Scarlet and Canach's toxins

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Posted by: Zomaarwat.3912

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This may have been thought of before, but I haven’t seen anyone discussing it yet. I read something about the Consortium being in Kessex Hills now, and Southsun came to mind, which made me remember that Canach had been using some kind of plant toxins to mess with the wildlife on the island. Now Scarlet starts using plant toxins for similar purposes, but on a grander scale. Could they be working together, or is Scarlet at least basing some of her work on Canach’s? Or is it simply a coincidence, and are they just fond of plants because they are Sylvari?

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Posted by: Eluveitie.1290

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I highly doubt they are working together. While Scarlet is a villian, Canach is a self-proclaimed hero and not evil per se.

But one might have had influence upon the other in some way. Maybe Scarlet based her toxins on Canach’s, or maybe Canach “found” the toxins when in reality Scarlet was behind it to test them out.

Southsun still has some open plots to expand on.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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Theories about the ties between the Fervid Censer and the Tower of Nightmares have been made. My personal theory is that they’re both tied to Mordremoth, as they seem to both have similar effects (they induce hostility, though only known how for the latter – via hallucinations). Furthermore, as I noticed a few days ago the Fervid Censer glowed red near the top of the Tower of Nightmares, rather than its usual pale yellow. An interesting phenomina nonetheless.

I do not think there’s any ties between Canach and Scarlet or at least no ties between Canach and the Tower of Nightmares. As Eluveitie said, Canach sees himself as a tragic hero of sorts, though he’s certainly misguided in his attempts to “help the helpless”; similarly, Scarlet seems to be very touchy about people who thwart her, based on her “Stupid humans, always getting in my way.” note from the latest update as well as her leaving rants during Queen’s Jubilee – and it should be noted that Canach helped clear out Molten Facilities (hence his gloves).

Now, whether or not Scarlet took the Fervid Censer and its pollen after Canach was imprisoned (which as far as we know he still is), that’s far more likely.

But I do not think that the pollen is of the same exact source – too many differences:

  • Fervid Censor was yellow/light-green and its effects were permanent and directly makes creatures hostility (though this can be due to hallucinating threats). It also created fungus-like plants around Southsun.
  • On the flip side, the Tower of Nightmares is more blue, specifically induced hallucinations, and was said to be made by a mixture of krait and Nightmare Court magic. The appearance was vastly different too, being more flower-like than the Fervid Censer’s effects.

Makes me think they’re of similar origins, specifically Mordremoth (I base this on nothing solid), but that the Tower of Nightmare is a “twisted” form of it – altered by Krait magic and whatever seed it was that Scarlet gave the krait to plant and protect (per Penelopee).

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

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What I found much more interesting was what Kasmeer and Marjory said about the Tower during the final story instance. They were implying that the plant was intelligent, possibly even sentient. That got me thinking… Where did the Seed for the Tower come from? Could it possibly have been the same species as the Pale Tree, only corrupted by Scarlet’s experiments? (Or alternatively, it even represented a “pure” form of the species, whereas the Pale Tree is a mutant due to having grown up away from the influence of the rest of its kind.)

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Posted by: Jaken.6801

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Now i won`t say that Canachs poison will play a role in Scarlet`s sheme, but i think he himself might play a role later on.

While it was Majory who made the anti-toxin, for a bigger more complex poison a specialist would be more logical.

As far as we know, Canach is such a specialist. A biology expert, who can identify, use and alter planlife to his advantage, as he has done with southsun cove.

Since he was brought back and then imprissioned, i always had the feeling that we will see him coming back.
He had good intentions in a weird twisted way, however Kiels method was more subtle (even if explosive).

So he can still be an asset. He is more or less an anti-hero (wannabe?) and would be an interesting fit.

The first idea for it came about, as people were talking about “Destinys Edge 2.0” and were looking for clues at how to accomplish that.

Looking at it from a narrative point we have Rox and Braham on the front lines. Majory and Kashmeer backing up.
Kiel who is back in LA, playing a guiding “mentor” role.

So thre is access to Canach, if they would need his expertise.

I would not call out any specific Asura here, to create the full race representation, because let`s face it: Asura so far have been nothing more then the scientific mumbo jumbo exposition person of the patch. Almost every patch, if it is no successor had a new one.

(which is quite sad, i like Asura and would like a more prominent one)

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Posted by: ande.2105

ande.2105

Ok, well here’s my shot at a bit of wild speculation. The seed Scarlet gave to the Krait to grow, could this possibly be a Pale Tree (or variant of) seed, as there were said to be more IIRC. Could Scarlet have been trying to grow it, combining it with her poisons that cause hallucinations (could hallucinations be how she manipulated the other alliances to work together?) to make a fully fledged tree of her own, to which she could be/control the dream, training from birth an army of ‘Sylvari’. The benefits of which would be A) With her being of the same race they will feel an instant affection/alliance with her therefore follow her unquestioningly. B ) Sylvari, being inherently uncorruptable, would make a great base for an army.
All a long shot I know, but wild speculation is fun if nothing else :-D

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Posted by: Stooperdale.3560

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The Nightmare Tower pods were similar to the Pale Tree pods but this may just be what sylvari biotechnology looks like. They may be most similar to the torture/nightmare pods that held prisoners in TA story.