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Posted by: genshuku.4892

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Q:

WHere in the lore or in game does it say that the Sylvari are immune to dragon corruption. I always just assumed it to be fact but where does it say it?

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Posted by: Infamous Darkness.3284

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A:

Tegwen: Because sylvari are immune to the curse of undeath, we’ve been given this dangerous mission. If we fail, we won’t rise again.

the dialogue from this section of story mission is good http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Marching_Orders

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Posted by: Andele.1306

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For being transformed into risen, im like 99% sure that right as you get out of the dream you get 3 quests/events (the arms from the ground, the spiral and the outpost where you escort the soundless) that plain state, sylvari that are mortally wounded cannot be revived as risen, they just die off (aka they are plants, not dead flesh/leave no corpse).

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

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Like Andele said, it’s referenced a handful of times in the sylvari starting zone and some of the starting quests, and for all characters in Orrian quest Infamous linked (if, of course, you choose that path). There were also a lot of pre-release materials, including the sylvari page on the main site, where ANet stated it.

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Posted by: Invictus.1503

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All of those examples show that they are immune to undeath, aka Zhaitan’s corruption. Although I don’t see Sylvari corrupted at all in game, is there any in game reference that they are immune to other dragons’ corruption?

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

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I can’t remember anything explicit in-game, but the old sylvari page on the official website, before it was dumbed down, said " While the other races may be corrupted by the Elder Dragons, turned into undead minions or crystalline creatures of the Brand, the sylvari are never turned. Those born of the Pale Tree simply die before the corruption takes hold. "

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Posted by: Kalarchis.8635

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I just want to note, this doesn’t mean that all Sylvari are immune to corruption. It just means that our Sylvari, ones of the Dream, are immune to it. We really don’t know when it comes to the rest of the species.

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

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I just want to note, this doesn’t mean that all Sylvari are immune to corruption. It just means that our Sylvari, ones of the Dream, are immune to it. We really don’t know when it comes to the rest of the species.

We don’t even know enough to say that other sylvari aren’t of the Dream.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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Tegwen: Because sylvari are immune to the curse of undeath, we’ve been given this dangerous mission. If we fail, we won’t rise again.

the dialogue from this section of story mission is good http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Marching_Orders

There is this, as well as how you never see a risen sylvari (despite the hundreds killed by them – the closest you get is undead grubs burrowing in sylvari corpses), and there was an interview (with Ree Soesbee iirc) – one long since lost, but for those wanting to search the bowels of the internet, it was released around Sylvari Week (which was, iirc, early August 2011) – which stated that sylvari are immune to all dragon corruption.

I can’t remember anything explicit in-game, but the old sylvari page on the official website, before it was dumbed down, said " While the other races may be corrupted by the Elder Dragons, turned into undead minions or crystalline creatures of the Brand, the sylvari are never turned. Those born of the Pale Tree simply die before the corruption takes hold. "

Hmm. Maybe I’ve been mistaking interview for that, which would explain why I haven’t been able to find such an interview.

-does some internet archive checking-

YES! That’s what I’ve been remembering! It is found again at long last! And once more kitten you Anet for dumbing down those pages!

https://web.archive.org/web/20110815225850/http://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/races/sylvari/

Each unborn sylvari hears the song of the Pale Tree and learns of the world, including what other sylvari have learned. Yet many dream of an enigmatic danger that threatens the awakened world. For most, it is but a fleeting glimpse. Only a rare few, the great heroes of their race, see the shadows of dragons and know it as a danger that threatens the world. As a result, of all the races, the sylvari see the challenge of the Elder Dragons most directly. The shores of their lands touch the Sea of Sorrows, and the undead minions of Zhaitan wash ashore and seek to despoil everything they find. While the other races may be corrupted by the Elder Dragons, turned into undead minions or crystalline creatures of the Brand, the sylvari are never turned. Those born of the Pale Tree simply die before the corruption takes hold. Many sylvari believe that this is because they were born to battle the dragons, blessed with a certain protection against their most horrible powers. Some non-sylvari scholars state instead that the sylvari’s strange biology foils the corruption of the dragons. A few clever souls state that sylvari just taste bad to dragons. No one knows for certain which is the truth.

Side note: this paragraph also explains the Shadow of the Dragon in the tutorial, somewhat.

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Posted by: Aethelbert.1497

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Side note: this paragraph also explains the Shadow of the Dragon in the tutorial, somewhat.

Or, rather, what Pale Tree wants to Sylvari think of it.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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I don’t see how an out-of-game description is “what the Pale Tree wants the sylvari to think”.

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Posted by: Andele.1306

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Btw all of the syvlari immunity can plain be attributed the the immunity of most other plant life to dragon minion conversion (one exception being the noxious crystals which grow into shrubbery, but they are summons not actual plant conversion so im not sure if it counts).

