He HATED Eir until Season 2, and all it took to get over all that hate which built up for 17-or-so years was… fighting alongside her once, and talking once. Yeah, that doesn’t happen in reality.
In fairness, I think fighting alongside someone even once would go a pretty long way for me repairing some bridges with people I hate. Now whether that’d work in a high fantasy game like this? I agree that it’s a little rushed.
Typically it’s used as a bonding moment across stories and settings.
Two opposing forces put into a situation where they MUST work together to overcome a shared, more powerful enemy, and from that they see similarities or better things of each other.
IIRC, Braham hated Eir more of the fact she was NEVER in his life, and was this legendary figure (I forget it part of it was her legend overshadowing him). It wouldn’t heal instantly, but actually interacting with each other against common enemies, doing norn things (aka, hunting said enemies) would start the process.
Why would she need to go home to heal?
She was only slightly wounded and was left starving. A good meal, a weapon, and one night’s sleep and she’d be up and ready to go. She’s a norn, after all.
Honestly, I picture her was being more wounded then “slightly”. You have A: the fighting on the Glory of Tyria. B: The FALL from the glory of tyria. and C: fighting the Mordrem before being captured. I don’t particularly see her coming out of that mostly unscathed.
Could have saved her, had her spend one mission or two recuperating, bringing her back to fight fully alongside us, to be killed later on against a powerful foe.
Honestly, I’d accept that mostly if we explicitly had healing magic mentioned (Like a GW1 monk style healer).
Imagine this: Eir and Faolain don’t die in that story instance but move on, joining the Pact Commander in the fight against Mordremoth (Faolain joining because kitten shackles and Mordremoth’s the greatest shackle). There’s tension there, as they find Caithe and she’s assaulted by one of the Mordrem Guard commanders (let’s go with the axe dude cuz he’s a bulldozer). Like currently in Prized Possessions the Pact Commander gets separated, and heads to Tarir; when rejoined, Caithe and Faolain “went ahead to scout and be alone” while the rest of the group heads to the Blighting Tree south of Tarir to rescue Logan and Zojja. After rescue, those two – being weak human and asura – are sent north to Tarir and we keep them safe while fighting, and killing (for the time being) the Mordrem Commander again. We then head east, and discover about Rata Novus. Cue Act 3:
Sounds okay from my view. Especially if it resolves the prisoner arc faster and spends more focus on the actual PACT which the PC is in charge of :P.
In Tangled Depths we run into Caithe and Faolain who have discovered Malyck’s tree. However it’s under assault. Distracted by argument while fighting (over the existence of Malyck’s tree being not-corrupted), Faolain is killed by the assault’s commander and her body taken away. After saving the tree the party splits – part go to Rata Novus, the rest track Trahearne southward, though Caithe leaves to track Faolain’s taker. After the Rata Novus fun-time where Rata Novan’s research point to Mordremoth’s greatest strength and cue Eir talking about the fight with Kralkatorrik and how Snaff battled the Elder Dragon leading to the revelation of Mordremoth’s potential weakness (much better than a dues ex machina that we got), we head south. In Dragon’s Stand we get our first instance showing the organization of the Pact camp with leaders from all our allies (Laranthir, Tizlak, Ibli, Ruka, Malyck), and we lead an in-instance push south but are assaulted by Mordrem Faolain, who overpowers the group and corners the Pact Commander, but Eir jumps in front of the way to save us, taking a hazardous blow from Faolain; seeing the rest of DE recooperating (or rather, Rytlock+Caithe+biconics), Faolain takes the injured Eir and flees. We give chase, we pin Faolain down at a Blighting Tower but she escapes and Eir is found dead. Next instance we go to track down Faolain and push deeper into enemy territory, leading us to the Heart of Thorns tree which allows a direct assault on Mordremoth.
Sounds okay as well, besides the fact Eir is injured, dragged off, and then we just “find her dead” That part makes me bleh as much as Eir dying instantly to the gut stab from the vine.
Would that not suffice Eir’s death properly? Would that not suffice Faolain’s death properly? Would that not reveal Mordremoth’s weakness properly?
If I was given the parameters of “Eir must die, Faolain must turn Mordrem, egg must go to Tarir, Logan/Zojja must be freed, Trahearne must be at Mordremoth’s domain, Rata Novus must be visited and tell of Elder Dragons’ weaknesses without giving it directly” then that’s how I would have done it. Greatly summarized, of course.
Honestly, my true issues with HoT is how we start it as leader of the Pact (because Trahearne is MIA), then promptly go “kitten ya’ll, I’m doing my own thing” Like we were able to do in living story, personal story, hell, even in gw1. Which we were able to do because there was somebody else over us (Like Nightfall and personal story. We are highly trusted and decently ranked in the group, but we aren’t LEADERS of the faction. somebody else handles that job). We take the mantle of leadership, bear it for a day, then promptly ditch it because “OMG CAITHE WENT THROUGH HERE? I MUST FIND THAT kitten RAGE!”. That’s how I felt it was with my human necromancer. She just dropped whatever kittening event or task was on hand when she heard “caithe went through here”.
TBH, I would’ve changed the ENTIRE Egg arc to begin with. Caithe is supposed to be one of the STEALTHIEST people around. Yet not only do some Pact scouts/members spot her without issue heading into the jungle, but also several itzel scouts as well. That just made me shake my head thinking about it because of how effortlessly she had been seen when we went through hell in living story season 2 trying to track her. I would have removed ALL references to her at all. Maybe have the commander mention it, and having the scouts of Itzel and Pact nature go “Sorry, the way things are right now, I wouldn’t be able to tell you if I saw a specific sylvari. They are either helping or wounded, or charging and fighting.” I’d have the trail pick up only with the Exalted, who detect the egg/glint’s magic(or legacy, whichever you want to use), and we tag along not to hunt down caithe as some filthy freaking traitor, but to make sure the egg (and Caithe, being a destiny’s edge member and possibly a great source of strength for Sylvari pact members due to her hero status) are okay and safe.
Hell, if Faolin dies and turns into Mordrem early, have the scouts mention seeing a powerful, weird mordrem stalking the jungle relentlessly, searching for something specific and ignoring everything else.
I would have also had the named Mordrem Guards (including the commanders) have names we recognize. After all, who is Aryn? Who is Diarmid? Who is Hareth? Who is Gwyllion? Who are Cadogg, Morthwyl, Anwir, and Macsen? We are given only 8 named Mordrem Guard (as far as I’ve seen at least) and not one of them is of an NPC we knew before.
Agreed. I was wondering if the commanders from Verdant brink showed up in dragon’s stand. I know there is the one in the Itzel village story instance (If you defend the place), but I don’t recall seeing him ever again. Does that weird oldman staff guy show up there?
diarmid is supposedly instantly recognizable to the Ordance Corps crew…
