeing as how the inquest gave Scarlet the boot instead of holding onto her, she clearly wasn’t very valuable to have in their possession, so her knowledge alone wouldn’t be enough to make it go forward.

Don’t even give the whole “Oh inquest work with the aetherblades!” nonsense, that is hardly an alliance and more of a business agreement, the inquest don’t risk their necks for Scarlet, let alone fight by the aetherblades. At most they’re supplying the aetherblades with their tech in exchange for payment. Sure they fought in the AR, but that’s because we kinda stormed their lab…

Let me make sure I understand what you’re saying. Your claim is that Ceara was a member of the Inquest when the explosion occurred, but wasn’t kicked out of the Inquest until she got caught cheating for the Snaff prize. Is that correct? I find it hard to believe that the Inquest would keep her as a member after the explosion, only to kick her out for cheating on the Snaff prize. It just seems like a weird sense of priorities. Also, do you realize that the Snaff prize is an annual competition?

Now, I suggest you go back and reread the story “What Scarlet Saw”. At that point you will realize that when Scarlet was a member of the Inquest, her name was Ceara, not Scarlet. It is Scarlet, not Ceara, that is in the fractal.

Aetherblades don’t need to be scientific geniuses, any more than brick layers need to be architects. Scarlet draws up the plans, the aetherblades and molten alliance build the towers. The inquest isn’t needed to build the towers.

My position remains the same, the towers belong to Scarlet and they are connected to the ley lines.

Ceara wasn’t kicked from the Inquest, technically speaking. She got kicked out of Rata Sum by the Peacemakers.

Should be noted that she wasn’t called Scarlet Briar until after the experiment with Omadd, meaning that her presence in Thaumanova would be post-being kicked out of Rata Sum.

Nonetheless, she could have remained a member of the Inquest after having been framed by Teyo and kicked out of Rata Sum. Which would be supported by the presence of the Inquest in Aetherblade Retreat.

From what we know of the Inquest
- they won’t care what damage they do if it advances their scientific research
- they will work with any disreputable, loony, scientist who can provide results
- they have enough political power in Rata Sum to get away with murder

I see no problem with the Inquest working with Scarlet before or after the reactor explosion.

Rangersix.1754:

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Scarlet blew up the reactor

Dear Anet, abandon Scarlet please. She’s not only poorly written and a marysue, but she’s also increasingly annoying. Do away with her and retcon her out of GW2. You are seriously writing a bad character that’s heavily compromising the integrity of your lore.

-signed, ditto, agree, yes & whatever else is applicable..