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Posted by: Narcemus.1348

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Much of the plant-life in the brand has been branded, this is very visible in some zones, although I cannot tell which. It has been a few months since I mapped anything in the brand. In the books, it even mentions crystal grass breaking under foot. So plant-life can be branded, just not sylvari…

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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Much? Try all of the plantlife in the Dragonbrand has been – even the small stuff that doesn’t look branded. From Ghosts of Ascalon, it states that the very blades of grass has been turned into glass-like crystal – as pointed out.

The Noxious Branded Plants aren’t “summoned” (that’s just a respawning mechanic), they’re actual plants which, while immobile, react to non-branded presence with hostility it seems; you can also see a large variety of branded trees.

Furthermore, Zhaitan’s corruption can influence plantlife, as seen throughout Orr (especially Desmina’s Hallows) and the Sparkfly Fen heart Help Ayomichi slow the spread of Risen corruption

-> You’ve seen corrupted wildlife?
Oh yes, and we’ve seen them change after eating the dead fish. They become ill. They spread the Orrian curse. They corrupt the plants as well.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ayomichi
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Corrupted_Stump

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Posted by: Shiren.9532

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I can’t remember anything explicit in-game, but the old sylvari page on the official website, before it was dumbed down, said " While the other races may be corrupted by the Elder Dragons, turned into undead minions or crystalline creatures of the Brand, the sylvari are never turned. Those born of the Pale Tree simply die before the corruption takes hold. "

Hmm. Maybe I’ve been mistaking interview for that, which would explain why I haven’t been able to find such an interview.

-does some internet archive checking-

YES! That’s what I’ve been remembering! It is found again at long last! And once more kitten you Anet for dumbing down those pages!

https://web.archive.org/web/20110815225850/http://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/races/sylvari/

Those born of the Pale Tree simply die before the corruption takes hold. Couldn’t that be interpreted to mean the sylvari can’t be corrupted, not because they are immune but because they are too weak? An immunity suggests they can withstand it and come through the other side. If a race never recovers from a cold and instead always dies when they get it, they aren’t immune to it, they are exceptionally vulnerable to it. I guess it’s a semantic issue?

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

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I can’t remember anything explicit in-game, but the old sylvari page on the official website, before it was dumbed down, said " While the other races may be corrupted by the Elder Dragons, turned into undead minions or crystalline creatures of the Brand, the sylvari are never turned. Those born of the Pale Tree simply die before the corruption takes hold. "

Hmm. Maybe I’ve been mistaking interview for that, which would explain why I haven’t been able to find such an interview.

-does some internet archive checking-

YES! That’s what I’ve been remembering! It is found again at long last! And once more kitten you Anet for dumbing down those pages!

https://web.archive.org/web/20110815225850/http://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/races/sylvari/

Those born of the Pale Tree simply die before the corruption takes hold. Couldn’t that be interpreted to mean the sylvari can’t be corrupted, not because they are immune but because they are too weak? An immunity suggests they can withstand it and come through the other side. If a race never recovers from a cold and instead always dies when they get it, they aren’t immune to it, they are exceptionally vulnerable to it. I guess it’s a semantic issue?

You might be right, but it really is semantics. In the case of dragon corruption, dying is preferable to surviving, so unlike with colds a fatal allergic reaction would be considered a good thing.

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Posted by: Shiren.9532

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True, they make the point that sylvari are useful in certain missions because they won’t turn if they are captured.

The other thing to keep in mind is the page quoted is from the website pre-launch. Can we reliably consider that information (I don’t have an issue with the stuff in-game) canon?

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

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True, they make the point that sylvari are useful in certain missions because they won’t turn if they are captured.

The other thing to keep in mind is the page quoted is from the website pre-launch. Can we reliably consider that information (I don’t have an issue with the stuff in-game) canon?

I believe so- there are a lot of fine details that we heard from in pre-launch articles that never made it into the game. The general approach to this kind of thing is a totem pole of canonicity (is that a word?), with word of dev at the top, then in-game information, then out of game official sources. As long as the information isn’t contradicted by a source higher up the pole, it’s considered canon.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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True, they make the point that sylvari are useful in certain missions because they won’t turn if they are captured.

The other thing to keep in mind is the page quoted is from the website pre-launch. Can we reliably consider that information (I don’t have an issue with the stuff in-game) canon?

We trust many interviews and blog posts that were pre-release, and even regularly source The Movement of the World and The Ecology of the Charr which were written in 2007.

It’s pretty much a case of “with out-of-game stuff, it’s canon until proven otherwise.” Some things in the Movement got moved about (dates mostly), thus that’s not canon of the Movement, but the rest is.

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