Guild Wars 2

Fist of all review this video from youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWtFf7UbtAQ

one can see there are many strong arguments for the pale tree to be a dragon. She or it, shows traits in which it could be a dragon. Or it could be an immune system against the dragons. this would explain how the slyvari are immune to the corruption of dragons. But then, on the other hand, there is dragons minions that are already corrupt so they cannot be corrupt again.

We know of 5 dragons. But there is a 6th one. Mordremoth. There are examples of CoE, a skill called Teeth of Mordremoth. And of a game creator answering a question and “slipping” using the name of the dragon, Mordremoth. (sorry i dont have a source for that.)

My question to you is: What and who are the Slyvari? Are there any other examples of them in previous history? And do you think Slyvari are created to be good, or to be evil (Nightmare court).

Healthy tip, do some background looking around before saying anything helps to avoid this same topic coming up over 10 times. Now the pale tree isn’t an elder dragon because of 2 reasons. 1. It’s less then 300 years old being planted during guild wars 1. 2. There are other pale trees and the sylvari’s default nature isn’t evil so much a chaotic good(not being purely good but having morals even without the dream given the sylvari we meet who is from the other pale tree.)

Pavees.7281:

Healthy tip, do some background looking around before saying anything helps to avoid this same topic coming up over 10 times. Now the pale tree isn’t an elder dragon because of 2 reasons. 1. It’s less then 300 years old being planted during guild wars 1. 2. There are other pale trees and the sylvari’s default nature isn’t evil so much a chaotic good(not being purely good but having morals even without the dream given the sylvari we meet who is from the other pale tree.)

I tired to look up multiple things, im just getting into the lore part of the game. so you can say that i am a “noob” at lore.

My question to you is, what makes them immune to the dragons corruption?

No one knows, but dragon minions themselves aren’t immune to the corruption of another elder dragon, as is seen in Subject Alpha in the Crucible of Eternity dungeon. This makes the Sylvari different from anything, dragon minion or not, with the exception of possibly the Forgotten. The forgotten had magic which could cleanse dragon corruption. It doesn’t make any sense that the Pale Tree would have any connection to the Elder Dragons, except perhaps to be a force to fight against them. Many believe that the Pale tree and sylvari are Tyria’s own “immune system” response to the constant ravagings of the Elder Dragons.

Also I’d like to point out that they aren’t technically speaking immune to dragon corruption.

Though they cannot be turned into Risen, they can be killed by Dragon Corruption akin to a poison. This is seen as a physical effect by those Sylvari living in the Lynchcroft Mere in Kessex Hill. So ‘immune’ is a bit of a subjective term in this case.

Zero.8712:

I tired to look up multiple things, im just getting into the lore part of the game. so you can say that i am a “noob” at lore.

My question to you is, what makes them immune to the dragons corruption?

Newb* A newb is short for newbie, slang for a new person to a field; a noob is a vet who just doesn’t learn and acts like a newbie. Personal nitpickery on the terms.

We don’t know why sylvari are immune, however it should be noted that more than just sylvari are immune: Forgotten magic is immune to dragon corruption too. I suspect that the immunity for sylvari comes from the Dream of Dreams – which I in turn believe to be part of the Mists, which I suspect is why the forgotten’s magic was immune. It’s the only similarity we know between the two groups, should the Dream of Dreams indeed be related to/part of the Mists.

Ratphink.4751:

Also I’d like to point out that they aren’t technically speaking immune to dragon corruption.

Though they cannot be turned into Risen, they can be killed by Dragon Corruption akin to a poison. This is seen as a physical effect by those Sylvari living in the Lynchcroft Mere in Kessex Hill. So ‘immune’ is a bit of a subjective term in this case.

Not just Risen, but all dragon minions. Instead of being corrupted, they die. Same thing with Forgotten magic – it can be destroyed by the dragons, but not corrupted.

When we say “immune” we mean “immune to becoming corrupted.”

Newb* sorry ^-^

Like i said ive been trying to catch up in the lore. from what i have read the forgotten are the oldest race in tyria right? and i remember something about the unseen having great magical powers. are these two related? (im trying to get the magical powers straight)

maybe the unseen (mursaat) were related to the slyvari due to the fact that the temple of the unseen is the slyvari starting area.

im just throwing ideas out there.

Do not trust WP’s video’s and rest asure the most mature lore-specialists (wich im not) do not believe the pale tree is an ED.

WP mixes true lore with his own fantasy’s and constantly make the error to present it is 100% lore. If you like his video’s then go ahead and watch them, but do never expect that he is right. His video’s are mostly classified as fan made fantasy’s that finds it’s origin in the world of GW2. But looking at the game as made by arenanet he is plain wrong!.

Thank you for the tip, i will try to find better places to get lore!

You can see as the seed is being planted by Ventari ad Ronan whic later becomes the Pale Tree.

I don’t think a seed can be a dragon

Dunno we know there is a jungle dragon, the seeds come from the maguuma jungle, it’s possible they have something to do with a ED, but we don’t really know for sure.

Zero.8712:

from what i have read the forgotten are the oldest race in tyria right? and i remember something about the unseen having great magical powers. are these two related? (im trying to get the magical powers straight)

maybe the unseen (mursaat) were related to the slyvari due to the fact that the temple of the unseen is the slyvari starting area.

im just throwing ideas out there.

They’re one of the oldest known races. The Elder Dragons are the oldest known “race” (it’s not really sure if they’re a race though); the Giganticus Lupicus, mursaat, Seers, Forgotten, jotun, and dwarves are all said to have been around during the last Elder Dragon rise (the G-Lupe not surviving while the others did). The only relation between the mursaat and Forgotten is just that – and that the Forgotten are said to come from the Mists, brought by the Six Gods (but this has been called into question with GW2 lore about them being around during the last ED rise), while the mursaat fled from the Elder Dragons into the Mists.

The only relation the mursaat have to the sylvari is that the mursaat killed the village that the seed which became the Pale Tree was planted upon – you can see the Pale Tree with a few houses in GW1 event.

If you’re wanting to get into the lore, I suggest going through the GWW and GW2W’s lore articles. Though the latter is very incomplete still and on occasion outright wrong. Some suggested articles:

• http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Storyline – each campaign’s storyline article
• http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Lore – a fan-written summary of the main points of GW1’s background – from earliest records to War in Kryta content
• http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Category:History_of_Tyria – official gw1 background lore articles.
• http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Timeline – fan-compiled timeline of major events up until GW1’s story-year completion
• http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Category:Tales – official gw2 background lore articles.
• http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Timeline – fan-compiled timeline of major events after GW1.

wouw.5837:

Dunno we know there is a jungle dragon, the seeds come from the maguuma jungle, it’s possible they have something to do with a ED, but we don’t really know for sure.

If there’s any connection between sylvari and Mordremoth, it makes Mordremoth the most unique of all Elder Dragons – in that he has the only minions that are not corrupted from something else, but fully and solely self-producing, as well as the only minions immune to other dragons’ corruptions.

I find this extremely unlikely. Especially since there’s NOTHING draconic about the sylvari. And dragon minions are not only fanatically devout to their Elder Dragon, but more powerful ones gain draconic features.