Guild Wars 2

They have 6 eyes, kinda reminds me of Abaddon from GW1, are they part of Abaddon’s army? Is there any background information on Shades in GW2?

Nope, they are creatures from the Underworld, domain of Grenth. nothing to do with Abaddon.

Dhuum, actually, if I recall.

BunnytheSwordsman.4173:

Dhuum, actually, if I recall.

Grenth is the current lord of the Underworld.

Gandarel.5091:

Grenth is the current lord of the Underworld.

It was however Dhuums forces we battled while in the Underworld.

lordkrall.7241:

Gandarel.5091:

Grenth is the current lord of the Underworld.

It was however Dhuums forces we battled while in the Underworld.

Yip this was correct. However, we don’t know what is going on the UW or any of the god-domains at this moment. The shades wheren’t around in GW1, and the eyes do remind me bout Abaddon. This doesn’t mean.

To many unknown factor’s. There might be a connection, but there is nothing to back that up.

lordkrall.7241:

Gandarel.5091:

Grenth is the current lord of the Underworld.

It was however Dhuums forces we battled while in the Underworld.

But we have absolutely 0 indication this is still going on.

Shades are just the current model for shapeless spirits, it seems to me. Nothing to do with Abaddon – there was plenty of things with six eyes that had nothing to do with Abaddon (directly, at least) in GW1.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

But we have absolutely 0 indication this is still going on.

Shades are just the current model for shapeless spirits, it seems to me. Nothing to do with Abaddon – there was plenty of things with six eyes that had nothing to do with Abaddon (directly, at least) in GW1.

Of course not. Nor did I imply it did.
I simply stated that the one saying “Grenth is the lord of the Underworld” made no real sense since the enemies faced in the Underworld were Dhuum’s not Grenths.

Not true at all. Aatxes were natural inhabitants of the Underworld, not forces of Dhuum – same with the Bone Pit creatures. Some Aatxes did get “tamed” (so to speak), but that’s all. The Underworld has a lot of naturally occurring hostile creatures.

So there was Dhuum’s army, and then there was “natural inhabitants of the Underworld” army – the latter likely made up most non-quest foes (if not all).

I think shades are redesign of these http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dying_Nightmare
and name change maybe because of nightmare court.

Mara.6782:

I think shades are redesign of these http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dying_Nightmare
and name change maybe because of nightmare court.

Even less connetion to the nightmare cout than to Abaddon.. if it’s even kitten oble.

I mean if nightmare name was changed to shade so people dont think nightmares are part of nightmare court.

Mara.6782:

I mean if nightmare name was changed to shade so people dont think nightmares are part of nightmare court.

Shades are coming from portals to the kittening Underworld. The Underworld underworld. Nothing. To. Do. With. The Nighatmare court.

Gandarel.5091:

Shades are coming from portals to the kittening Underworld. The Underworld underworld. Nothing. To. Do. With. The Nighatmare court.

And he is not saying it has something to do with the nightmare court.
What is he says is that it might have changed name in order for people to not think they have something to do with each other.

Mara.6782:

I think shades are redesign of these http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dying_Nightmare
and name change maybe because of nightmare court.

The physical difference is too large. But lore-wise, they’re of the same “species” or whathaveyou.

Nightmares in GW1 where effectively evil spirits. These included the ones you mentioned, and its copies found in Kryta, Southern Shiverpeaks, Maguuma, and Ring of Fire; the Azures, Vaettirs, Aatxes, Coldfire Nights, etc. Shades seem to be the same thing that the Aatxes are – which in turn is also what the Shadow Behemoth are.

But they wouldn’t be the “new version” of a specific kind of Nightmare. They’re just a new kind of Nightmare.

Besides, if they wanted to include the Fog Nightmares, they could have taken a Skelk and given it Death Shroud or Spectral Armor effects – that way, it’d look nearly identical as the GW1 version… And TBH, I wish they did that, cuz I loved those Fog Nightmares.